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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, |
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oh yeah, I forgot a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths that could have to do with the fact they their culture is DIFFERENT than american culture,,,you probably wont hear them 'complaining' about many of those things WHITES complain about either At least you can admit that your "culture" complains in spite of hardships while others with the same issues choose to approach the problem from a different angle. Amazing how well they do it too huh? It's a lesson a lot of us could learn from as my father also agreed with here in this story he used to tell me when I would complain about how bad my life was. Fun fact: My father retired from the navy and went to work as a tub boat operator in corpus TX. When he started (in the 70's) he said there were a bunch of poor Asians that would fish out on the docks, He observed how they would eat all the fish the Americans would throw back out and they would sell everything they could. Overtime, they saved and lived sparingly and eventually opened the majority of the shops in the area. Now they dominate the tourist market there.They easily make way more over my father. They were very poor people with NO help from ANYONE, and being this is Texas you bet they had to deal with racism. Yet they prevailed. That is the story my father told me and I am telling it to you because that's how a successful person approaches life. read again, not MY culture, AMERICAN culture (which is predominately white americans) and no, its not the SAME issues,, it really isnt as I explained there is a different ECONOMIC base for asian immigrants and nowhere near the history of OPPRESSIVE treatment in America (yes I know there were camps and there is racism against all minorities), but the difference here is that BLACKS in america were PROPERTY (asians, although discriminated against, could BUY their equality) the difference here is that BLACKS , as a result of the segregation laws and jim crow POLICIES of US government were put at an economic disadvantage for most of their history in the STATES which lead to other disparate views about them as compared to other more 'model' minorities the difference is when you can show that there is DISPARATE treatment of other minorities that can be linked DIRECTLY to a HISTORY of racist policies and laws,, you can compare those with african americans until then, racism exists against all people YES, but the IMPACT of racially discriminatory and seperatist VIEWS which are reflected through laws and policies, is historically(US HISTORY, IM speaking of) more prone to be affecting BLACK americans,,, and BLACK americans have the right and responsibility to speak up about it Asians were just as used as black folks were, if not worse...just not as long...who built the entire railroad system in America as forced labor? what did the Americans do to the Asians during WW2? Who mined most of the resources in the west in the 1800's? They more than enough reason to complain, but they are smart enough to know they have it better here than anywhere else... best understatement so far 'just not as long'...lol |
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you know you don't hear much from the asians...i wonder what they are up to,hardly a sound they never throw the race card....hmmmm Yea there are a lot of other races here that live in poor areas that don't pull the race card. By the way, from this statement, one would gather that you believe that, typically, Asians don't pull the race card and other races are more likely to do so. That statement right there holds just as much racism and hatred as the clip from Obama that you cited. Either you're both racist and hateful, or neither statement exemplifies such things. Thank you for proving my point. I fully admitted I could be a racist due to my thoughts. If that's the case oh well. If recognizing racial differences makes me a racist then ok. So me and Obama are racists  Still doesn't stop me from having black friends and it doesn't make me treat black people differently.
Again, thank you for proving my point. I know you didn't think that you agreed with me, but you just flipped on your own point without knowing it. |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! |
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you know you don't hear much from the asians...i wonder what they are up to,hardly a sound they never throw the race card....hmmmm Yea there are a lot of other races here that live in poor areas that don't pull the race card. By the way, from this statement, one would gather that you believe that, typically, Asians don't pull the race card and other races are more likely to do so. That statement right there holds just as much racism and hatred as the clip from Obama that you cited. Either you're both racist and hateful, or neither statement exemplifies such things. Thank you for proving my point. I fully admitted I could be a racist due to my thoughts. If that's the case oh well. If recognizing racial differences makes me a racist then ok. So me and Obama are racists Still doesn't stop me from having black friends and it doesn't make me treat black people differently.
