Cowboy, Please read what I write.

I did not categorize that "Catholics" are evil. Most catholics are just followers who don't know any better.


Who said I was judging scriptures or the belief by the Catholic Church's actions? I am judging the corrupt organization of the CHURCH who has lied to so many people and who pretends to be Godly and pretends to have authority over Christianity.

I judge the scripture on its own merit whether or not it is true or if it has any meaning to me.

If the Catholics actions were not in sync with the scriptures, then the entire organization is corrupt and is false religion. It should be dismantled.

So Cowboy, I have noticed that you assume stuff that I never wrote, you rewrite, in your mind, my statements and you misinterpret them a lot.

I am going to take a break from this "discussion" because I feel you are not listening at all, even when you respond to what I say, you get it all wrong.

jeanniebean, are you going to start catholic bashing now

Yes Elohim is plural but way more than that.

Elohim is also meant for Judge. Who is the Righteous Judge?

Yahweh who is has given this power to Yahshua. and he even said he had the right to with the woman they wanted stoned but he did not.

Way more to why he wrote on the ground in that story also.

He refered to the Psalms. we are Elohims. even speaks of Israels children as Elohims because where does Judgement 1st start?

Matt 15:25

24 But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel ."
NKJV

Heb 8:8
I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah —
NKJV

Matt 19:28

28 And Yahshua said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel .
KJV

1 Cor 5:12-13

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside Yahweh judges. Therefore "put away from yourselves the evil person."
NKJV
Shalom..Miles

No, because they don't know any better. I will bash the Pope though if you give me a club.

Then cowboy throw out Pauls writings and Peters for sure for both spoke of keepng the law in Acts 10 Peter and Acts 21 Paul.. so they must be liars.

James 1:21-27

Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.

26 If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one's religion is useless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion before Yahshua and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
NKJV
Shalom. its up to u none else..Miles

so this whole shenanigan of yours is because you want to club the pope. and you want others to listen to what you have to say

Yeh sure. And my evil plan is to dismantle the Catholic Church. And expose them for the evil empire they are.....

you are harmless

Kudos!

I actually have no problem with people who believe in the Old Testament, and the idea that Jesus was the sacrificial lamb of God. If they prefer to place their faith in that idea, more power to them.

Where I have a problem is when they start suggesting that if I refuse to accept their faith, then I'm somehow "rejecting God". From my point of view that's just an all-round negative reaction to other people's views that serves no good purpose for anyone.

I was born and raised as a Christian, and initially I 'accepted' that the Bible was indeed the "word of God". I won't say that I 'believed' it, I'll just say that I accepted it. It was my intent to study the bible and eventually teach it so that I could answer people's questions about it and help them better understand it.

That's when the problems started. The more I studied the less "clear" it became. Instead of finding answers, I just discover more and more blatant contradictions and utter absurdities. I finally came to the conclusion that the book cannot be the word of any God. I was extremely relieved when I later discovered that the great Isaac Newton had come to similar conclusions. It was also reassuring to discover that the most brilliant scientist in all of humanity also discredited the biblical story of God.

It wasn't until much later when I took at extensive course on the history of Buddhism that I realized that Jesus was most likely a Mahayana Buddhist Bodhisattva. The timing is right, the location was definitely within the reach of this Buddhist movement.

However, far more importantly, it became crystal clear to me that the teachings of Jesus were far more in line with the teachings of Mahayana Buddhism and clearly not even remotely compatible with the teachings of the Old Testament.

Also, once I had recognized that Jesus himself was most likely just a mortal man, then there was no longer any reason to believe that the New Testament was the inspired word of God. In other words, there was no longer any reason to accept every verbatim quote in the New Testament as any sort of "gospel truth".

Thus I no longer had any reason to attempt to justify every single verse verbatim. I can now easily dismiss entire verses or even entire sections as simply being either gross misunderstandings of what Jesus actually stood for, or (as Jeanniebean suggests in this thread), many of the things written in the New Testament may be entire fabrications for the purpose of pushing forward some other agenda.

I still "keep" Jesus as a respected sage in my own personal spiritual journey, but I no longer have any need to uphold the "sacrificial lamb" idea of Christianity.

I just lump Jesus in with people like Buddha, Confucius, Lao Tzu and other spiritual teachers. I believe that all these men were in touch with the spiritual essence of humanity.

So in this respect I continue to hold Jesus in high regard. I just don't view him in the same way that orthodox Christianity does.

As for catholics themselves, I love them. They know how to party, cause then they can just go to confession and be all forgiven. Then the next weekend... another party!!

Writings on Newton by Stephen David Snobelen

At the end of the seventeenth century, Isaac Newton (1642-1727) initiated a revolution in science. At the end of the twentieth century, scholars began a revolution in the understanding of Newton. As Newton's long-concealed private papers on theology become increasingly accessible, students of Newton's thought are coming to see Newton as more than a scientist.

The author of the Principia mathematica was a true Renaissance man who spent decades delving in the secrets of alchemy and even longer studying the Bible, theology and church history. Leaving behind four million words on theology, Newton was one of the greatest lay theologians of his age. A study of Newton's theology and prophetic views illuminates the life of this great thinker and helps us understand his science.

I've actually considered that.

Lots of handsome latin lovers.

You shouldn't delete your post. Hey, say what you think.


And party on dude!

I met an X-Jesuit Priest on a cruise ship once, and he could really party.

He danced and danced. He was just discovering the world at age 45.

Mose's laws are not in the new testament/new covenant.

Ok.. Then your belief is Yahweh is not fair.. Yahweh is not the same yeaterday, today and tommorrow..

Tell be cowboy how is this Prophecy going to come about?

Mark 13:22

22 For false Messiah's and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible , even the elect.
KJV

How are the elect not decieved? Shalom..Miles

So you reject Pauls and Peters writings.. because both said they upheld and kept the law.. way after Yahshua's death.. Shalom..Miles

Most of the people who support "Christianity" are totally unaware of Newton's work in theology.

Those who claim that Christianity supports brother love, etc, fail to also mention that this is only supported when the "brother" acknowledges Jesus as "The Christ" (or only begotten son of God).

When Newton concluded that Jesus could not have been the son of the Old Testament God, he could not announce his "discovery" freely. On the contrary he had to keep it a secret. Because if he voiced it publicly he would have been proclaimed to be a "heathen" and it would have severely interfered with his social status, or even potentially brought him physical harm by the Christians of his time and place.

So the "Brotherly Love" of Christianity has historically only been offered to brothers who acknowledge Jesus as "The Christ".

Like Jeanniebean often points out, Christianity is a very exclusive club. Or at least, it certainly was so historically.

Yes he was ahead of the ch-rch of his time.. he may of been put to death but he still spent alot of time studying.

Do you know he wrote that by his calculations Yahshua's return or if you want to say the end of the world as we know it will be in 2060.. Blessings..Miles