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Topic: Family Murdered Gazans throw party
s1owhand's photo
Wed 03/23/11 12:17 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Wed 03/23/11 12:30 PM


whoa

You do realize that you are comparing some people fighting
- where police arrest those responsible on one hand....

And a bombing attack with shrapnel designed to kill and maim as
many innocent people as possible on the other hand.

There is no comparison. You might as well compare a bar brawl with
the 911 World Trade Center attack.

whoa

laugh

http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983295.ece/Islamic-Jihad-vows-to-fire-rockets-deep-into-Israel

and

http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 03/23/11 12:45 PM



http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.

If this is so, the Palestinians are well within their rights to retaliate against Israelis who agress against them.

Here's another example of Israeli regime aggression and Palestinian counter-aggression, if you need one...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/03/west-bank-palestinians-rise-in-settlers-attacks.html
The Palestinian Authority asked for international protection Monday citing a sharp rise in Israeli settler violence against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.

The call came after three Israelis from the Havat Maon settlement allegedly stabbed and seriously injured 33-year-old Mahmud Ibrahim Awad of Khirbat Tuba, a tiny village south of the West Bank city of Hebron, as he was walking home Monday morning. Awad was stabbed in the head, chest and arm.

In another incident, Israeli settlers allegedly opened fire at Palestinians during a funeral in the village of Beit Ommar, north of Hebron, injuring two people. One of them, a 59-year-old, was reported in critical condition. The second suffered injuries in the leg.

The Israeli army, which maintains a presence nearby because the village is on a road often used by settlers, intervened, firing tear gas and rubber bullets at the Palestinians, who threw rocks at the settlers after the shooting.

Ghassan Khatib, director of the Palestinian Authority media center, issued a statement holding the Israeli government responsible for what he called "serious and systematic escalation" in settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank, which Israel seized in the 1967 Middle East War.

Khatib called for "urgent international protection to prevent further crimes against the civilians."

Palestinians say attacks by Israeli settlers in the West Bank have escalated since the bloody slaying of an Israeli family in the West Bank settlement of Itamar last week.

No one has been arrested yet in connection with the Itamar killings, but Israeli officials and news media blamed Palestinian militants, resulting, Palestinians say, in revenge attacks by settlers. The Israeli government has placed a gag order on the investigation, after rumors that Thai and Filipino guest workers had been rounded up for questioning in the attack.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, who strongly denounced the Itamar slayings, also denounced the assumption that a Palestinian was responsible, accusing Israel of convicting Palestinians before the truth behind the crime was known.

"There is an insistence on blaming the Palestinian people before the investigation had revealed the truth about who the killer was," Abbas said, the Palestinian news agency Wafa reported. "I do not know why this persistence and why they insist on this position even though the facts are not yet known."

Abbas said "there are daily crimes committed by Israeli settlers" against Palestinian civilians, yet no one seems to be talking about them. "Our villages are being attacked on a daily basis, and so our mosques and our homes and our olive trees are cut down," he said. "Israel and the international community should take note of that."

In its weekly Protection of Civilians report, the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the occupied Palestinian territory recorded 32 incidents in which by settlers caused damage to Palestinian property, including one incident that left eight Palestinians injured.

It said that in the immediate aftermath of the Itamar killings, Israeli settlers rioted in the West Bank village of Awarta, the closest to the settlement, setting fire to tires and assaulting an 18-year-old Palestinian. Additionally, incidents of settler stone-throwing and vandalism were reported in the Ramallah, Nablus, Kalkiliya and Hebron areas of the West Bank, resulting in 13 Palestinian injuries and damage to many vehicles, homes and other private and commercial structures, OCHA said.

OCHA noted that in the days before the killings in Itamar there had already been a sharp increase in the number of settler attacks against Palestinians, beginning March 3 when Israeli settlers held a “day of rage” to protest the Israeli army demolition of a number of unauthorized structures in the Havat Gilad settlement outpost. Settlers rioted and blocked major roads and intersections across the West Bank in what they described as payback in the "price tag" policy targeting Palestinian civilians and property to protest the Israeli army's removal of their illegal outposts.

OCHA said that during the first two weeks of March there were 10 incidents involving Israeli settlers that resulted in 15 injuries to Palestinians, and 34 additional incidents resulting in damage to Palestinian property.

— Maher Abukhater in Ramallah, West Bank

s1owhand's photo
Wed 03/23/11 01:31 PM




http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.