Again, thank you for proving my point. I know you didn't think that you agreed with me, but you just flipped on your own point without knowing it. LOL no I didn't you just cant seem to understand what I am saying. Not surprising. Why don't you tell me what you think my point is. |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! |
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you know you don't hear much from the asians...i wonder what they are up to,hardly a sound they never throw the race card....hmmmm Yea there are a lot of other races here that live in poor areas that don't pull the race card. By the way, from this statement, one would gather that you believe that, typically, Asians don't pull the race card and other races are more likely to do so. That statement right there holds just as much racism and hatred as the clip from Obama that you cited. Either you're both racist and hateful, or neither statement exemplifies such things. Thank you for proving my point. I fully admitted I could be a racist due to my thoughts. If that's the case oh well. If recognizing racial differences makes me a racist then ok. So me and Obama are racists Still doesn't stop me from having black friends and it doesn't make me treat black people differently.
Again, thank you for proving my point. I know you didn't think that you agreed with me, but you just flipped on your own point without knowing it. LOL no I didn't you just cant seem to understand what I am saying. Not surprising. Why don't you tell me what you think my point is. Are you joking? In my first response to you, I mentioned that recognizing differences in people of different races did not make one racist. I stated that racism was more about hating people because of those differences. Now you're coming back at me by trying to say that you see those differences and that makes you and Obama racist, but that you don't treat people differently or hate them because of their race. By stating "If recognizing racial differences makes me a racist then ok," you show that either you just completely forgot what you had just argued against or that you just have a basic lack of understanding for what you're talking about. You're either missing the point or simply refuse to understand. Either way, I'm satisfied because anybody who reads the discourse and can articulate an argument is going to see that. |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! are you serious? so if I am being raped, and I IGNORE it , it will stop? If I am being tortured and I IGNORE it, it will stop? If a people are being systematically oppressed or terrorized and they IGNORE it, it will stop? racism doesnt end by being ignored, it just allows the racists to believe that it is how it should be because NOONE is saying any differently,,, |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! i have to disagree with you about bullies...the best way to deal with a bully is to break his nose...then the bulling will stop... |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! i have to disagree with you about bullies...the best way to deal with a bully is to break his nose...then the bulling will stop... I had a friend who tried that. Then the 16 year old kid that had been bulling him shot him 9 times with a tech 9 and he died. Had he ignored the guy he would be alive. |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! i have to disagree with you about bullies...the best way to deal with a bully is to break his nose...then the bulling will stop... I had a friend who tried that. Then the 16 year old kid that had been bulling him shot him 9 times with a tech 9 and he died. Had he ignored the guy he would be alive. says who? if there is a 16 year old with the mindset to shoot someone over a fight, who says he wouldnt have eventually shot him about something else? |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! are you serious? so if I am being raped, and I IGNORE it , it will stop? If I am being tortured and I IGNORE it, it will stop? If a people are being systematically oppressed or terrorized and they IGNORE it, it will stop? racism doesnt end by being ignored, it just allows the racists to believe that it is how it should be because NOONE is saying any differently,,, Obviously when I say ignore a bully one would assume that you have removed yourself from the bully.......I think that's common sense. The point is this.. You have one rape victim she is sad and depressed and so she gets counseling. she works hard to work through her fears and move past the event. she is rewarded by moving on and being able to heal emotionally and be happy in life. She is able to rise above the situation because she CHOOSES to focus on the good and positive things in her life. Now take the second rape victim still sad , depressed and yea she has a reason for it too! She is COMPLETELY justified in her actions!. But she focuses on the fear, the pain and she gives into that fear and hides from men and lives off SSD for PTSD from the trauma of the experience. Not only is she stuck in the poor area where she is more likely to be victimized again but she also is stuck. Emotionally and physically and she is NOT happy, because you cant be happy when you live your life thinking about how bad things are for you. |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! i have to disagree with you about bullies...the best way to deal with a bully