Topic: cnn fires sanchez for remarks about jews
TonkaTruck3's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:08 PM
There is no thruth in that at all.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:08 PM
Can't be assuming if I SAW whiteness zoom by.slaphead

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Sat 10/02/10 06:08 PM



People who love and/or support Islamics, hate Jews.


Not true. Loving one thing never means inherently hating anything else.


not sure what the racist quote was in his interview,, I am open to anyone who has a quote available


I don't have any quotes but I can paraphrase because I happened to listen to the interview on youtube earlier today.

The main thing was that he called Jon Stewart a bigot and could not name a specific instance in which he was actually bigoted towards anyone. When the host suggested that Sanchez was perhaps still bitter about being targeted by Stewart on the Daily Show. Sanchez said that Jon was going after him because he was a Latino news anchor that was nearing his level and that Stewart only tolerates minorities as long as they stay in their place. Again, he provides no examples.

Then he claimed that CNN had held him down because he was Hispanic, stating that one of the executives at CNN (who he says are all Jewish) had likened him to another Hispanic reporter as opposed to a news anchor.

Sanchez claimed that he'd been discriminated against both times because Stewart and the exec were Jewish and he was Hispanic, even though neither of them ever said anything about that. When the host if he could think of any other possible reason why he could be getting picked on, the host was polite enough to say "I don't know," instead of "Because of the stupid words that come out of your face."



ok, so he gave an opinion about someone else being a bigot( and I think he was WAY off base with that),softened it by saying he doesnt think its intentional, and he mentioned situations where he felt discriminated against

but did HE actually say anything racist?


He did mention that he didn't believe that Jews were a minority. And that they didn't have the same kind of persecution engraved into their every day life in American like he did as a Cuban-American or like people did if they were Black or even women.

I think they took more issue with how he called Jon Stewart a bigot and said that the CNN execs were holding him down because they were Jews and he was Cuban.

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Sat 10/02/10 06:08 PM



It can be because the police targeted you for your race that you got the ticket instead of whitey doin eighty who blew by you.

Racism exists and noone can discount another person who has been discriminated against for it.]

The only people you ever hear speaking of a race card are whites.


Since We Have Our "Cards" on the table here. If the whites are the ones that pulled the"Card" Why would they do that?



there is really no logical reason for anyone to use race as a 'card',,,what does it get them,,,,,?

I think that most the time, people mention race because it has caused REAL issues in their lives and communities

I've seen both sides....one that is real..and ones i've HAD to call bull-**** on

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Sat 10/02/10 06:09 PM



It can be because the police targeted you for your race that you got the ticket instead of whitey doin eighty who blew by you.

Racism exists and noone can discount another person who has been discriminated against for it.]

The only people you ever hear speaking of a race card are whites.



this is so false it isn't even funny.

I am in the Navy and see race sides everywhere...black/hispanic/philipino and i've heard every one of them mention the race card.

and 'whitey' as in a derogatory term? really?

you ASSUME that there was someone else speeding by...and you ASSUME that he/she was white....

you do know what happens when you assume?? you make an a$$ out of u and me


If you saw "whitey" going by, I am white so I can say it, doing more than you and you get stopped and you are not white. There is a good chance it was because you were profiled.

Sorry if you don't like the truth but it is the truth.
You should not Apologize. I am not sorry by the color of my skin. In fact I am quite fond of It.

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Sat 10/02/10 06:09 PM




It can be because the police targeted you for your race that you got the ticket instead of whitey doin eighty who blew by you.

Racism exists and noone can discount another person who has been discriminated against for it.]

The only people you ever hear speaking of a race card are whites.



this is so false it isn't even funny.

I am in the Navy and see race sides everywhere...black/hispanic/philipino and i've heard every one of them mention the race card.

and 'whitey' as in a derogatory term? really?

you ASSUME that there was someone else speeding by...and you ASSUME that he/she was white....

you do know what happens when you assume?? you make an a$$ out of u and me


If you saw "whitey" going by, I am white so I can say it, doing more than you and you get stopped and you are not white. There is a good chance it was because you were profiled.

Sorry if you don't like the truth but it is the truth.

again ASSUMING....SEE ABOVE!


