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my question to people are if god always existed then why couldn't the universe? God created the universe to sustain us. The bible teaches of the creation of the universe, not just the creation of the planet. that does not even answer the question. the question is directly on the mark. if "god" always existed, then SO DOES WHATEVER WHAT GOD CREATED. which goes directly to the essence of HUMANS ARE IMMORTAL, ALWAYS HAD ETERNAL LIFE, ARE WERE FOREVER... and THAT HUMANS, DECIDED, IT WAS EARNED, BY GOOD DEEDS. eternal, living a short non eternal space in time, THEN BACK TO ETERNAL, THEN PICKING A NEW REALITY, A NEW REALM TO LIVE AS MORTAL WITHIN, TO "CREATE" IT, TO ADVANCE THEIR "OWN INTELLIGENCE". then back to eternal again. ALL LIFE IS ETERNAL. the life of that little bug, when it dies, comes out and enters into the NEXT BODY UP THE EVOLUTION CHAIN, to LEARN MORE. ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL GETTING TO HUMAN. in between each LIFE, the LIFE, gets a stopOVER, to be "DEBRIEFED", as to where ITS GOING NEXT. pretty simple. Yes it did answer your question. If God created the universe for US, then no the universe has not always existed. He created it when he chose to create the earth, when he created time and space, when he created everything. |
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cowboy...
it was not even my question being referred to. i did not post the question, lol... hello... IF GOD IS ETERNAL, THEN SO IS ALL "GOD" CREATES. and why NOTHING CAN "EARN" ETERNAL LIFE. and why such was even declared in your book. this is only about a self intellect as more knowing contest to you... lol... be for real man... you don't even quote your own book with any accuracy. GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, AND RECONSTRUCT LEAVING OUT THE LIES HEARD FROM HUMANS, AND THEN THERE WILL BE CONSISTENCY OF LOGIC. before then, there is no logic, as logic is consistent reasoning, based upon unmmoving principles, and no such thing is contained within the "belief". |
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Everytime you read a militant Christian claiming it's all about what they want for the Unbeliever? Don't believe it. It's all about THEM. What they believe MUST be believed or they'll "love" you until you do. Even though they don't know the first thing about you, or you are 3 times their age and experience level. Doesn't matter that they don't know an asymptote from a microfissure. They read the Bible and that makes THEM experts on the Universe without the messy college courses in Physics, Biology and Chemistry and YOU a poor dumb sap for wasting your time in pursuit of a better understanding of the physical reality that can be touched, obeys laws that aren't biased towards belief and that take a lot of WORK to understand. That's what makes me the most uncomfortable being around militant Christians-- they listen with their mouths and call it love. When it's really narcissism. I guess that's what comes of being too insecure to allow other people to choose a different way of looking at and understanding Life, the Universe and Everything. -Kerry O. Truly. There is no love in hateful bigotry, ignorance, and narcissism. Militant Christians do not represent, nor do they teach the philosophy of Jesus. On the contrary, they typically reject the teachings of Jesus and instead use him as a truly feeble excuse to support their own personal bigotries. I have no doubt whatsoever that if Jesus were alive today he would renounce such "Christians" as hypocrites, just like he renounced the Pharisees of his day. |
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it seems nothing that deems itself a "christain", could be so, unless it believed itself as "christlike", and if it deems itself "christlike", then it would have to be willing to do as christ did, and keeps it mouth shut even when ridiculed and abused and killed by it's fellow man, lol...
