Topic: guys learn a little bit
verbatimeb's photo
Sat 07/14/07 07:09 PM
I agree with gardenforge.

"Once again, if you come here legally welcome to America, if you come here illegally get the hell out or be deported."

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It is very simple. Why complicate the ****ens out such a SIMPLE thing? I don't give a crap what country you (no specific YOU in mind)came from. THAT makes no difference. If you are in this country illegaly, you have already commited multiple crimes.

IF so many people leave their countries to live in the United States of America and leave their countries of origin behind they should be willing to at least take up SOME of the culture of their new CHOSEN home.

If people are looking for a new and better life here maybe they should be thinking of leaving the laws and some of the oppressive culture behind too.

The laws of other lands do not belong in the USA.
Likewise, some other cultures are not a good fit in the USA.

Easy Peasy.

Verb

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 07/14/07 07:48 PM
illegals or legals
there is a trend that is stronger

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 07/14/07 08:17 PM
I'm sorry, I have not had time to read everyone's responses. But I have been asked my opinion so I will post it. Forgive if I have repeated something someone has said.

Also this is a copy from another topic but I think it gets the message across.

America, Canada and Mexico, the North American Commitment that Bush has fielded and plans to push through, will create the Amero. The Amero to become the currency used by all three countries & who will control it, create it? Let there be no doubt it will be the Federal Reserve System.

And we wonder why all the Mexicans? And the snafu that was a 1500 page immigration document - was it meant to hinder? Was it meant to be extended, beyond the point that it is even valid? For what validity can be had from such a legislature if our borders and even our monetary system are open to and include Mexico and Canada?

We are being FORCED by this government to accept what is being planned - this borderless now country.

There are also other major countries considering the same thing with their bordering countries. The reduction of currently, or rather a broader standardization away from exchange rates, creates an environment more easily globalized. Enter the Euro Dollar. And who will control that? NO NOT THE FEDERAL RESERVE - it gets better.

There are currently plans underway for the creation of a 'Central World Bank'. Who is pushing for this - the Federal Reserve, who is backing it? Bush. In fact, backed by this government is committee created to outline the "regulations" for this World Bank and they plan on setting it up, by using the Federal Reserve as it's basis.

So who will own, run and have a vested interest in this world bank. All those who currently have same in the Fed, as well as those in other countries who, like Bush, have followed the path, that will lead to the creation of this World conglomeration.

A world wide class system. Those connected with the World Bank and those living life according to the whims of those in control of the money.

We need to take the money that is the power that controls, out of the hands of those who want more. There are none so powerful as those who, together, have a vested interest in the Federal Reserve System.

We need to break the Fed, and thereby, breaking all those stand to loose through such a fiasco. We need to prove to the world that a Central World Bank, in the hands of a few, can not be created.

We should be fighting for the discontinuance of the Federal Reserve System as it now stands.

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 07/14/07 08:18 PM
If you want to understand more about the Federal Reserve system, there is a post previous to the one I just copied here. It is under the heading "Dollars From Thin Air".

needagoodlaugh's photo
Sat 07/14/07 08:34 PM
I am sure that someone is going to get upset but please keep in mind that opinions have to be different or life would be boring. I teach at a Catholic school. The Mexican government just installed a whole computer lab for immigrants to finish their education and transition them to working in America. We have a large population of immigrants and not just from Mexico. These people are some of the most wonderful people I have ever encountered. Can you blame them for wanting to come here? They want better lives for themselves and their children. If they came here illegally, we need to get them legal. Those that are not legal live in fear of being found out. I just think that we should be thankful that we live in a place that people want to come to and be willing to share.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 07/14/07 08:37 PM
thats nice but they are illegal....amnesty was given once ..no more amnesty.

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Sat 07/14/07 08:42 PM
Legallity shouldn't have to cost so much!!! When I was married to an american....it would have cost me at least $1000 just to be able to work in america....then the immigration process....thousands upon thousands of dollars....all for lovegrumble grumble grumble Needless to say I kept my Canadian citizenship and decided it was futile for me to work there. I sometimes think that had a large part of my divorce....I was bored sitting at home doing nothing......****ing useless!!!grumble grumble

Legalize it but make it affordable.... then what would you guys all ***** about???:wink: laugh laugh laugh

needagoodlaugh's photo
Sat 07/14/07 08:46 PM
Good point, Gypsy. Whatever happened to"Bring me your poor..."?

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/14/07 08:52 PM
Please, not you too redy.
Ive been studying on the Fed Res, and it would take 10 years to get a handle on it. That's the reason experts do it, and believe me it is under the control of the US government. The power in the leadership is divided into so many groups, with the heads of each group only being allowed to serve one term, that what you just said would be nearly impossible. On top of that the President and congress can fire the man in charge at anytime of their choosing.
Ecuador, where TLW comes from just got in financial trouble a few years back, and adopted the US dollar as their official currency.
Why??
Because of its strength!!!
The whole EU was designed so that they could compete economically with the US.
Why????
Because of the strength of the US economy!
Ron Paul, Bless his heart, doesnt stand a fat rats chance in hell of being President. His proffession is a med. doctor, not a financial expert. The majority of financial experts all agree, The US Fed Reserve is very healthy and one of the strongest, if not the strongest in the World.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/14/07 08:56 PM
What do you not understand about the difference in Legal and Illegal Immigration?