No assuming if I saw whitey go by.

TonkaTruck3's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:11 PM
If you saw whitey go by where??

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:11 PM




It can be because the police targeted you for your race that you got the ticket instead of whitey doin eighty who blew by you.

Racism exists and noone can discount another person who has been discriminated against for it.]

The only people you ever hear speaking of a race card are whites.


Since We Have Our "Cards" on the table here. If the whites are the ones that pulled the"Card" Why would they do that?



there is really no logical reason for anyone to use race as a 'card',,,what does it get them,,,,,?

I think that most the time, people mention race because it has caused REAL issues in their lives and communities

I've seen both sides....one that is real..and ones i've HAD to call bull-**** on



I totally understand, I call out the denial(that racism is a real issue needing to be addressed ACTIVELY through policy and practice) card quite regularly myself

not sure yet which one is played more often though,,,,( I tend to believe the denial card is,, but its hard to be objective on that one)

Dragoness's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:11 PM




It can be because the police targeted you for your race that you got the ticket instead of whitey doin eighty who blew by you.

Racism exists and noone can discount another person who has been discriminated against for it.]

The only people you ever hear speaking of a race card are whites.


Since We Have Our "Cards" on the table here. If the whites are the ones that pulled the"Card" Why would they do that?



there is really no logical reason for anyone to use race as a 'card',,,what does it get them,,,,,?

I think that most the time, people mention race because it has caused REAL issues in their lives and communities

I've seen both sides....one that is real..and ones i've HAD to call bull-**** on


Now who is making an a$$ u mption?slaphead

d24's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:13 PM





It can be because the police targeted you for your race that you got the ticket instead of whitey doin eighty who blew by you.

Racism exists and noone can discount another person who has been discriminated against for it.]

The only people you ever hear speaking of a race card are whites.


Since We Have Our "Cards" on the table here. If the whites are the ones that pulled the"Card" Why would they do that?



there is really no logical reason for anyone to use race as a 'card',,,what does it get them,,,,,?

I think that most the time, people mention race because it has caused REAL issues in their lives and communities

I've seen both sides....one that is real..and ones i've HAD to call bull-**** on


Now who is making an a$$ u mption?slaphead
I cannot help that you are not Proud of who you are.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:14 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Sat 10/02/10 06:17 PM

I cannot help that you are not Proud of who you are.


What are you talking about?

I am completely comfortable with who and what I am.

I am also aware of the things white folks do that are wrong.

Makes me unproud of some white folks for sure.

But not myself because I don't do those things to others

d24's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:16 PM
Anyways back on topic...Sanchez did'nt slay the Jews he just beat around the bush.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 10/02/10 07:45 PM
I'm white, I got pulled over supposedly becasue my front windows were tinted. They were rolled down when I got pulled over. The cop was white.

I got pulled over by a Hispanic Sheriff who wanted to know when the last time I bought Meth was. Fuqer also searched my car and found NOTHING but a tin of Altoids which to my last account are still legal. That was straight out a violation of my rights and illegal on top of that.

Some people need to pull head out of back side. Who gives a damn about profiling. Being in the wrong neighborhood and being white the cops ASSUME you are a Meth addict here in good ole LA.

damnitscloudy's photo
Sat 10/02/10 08:45 PM
I never thought Sanchez was a good news anchor. I could swear that his whole news cast was full ADD monkeys.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/03/10 12:36 AM

I'm white, I got pulled over supposedly becasue my front windows were tinted. They were rolled down when I got pulled over. The cop was white.

I got pulled over by a Hispanic Sheriff who wanted to know when the last time I bought Meth was. Fuqer also searched my car and found NOTHING but a tin of Altoids which to my last account are still legal. That was straight out a violation of my rights and illegal on top of that.

Some people need to pull head out of back side. Who gives a damn about profiling. Being in the wrong neighborhood and being white the cops ASSUME you are a Meth addict here in good ole LA.




I give a damn about profiling, since when is anyone in the 'wrong' neighborhood in america strictly because of race


some choose indifference but others choose to give a damn,, I dont begrudge people either choice

s1owhand's photo
Sun 10/03/10 02:37 AM




People who love and/or support Islamics, hate Jews.