so who the fucck is really a christain... lol... men made up the words of christian... it is simply a way for HUMANS TO BUILD VALUE IN THEMSELF, the very opposite of what JESUS was, lol... and so they amrch around, FEELING OVERINFLATED BY DEEMING THEMSELF A "CHRISTIAN", when their own "leader" never even called himself OF ANY TERM OR LABEL TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF WITH A SINGULAR BELIEF. he was simply against the practice per the very words of the book the "christians" use to prove themself as MORE VALUABLE, AS MO SMART, AS MO INTELLIGENT, AS MO WORTHY, AS MO RIGHTEOUS, AS MO "KNOWING OF GOD", AS A BELIEVER... the very name "christian", go against the teaching of "jesus", that there is "none" better than another, so than no "belief" of PEOPLE as better than another, which the term CHRISTIAN ITSELF SIGNIFIES AS TRUE, by the very use of it. if there as no distinction as BETTER, or GREATER, believed by a human, there would be no ACCEPTANCE OF A WORD THAT DENOTES SUCH BY IT'S VERY EXISTENCE. and how would take a label to describe itself, UNLESS THAT LABEL SIGNIFIED SELF AS "BETTER"... do christain take the label "SINNERS" TO SIGNIFY THEIR GROUP, AS DEFINING THEMSELF? HELL NO... so taking the LABEL CHRISTIAN, SHOWS THE ONLY REASON SUCH LABEL IS TAKEN, IS TO SIGNIFY "GOOD ABOUT SELF", SELF AS "BETTER", SELF AS "NO LONGER A SINNER", SELF AS "NOT LOST"... but the only thing that would seek to PROVE ITSELF AS OF GOD, is what BELIEVES ITSELF "MORE OF GOD", for if in the brain, ALL WERE THOUGHT OF AS FROM "GOD", then it would be A MOOT POINT. AS IN, ALL KNOW A CAR MOVES DOWN THE ROAD, SO NO NEED TO SAY IT. so the very utterance of the word "christian", DENOTES DIFFERENCE. worse DIFFERENCE? NO, BETTER DIFFERENCE. so a GREATER THAN. AND THEIR OWN BOOK SAYS THERE ARE NO "GREATER THANS"... hum... the religion and beliefs are the most NONE CONSISTENT WITHOUT REASON NOR LOGIC THING ON EARTH. |
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it seems nothing that deems itself a "christain", could be so, unless it believed itself as "christlike", and if it deems itself "christlike", then it would have to be willing to do as christ did, and keeps it mouth shut even when ridiculed and abused and killed by it's fellow man, lol... so who the fucck is really a christain... lol... men made up the words of christian... it is simply a way for HUMANS TO BUILD VALUE IN THEMSELF, the very opposite of what JESUS was, lol... and so they amrch around, FEELING OVERINFLATED BY DEEMING THEMSELF A "CHRISTIAN", when their own "leader" never even called himself OF ANY TERM OR LABEL TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF WITH A SINGULAR BELIEF. he was simply against the practice per the very words of the book the "christians" use to prove themself as MORE VALUABLE, AS MO SMART, AS MO INTELLIGENT, AS MO WORTHY, AS MO RIGHTEOUS, AS MO "KNOWING OF GOD", AS A BELIEVER... the very name "christian", go against the teaching of "jesus", that there is "none" better than another, so than no "belief" of PEOPLE as better than another, which the term CHRISTIAN ITSELF SIGNIFIES AS TRUE, by the very use of it. if there as no distinction as BETTER, or GREATER, believed by a human, there would be no ACCEPTANCE OF A WORD THAT DENOTES SUCH BY IT'S VERY EXISTENCE. and how would take a label to describe itself, UNLESS THAT LABEL SIGNIFIED SELF AS "BETTER"... do christain take the label "SINNERS" TO SIGNIFY THEIR GROUP, AS DEFINING THEMSELF? HELL NO... so taking the LABEL CHRISTIAN, SHOWS THE ONLY REASON SUCH LABEL IS TAKEN, IS TO SIGNIFY "GOOD ABOUT SELF", SELF AS "BETTER", SELF AS "NO LONGER A SINNER", SELF AS "NOT LOST"... but the only thing that would seek to PROVE ITSELF AS OF GOD, is what BELIEVES ITSELF "MORE OF GOD", for if in the brain, ALL WERE THOUGHT OF AS FROM "GOD", then it would be A MOOT POINT. AS IN, ALL KNOW A CAR MOVES DOWN THE ROAD, SO NO NEED TO SAY IT. so the very utterance of the word "christian", DENOTES DIFFERENCE. worse DIFFERENCE? NO, BETTER DIFFERENCE. so a GREATER THAN. AND THEIR OWN BOOK SAYS THERE ARE NO "GREATER THANS"... hum... the religion and beliefs are the most NONE CONSISTENT WITHOUT REASON NOR LOGIC THING ON EARTH. it is simply a way for HUMANS TO BUILD VALUE IN THEMSELF, the very opposite of what JESUS was, lol No "Christian" is a title YOU give us. We don't take that title in that exact sense. We are followers of Christ PERIOD. If you wish to call that a Christian be my guest. |
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No "Christian" is a title YOU give us. We don't take that title in that exact sense. We are followers of Christ PERIOD. If you wish to call that a Christian be my guest. I've met very few "Christians" who actually follow the teachings of Jesus. Far too many of them just use Jesus as an excuse to spread hatred toward anyone who doesn't believe in the biblical picture of God. They use Jesus as an excuse to hate. Nothing more. |
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I DONT CALL YOU A CHRISTAIN.