The Palestinian Authority asked for international protection Monday citing a sharp rise in Israeli settler violence against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.



Ridiculous. The Palestinians mass bomb Israeli civilians then ask
the international community to protect them when there is 1) no
terrorist attacks against the Palestinians and 2) the Israeli
authorities aggressively pursue any settler violence.

laugh

s1owhand's photo
Wed 03/23/11 01:32 PM




http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.


The Palestinian Authority asked for international protection Monday citing a sharp rise in Israeli settler violence against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.



Ridiculous. The Palestinians mass bomb Israeli civilians then ask
the international community to protect them when there is 1) no
terrorist attacks against the Palestinians and 2) the Israeli
authorities aggressively pursue any settler violence.

laugh

s1owhand's photo
Wed 03/23/11 01:33 PM




http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.


The Palestinian Authority asked for international protection Monday citing a sharp rise in Israeli settler violence against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.



Ridiculous. The Palestinians mass bomb Israeli civilians then ask
the international community to protect them when there is 1) no
terrorist attacks against the Palestinians and 2) the Israeli
authorities aggressively pursue any settler violence.

laugh

s1owhand's photo
Wed 03/23/11 01:34 PM




http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.


The Palestinian Authority asked for international protection Monday citing a sharp rise in Israeli settler violence against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.



Ridiculous. The Palestinians mass bomb Israeli civilians then ask
the international community to protect them when there is 1) no
terrorist attacks against the Palestinians and 2) the Israeli
authorities aggressively pursue any settler violence.

laugh

s1owhand's photo
Wed 03/23/11 01:34 PM




http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.


The Palestinian Authority asked for international protection Monday citing a sharp rise in Israeli settler violence against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.



Ridiculous. The Palestinians mass bomb Israeli civilians then ask
the international community to protect them when there is 1) no
terrorist attacks against the Palestinians and 2) the Israeli
authorities aggressively pursue any settler violence.

laugh

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/23/11 05:36 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Wed 03/23/11 05:37 PM



http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.

If this is so, the Palestinians are well within their rights to retaliate against Israelis who agress against them.

Here's another example of Israeli regime aggression and Palestinian counter-aggression, if you need one...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/03/west-bank-palestinians-rise-in-settlers-attacks.html
The Palestinian Authority asked for international protection Monday citing a sharp rise in Israeli settler violence against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.

The call came after three Israelis from the Havat Maon settlement allegedly stabbed and seriously injured 33-year-old Mahmud Ibrahim Awad of Khirbat Tuba, a tiny village south of the West Bank city of Hebron, as he was walking home Monday morning. Awad was stabbed in the head, chest and arm.

In another incident, Israeli settlers allegedly opened fire at Palestinians during a funeral in the village of Beit Ommar, north of Hebron, injuring two people. One of them, a 59-year-old, was reported in critical condition. The second suffered injuries in the leg.

The Israeli army, which maintains a presence nearby because the village is on a road often used by settlers, intervened, firing tear gas and rubber bullets at the Palestinians, who threw rocks at the settlers after the shooting.

Ghassan Khatib, director of the Palestinian Authority media center, issued a statement holding the Israeli government responsible for what he called "serious and systematic escalation" in settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank, which Israel seized in the 1967 Middle East War.

Khatib called for "urgent international protection to prevent further crimes against the civilians."

Palestinians say attacks by Israeli settlers in the West Bank have escalated since the bloody slaying of an Israeli family in the West Bank settlement of Itamar last week.

No one has been arrested yet in connection with the Itamar killings, but Israeli officials and news media blamed Palestinian militants, resulting, Palestinians say, in revenge attacks by settlers. The Israeli government has placed a gag order on the investigation, after rumors that Thai and Filipino guest workers had been rounded up for questioning in the attack.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, who strongly denounced the Itamar slayings, also denounced the assumption that a Palestinian was responsible, accusing Israel of convicting Palestinians before the truth behind the crime was known.

"There is an insistence on blaming the Palestinian people before the investigation had revealed the truth about who the killer was," Abbas said, the Palestinian news agency Wafa reported. "I do not know why this persistence and why they insist on this position even though the facts are not yet known."

Abbas said "there are daily crimes committed by Israeli settlers" against Palestinian civilians, yet no one seems to be talking about them. "Our villages are being attacked on a daily basis, and so our mosques and our homes and our olive trees are cut down," he said. "Israel and the international community should take note of that."

In its weekly Protection of Civilians report, the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the occupied Palestinian territory recorded 32 incidents in which by settlers caused damage to Palestinian property, including one incident that left eight Palestinians injured.