is to break his nose...then the bulling will stop... I had a friend who tried that. Then the 16 year old kid that had been bulling him shot him 9 times with a tech 9 and he died. Had he ignored the guy he would be alive. the bullying stopped, didn't it? he can bully with his azz in jail...they like the young ones in there...to bad the kid died, but he wont be getting punked anymore... hopefully someone learned from it, besides the idiot in prison... |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! are you serious? so if I am being raped, and I IGNORE it , it will stop? If I am being tortured and I IGNORE it, it will stop? If a people are being systematically oppressed or terrorized and they IGNORE it, it will stop? racism doesnt end by being ignored, it just allows the racists to believe that it is how it should be because NOONE is saying any differently,,, Obviously when I say ignore a bully one would assume that you have removed yourself from the bully.......I think that's common sense. The point is this.. You have one rape victim she is sad and depressed and so she gets counseling. she works hard to work through her fears and move past the event. she is rewarded by moving on and being able to heal emotionally and be happy in life. She is able to rise above the situation because she CHOOSES to focus on the good and positive things in her life. Now take the second rape victim still sad , depressed and yea she has a reason for it too! She is COMPLETELY justified in her actions!. But she focuses on the fear, the pain and she gives into that fear and hides from men and lives off SSD for PTSD from the trauma of the experience. Not only is she stuck in the poor area where she is more likely to be victimized again but she also is stuck. Emotionally and physically and she is NOT happy, because you cant be happy when you live your life thinking about how bad things are for you. I agree, and this is why I said people achieve IN SPITE of racism and people hold themself back BECAUSE of racism,,but neither group has any obligation to IGNORE racism exists,,, I was a victim of rape, I didnt overcome it by ignoring that it happened or not talking about it,,,JUST THE OPPOSITE,,, |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! are you serious? so if I am being raped, and I IGNORE it , it will stop? If I am being tortured and I IGNORE it, it will stop? If a people are being systematically oppressed or terrorized and they IGNORE it, it will stop? racism doesnt end by being ignored, it just allows the racists to believe that it is how it should be because NOONE is saying any differently,,, Obviously when I say ignore a bully one would assume that you have removed yourself from the bully.......I think that's common sense. The point is this.. You have one rape victim she is sad and depressed and so she gets counseling. she works hard to work through her fears and move past the event. she is rewarded by moving on and being able to heal emotionally and be happy in life. She is able to rise above the situation because she CHOOSES to focus on the good and positive things in her life. Now take the second rape victim still sad , depressed and yea she has a reason for it too! She is COMPLETELY justified in her actions!. But she focuses on the fear, the pain and she gives into that fear and hides from men and lives off SSD for PTSD from the trauma of the experience. Not only is she stuck in the poor area where she is more likely to be victimized again but she also is stuck. Emotionally and physically and she is NOT happy, because you cant be happy when you live your life thinking about how bad things are for you. I agree, and this is why I said people achieve IN SPITE of racism and people hold themself back BECAUSE of racism,,but neither group has any obligation to IGNORE racism exists,,, I was a victim of rape, I didnt overcome it by ignoring that it happened or not talking about it,,,JUST THE OPPOSITE,,, Yea yea I know you were raped by a white guy and I was beaten and abused by black people. Hence our extremely different views. Both fueled by our passion on the subject. |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! are you serious? so if I am being raped, and I IGNORE it , it will stop? If I am being tortured and I IGNORE it, it will stop? If a people are being systematically oppressed or terrorized and they IGNORE it, it will stop? racism doesnt end by being ignored, it just allows the racists to believe that it is how it should be because NOONE is saying any differently,,, Obviously when I say ignore a bully one would assume that you have removed yourself from the bully.......I think that's common sense. The point is this.. You have one rape victim she is sad and depressed and so she gets counseling. she works hard to work through her fears and move past the event. she is rewarded by moving on and being able to heal emotionally and be happy in life. She is able to rise above the situation because she CHOOSES to focus on the good and positive things in her life. Now take the second rape victim still sad , depressed and yea she has a reason for it too! She is COMPLETELY justified in her actions!. But she focuses on the fear, the pain and she gives into that fear and hides from men and lives off SSD for PTSD from the trauma of the experience. Not only is she stuck in the poor area where she is more likely to be victimized again but she also is