I CALL YOU COWBOY, AS PER YOUR REQUEST. as per your screenname. if you ain't no christain, than i ain't talking to you, so my words would not apply. so, which is it? if you are NOT A CHRISTIAN, THAN WHY DO YOU RESPOND TO WORDS ABOUT "CHRISTAINS"? LOL... now you wanna claim "christains" ARE NOT THE ONES THAT CLAIMED THAT FOR NAME FOR THEMSELF? lol... YOU CANT SEE YOUR VERY RESPONSE TO A POST REGARDING CHRISTIANS, AND SAYING "OTHERS" DENOTES SELF AS A CHRISTAIN, IS ACCEPTING ONESELF AS ONE, LOL... so you are not a 'christain'? |
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No "Christian" is a title YOU give us. We don't take that title in that exact sense. We are followers of Christ PERIOD. If you wish to call that a Christian be my guest. I've met very few "Christians" who actually follow the teachings of Jesus. Far too many of them just use Jesus as an excuse to spread hatred toward anyone who doesn't believe in the biblical picture of God. They use Jesus as an excuse to hate. Nothing more. THERE IS NO HATRED. I'M NO BETTER THEN YOU, YOU'RE NOT BETTER THEN ME. I LOVE YOU JUST AS MUCH AS I LOVE ANYONE ELSE IN THIS WORLD. I WOULD HELP YOU JUST AS ANYONE ELSE. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO HATRED. |
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I DONT CALL YOU A CHRISTAIN. I CALL YOU COWBOY, AS PER YOUR REQUEST. as per your screenname. if you ain't no christain, than i ain't talking to you, so my words would not apply. so, which is it? if you are NOT A CHRISTIAN, THAN WHY DO YOU RESPOND TO WORDS ABOUT "CHRISTAINS"? LOL... now you wanna claim "christains" ARE NOT THE ONES THAT CLAIMED THAT FOR NAME FOR THEMSELF? lol... YOU CANT SEE YOUR VERY RESPONSE TO A POST REGARDING CHRISTIANS, AND SAYING "OTHERS" DENOTES SELF AS A CHRISTAIN, IS ACCEPTING ONESELF AS ONE, LOL... so you are not a 'christain'? We are followers of our fathers laws. We do as he tells us to do. It is you and others that wish to give that a Christian title. If you wish to give it then yes I'll wear it. But I did not give myself that title. I'm merely an obedient child of our father which art in heaven. |
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fucck no i don't!