Let me move this great mans words here so you wont miss them:

Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an American in 1907:

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But, this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag … and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is a loyalty to the American people.” – Theodore Roosevelt 1907

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 07/14/07 09:01 PM
miguel you are coming off as racist.not pretty.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 07/14/07 09:02 PM
I miss Teddy..drinker

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Sat 07/14/07 09:07 PM
cutelildevilsmom,

When you see TLW saying "La Raza", that's spanish for "The Race". Their desire to to change America, through mass immigration, into a latin country. It is racist, there is little desire by the South of the border immigrants to actually assimilate, they want the US to assimilate to them. TLW is a professed Christian who brags that he is in the US illegally.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/14/07 09:23 PM
laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
Miquel, your crazy dude!!!laugh laugh drinker drinker drinker

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 07/14/07 09:32 PM
Miguel are you pot stirring? :tongue:

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Sat 07/14/07 09:40 PM
He can stir the pot.......it has mexican chocolate in it!!!:wink:

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/14/07 09:48 PM
A history of immigration in the US:
Before 1855, immigration was controlled by the individual States. From 1855 to 1890 after the fed gov took it over, immigrants were processed legally into the US by New York State officials at Castle Garden Immigration Depot in Manhattan.
The immigrants you all talk about were legal, and so you will understand this, here is the truth!

The federal immigration station opened on January 1, 1892 and was closed in November 12, 1954, but not before 12 million immigrants, were inspected there by the US Bureau of Immigration (Immigration and Naturalization Service)(the estimates for immigrants processed there may have been as high as 20 million, but this is unsubstantiated). In the 35 years before Ellis Island opened, over 8 million immigrants had been processed locally by New York State officials at Castle Garden Immigration Depot in Manhattan. Many who were allowed entry settled in New York and northern New Jersey for at least their first few years in America, but left the area for inland and other coastal destinations in the USA and Canada. During the period 1910 to 1940, Angel Island (between Alcatraz and the Pacific Ocean in San Francisco Bay) was opened on the West Coast; there some 175,000 foreigners were inspected, mostly Chinese. Other immigration stations that were as prominent as San Francisco's (but much less active than Ellis Island) were located at New Orleans, Seattle, Boston, Philadelphia and Baltimore.


Entrance to the museum. Ellis Island was the first stop for most immigrants from Europe.Ellis Island was one of 30 processing stations opened by the federal government. It was the major processing station for third class/steerage immigrants entering the United States in 1892; it processed 70% of all immigrants at the time. Wealthy immigrants that traveled first class and second class would get automatic entry into the United States. First they had to pass a six second physical examination. Those with visible health problems or diseases were sent home or held in the island's hospital facilities for long periods of time. Next they were asked 29 questions including name, occupation, and the amount of money they carried with them. Generally those immigrants who were approved spent from three to five hours at Ellis Island. However more than three thousand would-be immigrants died on Ellis Island while being held in the hospital facilities. Some unskilled workers and immigrants were rejected outright because they were considered "likely to become a public charge." About 2 percent were denied admission to the U.S. and sent back to their countries of origin for reasons such as chronic contagious disease, criminal background, or insanity.[1]

Writer Louis Adamic came to America from Slovenia in southeastern Europe in 1913. Adamic described the night he spent on Ellis Island. He and many other immigrants slept on bunk beds in a huge hall. Lacking a warm blanket, the young man "shivered, sleepless, all night, listening to snores" and dreams "in perhaps a dozen different languages".

After 1924, with demands for further immigration restrictions, "The Quota Laws" would be passed and they would have a major impact on immigration. After they were passed Ellis Island was used only sporadically for immigration. It would be mostly used for detainees and refugees. Italians were detained, Japanese were interned, but the major group to be detained were German Americans during World War II falsely accused of being Nazis. The United States would begin processing immigrants in the embassies and consulates of the emigrant country.


Terry59's photo
Sat 07/14/07 09:52 PM
Hey LonelyWalker I have a question since you think you know so much . Hey are you ILLEGAL . Look If they come over here in the States ,more power to them. But I see plenty of pretty ladies here in the USA . But their is problem .Hey lot of ILLEGAL Aliens are on the date site, they say they live here in the USA . But they live in another country. So when you know them well on the site, then they want us to pay their way over . NO WAY. We have problems here in the USA . A bad President and on and on. That had to be a joke question you said,( it was funny )

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 07/14/07 09:52 PM
why am i a racist?
because i feel for my people then classify me as a racist.
because my heart is broken everytime u people call my homeboys criminals then classify me as a racist.
because i profess that there has to be a more human solution for the immigration issue than kicking these people out like dogs who is benefeting this country then please call me a racist.
because i point out things that u don't want to see because u feel threaten then call me a racist.
and for u, and i should not say this here because here is not the religion chat, but was not Christ consider a criminal and because of that He was crucified.
if are those ur reasons to classify me as a racist
people who know me and know how i really feel and why do i use sarcasm they understand me
if u don't see that u r not indispensable, but still u r my brother and sister and I love you even if you want me deported
i'm tireless as long as i see some seed of hate against my people my blood i'll be standing my position
when u learn a bit of humanity and just ur selfish interest, not thinking that the mexicans will take ur welfare abd social security benefits that day i'll rest.
Viva la Raza just for ur information means cheers for the race (hispanic) what we mean cheers for our people who fight hard, and make North America great in the fields, in the construction, restaurants, hotel, gardens, etc. It's not a racist statement.




Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/14/07 09:53 PM
Immigration was never free, nor were our borders open for people to just walk in.