stuck. Emotionally and physically and she is NOT happy, because you cant be happy when you live your life thinking about how bad things are for you. I agree, and this is why I said people achieve IN SPITE of racism and people hold themself back BECAUSE of racism,,but neither group has any obligation to IGNORE racism exists,,, I was a victim of rape, I didnt overcome it by ignoring that it happened or not talking about it,,,JUST THE OPPOSITE,,, Yea yea I know you were raped by a white guy and I was beaten and abused by black people. Hence our extremely different views. Both fueled by our passion on the subject. but I dont think white men are the 'most' sexist on the planet,,, I have also been LOVED by white men, which makes them pretty equal to everyone else in my book,,but I can look logically at the HISTORICAL context of race and race relations in america without harboring ill sentiment against any RACE in particular |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! are you serious? so if I am being raped, and I IGNORE it , it will stop? If I am being tortured and I IGNORE it, it will stop? If a people are being systematically oppressed or terrorized and they IGNORE it, it will stop? racism doesnt end by being ignored, it just allows the racists to believe that it is how it should be because NOONE is saying any differently,,, Obviously when I say ignore a bully one would assume that you have removed yourself from the bully.......I think that's common sense. The point is this.. You have one rape victim she is sad and depressed and so she gets counseling. she works hard to work through her fears and move past the event. she is rewarded by moving on and being able to heal emotionally and be happy in life. She is able to rise above the situation because she CHOOSES to focus on the good and positive things in her life. Now take the second rape victim still sad , depressed and yea she has a reason for it too! She is COMPLETELY justified in her actions!. But she focuses on the fear, the pain and she gives into that fear and hides from men and lives off SSD for PTSD from the trauma of the experience. Not only is she stuck in the poor area where she is more likely to be victimized again but she also is stuck. Emotionally and physically and she is NOT happy, because you cant be happy when you live your life thinking about how bad things are for you. I agree, and this is why I said people achieve IN SPITE of racism and people hold themself back BECAUSE of racism,,but neither group has any obligation to IGNORE racism exists,,, I was a victim of rape, I didnt overcome it by ignoring that it happened or not talking about it,,,JUST THE OPPOSITE,,, Yea yea I know you were raped by a white guy and I was beaten and abused by black people. Hence our extremely different views. Both fueled by our passion on the subject. but I dont think white men are the 'most' sexist on the planet,,, I have also been LOVED by white men, which makes them pretty equal to everyone else in my book,,but I can look logically at the HISTORICAL context of race and race relations in america without harboring ill sentiment against any RACE in particular Exactly. Just because a person is bold enough to admit and acknowledge the differences in our races and culture doesn't make them racist and it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen else where. Just because a lot of white people live in nicer areas doesn't mean some white people are not going through racism on an everyday basis. and vise verses. Thats my point in these days where poor people come in all colors and so do the wealthy one has to assume that racism hits ever social stature and ever race. To assume that in THESE DAYS that one race has it worse than another is WRONG! |
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Here is our president making a racist remark. "typical white person" He says. LOL Yet he is not racist LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms? Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared. "Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person. But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person? You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races. For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical. If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why? Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself. statements about typical dont usually go into detail about the REASONS,,, that is where racism gets its power,, peoples ability to quickly label without any attempt to honestly analyze even IF her response is typical of a person living in the city, it doesnt mean it is not ALSO typical of a majority of white people stating a correlation doesnt mean stating a causation which is why context of a conversation becomes so important I could correlate higher incarceration rates with black people, and that would be true,, but it would not mean that black people are inherently more criminal it could also be logically tied into the disparate educational and economic position of blacks in america compared to others, and the prevalence of the undereducated and the poor in the justice system I actually LOVE those types of logical conversations, but what happens too often , the association of RACE as the REASON for any number of negative things serves to distract from the root causes (often TIED to race in this country, unfortunately) which