i want the title SURRENDERED. REMOVED FROM SOCIETY! BY THE FREE WILL OF GIVING IT UP. and those that are diluted enough to think ONLY THEY, AND WHAT BELIEVES AS THEMSELF, FOLLOW ANY TRUE "GOD", OR FATHER, AND ARE THE OBEDIANT OF "GOD". my god PUKES AT OBEDIENCE. AT EARNING HEAVEN FOR ONESELF. which IS THE ONLY WAY ONE WOULD CALL "LOVING" OTHERS, AS OBEDIENCE. hitler taught OBEDIENCE. AND YOUR BELIEF CREATES THE SAME WITHIN SOCIETY. so IT IS THE FURTHEST REMOVED FROM ANY POSSIBLE "GOD" AS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE OR GOOD THAT EXIST, SO OPPOSED TO "ALL UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. so creates the OPPOSITE OF IT. so, OF THE OPPOSITE, SO OF THE DEVIL. plain and simply. |
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fucck no i don't! i want the title SURRENDERED. REMOVED FROM SOCIETY! BY THE FREE WILL OF GIVING IT UP. and those that are diluted enough to think ONLY THEY, AND WHAT BELIEVES AS THEMSELF, FOLLOW ANY TRUE "GOD", OR FATHER, AND ARE THE OBEDIANT OF "GOD". my god PUKES AT OBEDIENCE. AT EARNING HEAVEN FOR ONESELF. which IS THE ONLY WAY ONE WOULD CALL "LOVING" OTHERS, AS OBEDIENCE. hitler taught OBEDIENCE. AND YOUR BELIEF CREATES THE SAME WITHIN SOCIETY. so IT IS THE FURTHEST REMOVED FROM ANY POSSIBLE "GOD" AS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE OR GOOD THAT EXIST, SO OPPOSED TO "ALL UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. so creates the OPPOSITE OF IT. so, OF THE OPPOSITE, SO OF THE DEVIL. plain and simply. You must be a selfish person david. You always think in the most selfish ways. Gaining heaven isn't for the gain of oneself. It is to get the chance to worship and praise our father and live in his glory with our family and friends. It isn't for the bettering of oneself, it is the chance to abode with your loved ones and share in the joys. |
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ooh...
im a selfish person... seems selfish to wantr heaven for ONESELF. in fact, such creates THE MOST INTENSE BLIND SELF INTEREST, WHICH IS SELFISH, THAT EXIST. I DON'T GIVE A FLYIN FUCCK ABOUT HEAVEN FOR ME. lol... so, guess i ain't as selfish as you, lol... my greatest selfish is to create HEAVEN ON EARTH, which is REMOVING WHAT CREATES HELL ON EARTH, WHICH IS THE CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, AND THE MANY OTHERS... lol... a place where young brains are not STOLEN, by spewings of what WOULD BE HELL OR EXTREME FEAR FOR MANY... THAT THEY WOULD EXIST NO MORE, SO SEE NO OTHER OF THEIR FREINDS ANYMORE, OR LOVED ONES ANY MORE... only self declared TYRANTS POSING THEMSELF AS CARERES OF HUMANS, IN THE NAME OF "GOD", WOULD SPEW AND CREATE SUCH ILLUSIONS IN THEIR SELF SERVING BRAINS. |
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ooh... im a selfish person... seems selfish to wantr heaven for ONESELF. in fact, such creates THE MOST INTENSE BLIND SELF INTEREST, WHICH IS SELFISH, THAT EXIST. I DON'T GIVE A FLYIN FUCCK ABOUT HEAVEN FOR ME. lol... so, guess i ain't as selfish as you, lol... my greatest selfish is to create HEAVEN ON EARTH, which is REMOVING WHAT CREATES HELL ON EARTH, WHICH IS THE CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, AND THE MANY OTHERS... lol... a place where young brains are not STOLEN, by spewings of what WOULD BE HELL OR EXTREME FEAR FOR MANY... THAT THEY WOULD EXIST NO MORE, SO SEE NO OTHER OF THEIR FREINDS ANYMORE, OR LOVED ONES ANY MORE... only self declared TYRANTS POSING THEMSELF AS CARERES OF HUMANS, IN THE NAME OF "GOD", WOULD SPEW AND CREATE SUCH ILLUSIONS IN THEIR SELF SERVING BRAINS. I'm not in it for me. The hours and hours I spend in these forums aren't for me. I don't gain "browny" points for discussing in these forums. I discuss in these forums for YOU. I want EVERYONE to enjoy in the glory of heaven. Again it's not any selfish manner or bettering of oneself. I'm gonna spend my last breath trying to show people the way to our father. |
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point the way to the father of all lies.