It said that in the immediate aftermath of the Itamar killings, Israeli settlers rioted in the West Bank village of Awarta, the closest to the settlement, setting fire to tires and assaulting an 18-year-old Palestinian. Additionally, incidents of settler stone-throwing and vandalism were reported in the Ramallah, Nablus, Kalkiliya and Hebron areas of the West Bank, resulting in 13 Palestinian injuries and damage to many vehicles, homes and other private and commercial structures, OCHA said.

OCHA noted that in the days before the killings in Itamar there had already been a sharp increase in the number of settler attacks against Palestinians, beginning March 3 when Israeli settlers held a “day of rage” to protest the Israeli army demolition of a number of unauthorized structures in the Havat Gilad settlement outpost. Settlers rioted and blocked major roads and intersections across the West Bank in what they described as payback in the "price tag" policy targeting Palestinian civilians and property to protest the Israeli army's removal of their illegal outposts.

OCHA said that during the first two weeks of March there were 10 incidents involving Israeli settlers that resulted in 15 injuries to Palestinians, and 34 additional incidents resulting in damage to Palestinian property.

— Maher Abukhater in Ramallah, West Bank


yea, i guess the muslims never lie either....

s1owhand's photo
Thu 03/24/11 05:03 AM
In the last 3 days over 70 missiles were fired into Israel. A bomb was strapped to a phone booth at a Jerusalem bus station, killing one and seriously injuring 3 others. Last week a Palestinian terrorist walked into the house of the Fogel family and murdered Mr. Fogel, his wife and 3 of his 6 children with a kitchen knife.

That is real terrorism. Not checkpoints, not land disputes, not
arguments. There is no defending these attacks logically - it is
hatred and barbarity - intolerable and indefensible by anyone.

s1owhand's photo
Thu 03/24/11 07:10 AM

In the last 3 days over 70 missiles were fired into Israel. A bomb was
strapped to a phone booth at a Jerusalem bus station, killing one and
seriously injuring 3 others. Last week a Palestinian terrorist walked
into the house of the Fogel family and murdered Mr. Fogel, his wife
and 3 of his 6 children with a kitchen knife.

That is real terrorism. Not checkpoints, not land disputes, not
arguments. There is no defending these attacks logically - it is
hatred and barbarity - intolerable and indefensible by anyone.


s1owhand's photo
Thu 03/24/11 07:12 AM



http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article983025.ece/Gazan-rockets-hit-deep-in-Israel-minister-sees-war

Israel has every right and a duty to defend her citizens
from these rocket and bomb attacks. Just as the U.S. does for her
citizens.


The Palestinian Authority asked for international protection Monday citing a sharp rise in Israeli settler violence against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.



Ridiculous. The Palestinians mass bomb Israeli civilians then ask
the international community to protect them when there is 1) no
terrorist attacks against the Palestinians and 2) the Israeli
authorities aggressively pursue any settler violence.

laugh

Don't know why it got posted so many times - site hiccup...

metalwing's photo
Thu 03/24/11 07:49 AM
From Wilki ...


The Israeli Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center estimated that in 2007[20] the proportions of rockets fired were:

34% - Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Al Quds)
22% - Hamas (Qassam)
 8% - Fatah (Kafah)
 6% - Popular Resistance Committees (al Nasser)
30% - unknown

The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center reports that the number of Palestinian rockets fired per year[20] were:

2001:   4
2002:  35
2003: 155
2004: 281
2005: 179
2006: 946
2007: 896

Numbers per type of Palestinian rocket, thus Qassam numbers, are not known exactly.

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 03/24/11 03:09 PM
Who knowes what to believe anymore when it comes to israel. Often it seems they manufacture terrorism as in this proven case. How many times have the sucseeded?

The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.[1] The operation caused no casualties, except for the members of the cell who committed suicide after being captured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

s1owhand's photo
Thu 03/24/11 04:14 PM
The most important thing about "what to believe" in the Mideast
conflict is to note what is reported in the free open press - such
as the Israeli reporting. When events can be reported with freedom
of the press then multiple sources can be examined and facts can
be checked without interference from the government.

Israel has freedom of the press but the Palestinians and other
Arab countries do not have freedom of the press. Stories coming
from these Govt controlled mouthpieces cannot be fully trusted since
they only report stories favorable and approved by the authorities.

But no one can really dispute most Israeli figures since they are
a matter of public record in the free and open international press.


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