could be addressed for the advantage of all americans,,, Sorry but all one has to do is take a trip down to your local ghetto to find that what goes on there is their own fault. I lived in the ghetto for so long and they like it. They CHOOSE to SKIP school. They CHOOSE to join gangs. They CHOOSE to not get a job and live off SSD and welfare/low income/section 8, They CHOOSE to have multiple children instead of having their tubes tied like I did ! We ALL CHOOSE our life by the decisions we make! NO ONE IS A VICTIM AND IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED GET OVER IT! You cant make your life better when all you see is the bad things and how look at how people are holding you back! ghetto living is not = black living and people cannot choose what circumstance they are BORN into and what reality they are TAUGHT and life cant get better by IGNORING discrimination anymore than it can by being a VICTIM of it myself and others like me survive and succeed in SPITE of discrimination and have never needed to pretend it wasnt there or not talk about it to do so,,,, I didn't say ghetto is black living. And yes people CAN CHOOSE to change their mind about what they are TAUGHT! Yes your life will get better by IGNORING IT! Just like you are supposed to ignore bullies! When you ignore something you lend it no power!! You give them no access to you or even to an argument for that matter! If I wanted you to stop posting in this thread I would just ignore you. Eventually you are gonna stop. That's how everything works! When you yell and scream and complain and preach you make it bigger and bigger and lend ear to both sides! Even the egeyptians knew about that. If the people forget about something it's gone and eventually forgotten throughout history. But if you keep your name out there for forever you will never be forgotten and that's what your race is doing with racism. By "speaking out" and "educating " people ect.. You are actually a part of the problem. Someone hears it gets mad and kills a white person because of the racism YOU told them about. HATE BEGETS HATE, FEAR BEGETS FEAR! are you serious? so if I am being raped, and I IGNORE it , it will stop? If I am being tortured and I IGNORE it, it will stop? If a people are being systematically oppressed or terrorized and they IGNORE it, it will stop? racism doesnt end by being ignored, it just allows the racists to believe that it is how it should be because NOONE is saying any differently,,, Obviously when I say ignore a bully one would assume that you have removed yourself from the bully.......I think that's common sense. The point is this.. You have one rape victim she is sad and depressed and so she gets counseling. she works hard to work through her fears and move past the event. she is rewarded by moving on and being able to heal emotionally and be happy in life. She is able to rise above the situation because she CHOOSES to focus on the good and positive things in her life. Now take the second rape victim still sad , depressed and yea she has a reason for it too! She is COMPLETELY justified in her actions!. But she focuses on the fear, the pain and she gives into that fear and hides from men and lives off SSD for PTSD from the trauma of the experience. Not only is she stuck in the poor area where she is more likely to be victimized again but she also is stuck. Emotionally and physically and she is NOT happy, because you cant be happy when you live your life thinking about how bad things are for you. I agree, and this is why I said people achieve IN SPITE of racism and people hold themself back BECAUSE of racism,,but neither group has any obligation to IGNORE racism exists,,, I was a victim of rape, I didnt overcome it by ignoring that it happened or not talking about it,,,JUST THE OPPOSITE,,, Yea yea I know you were raped by a white guy and I was beaten and abused by black people. Hence our extremely different views. Both fueled by our passion on the subject. but I dont think white men are the 'most' sexist on the planet,,, I have also been LOVED by white men, which makes them pretty equal to everyone else in my book,,but I can look logically at the HISTORICAL context of race and race relations in america without harboring ill sentiment against any RACE in particular Exactly. Just because a person is bold enough to admit and acknowledge the differences in our races and culture doesn't make them racist and it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen else where. Just because a lot of white people live in nicer areas doesn't mean some white people are not going through racism on an everyday basis. and vise verses. Thats my point in these days where poor people come in all colors and so do the wealthy one has to assume that racism hits ever social stature and ever race. To assume that in THESE DAYS that one race has it worse than another is WRONG! there is no statement that applies to all whites or all blacks, I have and would never suggest otherwise however, there is AMPLE evidence of INSTITUTIONAL RACISM ( here I am not just speaking of slavery, but jim crow laws and unwritten hiring and educational practices, as well as good ole boy networks that have long been given the predominant power status in this country) having a more adverse affect on the economic and social status of African Americans than other 'races' |
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