self interest for self to aquire heaven, WHEN IT WAS A 'GIFT', OR ALWAYS AS SO, WITHOUT BEGINNING NOR ENDING, AS ALL THINGS OF "GOD" ARE, so only NOT HAD UNTIL AND WHILE ON EARTH, IN HELL... lol... point on father of all lies. go ye loyal subject of lies, fly away to hell, where all liers go, whom declare heaven only be for what LISTENS TO THEMSELF, LOL... what uccking twisted beliefs of unsanity, adopted by wouldbe speakers for god, lol... self declared so speaker of the devil, lol... demons posed as god, lol... such beliefs within society are. creating demons, humans that don't give a fucck except getting to heaven or bliss FOR THEMSELF. or there would no speak of GEETING OR ATTAINING HEAVEN, LOL... somebody help me! SOMEBODY REMOVE THE TERRORIST FROM SOCIETY. that wish to ATTAIN HEAVEN FOR THEMSELF SO BAD, they would teach children they do not exist if they die, IF THEY DO NOT OBEY. SUCH UNCONDITIONAL LOVE! omg... just ooozes from every pore of such damned satanic beliefs. |
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Cowboy wrote:
I'm not in it for me. The hours and hours I spend in these forums aren't for me. I don't gain "browny" points for discussing in these forums. I discuss in these forums for YOU. I want EVERYONE to enjoy in the glory of heaven. Again it's not any selfish manner or bettering of oneself. I'm gonna spend my last breath trying to show people the way to our father. The hours you spend on these forums is in vain if you think you are making God appear attractive to anyone. 
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point the way to the father of all lies. self interest for self to aquire heaven, WHEN IT WAS A 'GIFT', OR ALWAYS AS SO, WITHOUT BEGINNING NOR ENDING, AS ALL THINGS OF "GOD" ARE, so only NOT HAD UNTIL AND WHILE ON EARTH, IN HELL... lol... point on father of all lies. go ye loyal subject of lies, fly away to hell, where all liers go, whom declare heaven only be for what LISTENS TO THEMSELF, LOL... what uccking twisted beliefs of unsanity, adopted by wouldbe speakers for god, lol... self declared so speaker of the devil, lol... demons posed as god, lol... such beliefs within society are. creating demons, humans that don't give a fucck except getting to heaven or bliss FOR THEMSELF. or there would no speak of GEETING OR ATTAINING HEAVEN, LOL... somebody help me! SOMEBODY REMOVE THE TERRORIST FROM SOCIETY. that wish to ATTAIN HEAVEN FOR THEMSELF SO BAD, they would teach children they do not exist if they die, IF THEY DO NOT OBEY. SUCH UNCONDITIONAL LOVE! omg... just ooozes from every pore of such damned satanic beliefs. May God be with you |
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Cowboy wrote:
I'm not in it for me. The hours and hours I spend in these forums aren't for me. I don't gain "browny" points for discussing in these forums. I discuss in these forums for YOU. I want EVERYONE to enjoy in the glory of heaven. Again it's not any selfish manner or bettering of oneself. I'm gonna spend my last breath trying to show people the way to our father. The hours you spend on these forums is in vain if you think you are making God appear attractive to anyone.
Not trying to make god look "attractive, shiny, or anything of such". Merely telling people of the truth. I can't help it if one is to blind to see the truth. |
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Cowboy wrote:
I'm not in it for me. The hours and hours I spend in these forums aren't for me. I don't gain "browny" points for discussing in these forums. I discuss in these forums for YOU. I want EVERYONE to enjoy in the glory of heaven. Again it's not any selfish manner or bettering of oneself. I'm gonna spend my last breath trying to show people the way to our father. The hours you spend on these forums is in vain if you think you are making God appear attractive to anyone.
Not trying to make god look "attractive, shiny, or anything of such". Merely telling people of the truth. I can't help it if one is to blind to see the truth. I'm merely a messenger informing people of the way to eternal life through the grace of our father. If you wish to call that shiny, so be it. If you wish to call that attractive, so be it. But nevertheless it is the truth. Jesus is the only way to our father, and the father has always been. He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. |
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Cowboy wrote:
I'm gonna spend my last breath trying to show people the way to our father. I'm sorry to hear that you feel God is so incompetent that you might succeed where he has failed. |
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Cowboy wrote:
I'm gonna spend my last breath trying to show people the way to our father. I'm sorry to hear that you feel God is so incompetent that you might succeed where he has failed. God has failed at nothing. It was the human raise that turned away from God. It is God that has given people a second chance to return. It's not him failing if one does not accomplish that goal, it is the person the job was given to that failed. |
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