God offers eternity, satan wishes to take that gift away. Defeating death isn't defeating God. Again, God offers eternal life, not death.



Wasn't the blood in exacts that appeased God. It was that someone was giving up something of importance to God in return of forgiveness.

It's not the blood Jesus shed for us that is important, it is the gift of him giving his life up, feeling the taste of death for you. Jesus never had to have tasted death if it wouldn't have been for our sins and his love for us. Again, it's not the "blood" in exacts, it's the giving up something important for another. Giving up something that one could not put a price on, something so great there's not enough money in the entire world to buy.

If one opens their heart to Jesus, Jesus will show himself to them.

Only in someones own imagination will that happen.

Again, religion has been allowed to mislead far too many people in the name of peace but it is only peace and love if you believe the way they do.

No, we love everyone. Doesn't matter if they share similar beliefs or don't. We love them the same. Love isn't "earned", it can not be. It is freely given.

For example, when you have kids. Does that child have to earn your love? No, you freely give the child your love. Love is freely given or it's not love.

You lie but I am not going into this again with you. It has been shown already that this love is a lie.

I know everyone likes having themselves referred to as children in comparison to you...lol

Yet you basically have to earn the Bible God love. Contradiction?

God loves everyone, weather they know it, or they don't. Weather they acknowledge it or not. Weather they believe it or not. Just because someone doesn't give you a gift, does that mean they don't love you? Eternal life is a GIFT, it is a reward for one's obedience to our lord. Or you gonna tell me, if a parent doesn't give their children gifts, they don't love them?

I lie not. I care for you just as I would care for a Christian or any other of similar beliefs. I wish no harm on you, I wish only the best for you and yours. If I knew you personally, I would do my very best to help you in times of need, ect. You need not to be a "Christian" to receive someone else's love for them. Love is not secluded to "relationships" neither. You can love someone without there being a "relationship" eg., relative, boyfriend, girlfriend ect. There's no limitations on whom you can give your love to, or whom you hold love for.

And in my statement about a child, that wasn't metaphorical or figuratively speaking. I mean, literlly when one has a child in this world, does that child have to "earn" the love from the parents? Obviously the parent isn't exactly "obligated" to loving that child. Parents put their child up for adoption, abandon their children, ect.

*Not saying just because a parent puts their child up for adoption they do not love that child. Just explaining the parent isn't exactly obligated to love that child if they do not wish to do so.*

It can't be a gift, and be a reward at the same time, we've been over this. A gift is given of pure love, not because of anything one does, otherwise it ceases to be that.

A gift is rewarding someone. A gift can not be "bought". A gift is a reward, rewarding the someone for something(s) they did and or just to express your feelings for them outside of words.

Loving other grown folks like children is not real healthy love.

So it still isn't love that you speak of. At least not the love others would consider love anyway.

And keep me out of it. It creeps me out to have strangers claim to love me especially this kind of "love".

lol you creep me out when speaking of a child not having to earn love from their parent compared with love one grown person may or may not have for another grown person lol.

The child was merely an example of how love doesn't necessarily have to be "earned". It is freely given if the giver wishes to give it. And obviously it's freely received as well. Even with my child example, there are children whom do not receive the love of their parents. They run off, they are always disobedient, ect.

Love in general is not "earned". Love is freely given. There is not a price on love. Love is the most worthy, most expensive thing out there, there's not enough money in this world that could buy you love.

I'm for real...let's get it on record...are you a Christian or not

allow me to explain why I've asked you that question ....it's to prove to you that you are in a religion and belong to a religious (cult) and therefore have been programmed to answer yes to the question because to answer no would be denouncing the works of Jesus

so come on Cowboy....are you a Christian yes or no ....please say "No"

Funches:

Are you a man or are you not?

I ask this question because if you answer yes you have been programed to answer this way by your gender. To answer no would be to denounce being a man.

I am an accountant. That is what I have trained to do and what I know. So, if I am asked to say either I am or not and if I say I am not I am denouncing the educational system is nonsense.

Those are different though, you can't help that you are a man, and you are an accountant, not much can change that. A spiritual belief can change however if you are open to new ideas, but your religion discourages that, and in effect binds you to it.

Actually being an accountant is very valid. I can change that but it isn't easy. I studied and learned to be an accountant just as I did for being a Christian. It is very relevant.

I am not brainwashed or bound to it any more than I am an accountant. It would actually be easier for me to change my religion than my profession. So which really is binding me?

Let's put it this way, you can't really unlearn what you learned to be an accountant, whether you're actively involved or not it will stay with you.

However you can unlearn and relearn other ideas about God if you are open to them. But again your religion discourages this on the threat of death and suffering if you ever go against it. That's how it binds you to it, whether you realize it or not. Because once you're in it, you have to defend it, or according to the belief system there is no hope for you after this life.

Um No,

I can no more unlearn my knowledge of Christianity than I can accounting.

I can learn new information but I cannot unknow what I have learned.

My belief in Christianity is based on my knowledge. I am not stuck in it as you imply. I am following it because I choose to. I know what God has done for me and I trust in what He will do for me.

I am not a Christian because I am afraid of being damned if I don't. You are essentially saying I am only a Christian because I am afraid not to be. I love Jesus and God and The Spirit and Love what They are doing for me. That is why I am a Christian.

The negative aspects you are referring to are all you are thinking of because you choose not to be Christian. Seems to me you feel guilty and want others to say you are doing the right thing and acknowledge Christians are mean. Can't do that for you. Sorry...

Kliesto... I think you are referring to people bound

up in just religion...not relationship with God.

And yes...people can just be brainwashed by religion.

Simply because they have brain or head knowledge only...

NOT heart knowledge yet.


Also...to ask a born again christian to give up being a chrsitian,

would be like asking someone to become unborn.


A christian is actually a new creature in christ now...his

spirit is brand new ....

and that cannot be undone..just like a child cannot become unborn,

once that child is born.


THAT is how a christian KNOWS he is born again...

he KNOWS he is not the same as before.


Also,God's Holy Spirit bears witness with his spirit, letting him

know without a shadow of doubt, that he is truly born again.




So Kliesto...again....I feel you are referring to those bound up

in religion (when religion binds one up, it is religiousity).


However,that does NOT mean that everyone involved in religion,

neccessarily gets "bound up" in just religiousity though....but

some do.


Christianity and religiousity are not the same.

On the outside , the 2 may sometime "appear" to be the same.



How to tell the difference?

God says you will know them by their FRUITS.