Not true. Loving one thing never means inherently hating anything else.


not sure what the racist quote was in his interview,, I am open to anyone who has a quote available


I don't have any quotes but I can paraphrase because I happened to listen to the interview on youtube earlier today.

The main thing was that he called Jon Stewart a bigot and could not name a specific instance in which he was actually bigoted towards anyone. When the host suggested that Sanchez was perhaps still bitter about being targeted by Stewart on the Daily Show. Sanchez said that Jon was going after him because he was a Latino news anchor that was nearing his level and that Stewart only tolerates minorities as long as they stay in their place. Again, he provides no examples.

Then he claimed that CNN had held him down because he was Hispanic, stating that one of the executives at CNN (who he says are all Jewish) had likened him to another Hispanic reporter as opposed to a news anchor.

Sanchez claimed that he'd been discriminated against both times because Stewart and the exec were Jewish and he was Hispanic, even though neither of them ever said anything about that. When the host if he could think of any other possible reason why he could be getting picked on, the host was polite enough to say "I don't know," instead of "Because of the stupid words that come out of your face."



ok, so he gave an opinion about someone else being a bigot( and I think he was WAY off base with that),softened it by saying he doesnt think its intentional, and he mentioned situations where he felt discriminated against

but did HE actually say anything racist?


He did mention that he didn't believe that Jews were a minority. And that they didn't have the same kind of persecution engraved into their every day life in American like he did as a Cuban-American or like people did if they were Black or even women.

I think they took more issue with how he called Jon Stewart a bigot and said that the CNN execs were holding him down because they were Jews and he was Cuban.


laugh

That's right. It was just surprising that Sanchez who was anchoring a supposedly bonafide high profile news show on the world's premier news channel, CNN, was apparently so threatened by a comedy show host who poked fun at him. That he would take his personal grudge public and then also try to deny antisemitic persecution (which is arguably the most well documented history of persistent discrimination of all time even if it is no worse than any other discrimination)and this was just plain silly and absurd.

laugh

Sanchez went further to highlight his embarrassing inferiority complex by repeating old tired jewish conspiracy theories (jews controlling the media, jews controlling money) which are well known to be false, deny their minority status even though they are a much smaller minority than hispanics or african americans. Just not too bright for a major news anchor.

surprised For example,

The estimated Hispanic population of the United States as of July 1, 2009, was 48.4 million. This makes people of Hispanic origin the nation's largest ethnic or race minority. Hispanics constituted ~16 percent of the nation's total population. In addition, there are approximately 4 million residents of Puerto Rico, a Carribbean U.S. territory.

Only Mexico (111 million) has a larger Hispanic population than the United States (48.4 million).

As of July 1, 2008, the estimated population of black residents in the United States, was 41.1 million including those of more than one race. They made up ~13.5 percent of the total U.S. population.

Jews are defined by religion of course not by race. There are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Indian and White Jews. But the latest estimate according to the Wiki of those who identify themselves as being religiously Jewish or from a Jewish background in the U.S. is estimated at 6,489,000 or ~2.2% of the population. This is about 7 times rarer than African Americans and about 8 times rarer than Hispanic Americans.

In WWII, solely because of religious persecution, about half of the entire world population of Jews were killed. Imagine if half of the world population of Blacks were killed because of discrimination. Imagine if half of the world population of Hispanics were killed due to anti-Hispanic bias. This puts the magnitude of Rick Sanchez' gaffe in perspective.

He was undoubtedly fired for the same reason that former White House correspondent Helen Thomas was forced to resign. Their StArTlInGlY inaccurate and offensive comments were an outrageous embarrassment to themselves and their news organizations!

drinker

laugh

I wonder what is coming up on the Daily Show and the Colbert report on this...




TonkaTruck3's photo
Sun 10/03/10 04:58 AM
Its all in good sanity, right??laugh

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/03/10 09:17 AM





People who love and/or support Islamics, hate Jews.


Not true. Loving one thing never means inherently hating anything else.


not sure what the racist quote was in his interview,, I am open to anyone who has a quote available


I don't have any quotes but I can paraphrase because I happened to listen to the interview on youtube earlier today.

The main thing was that he called Jon Stewart a bigot and could not name a specific instance in which he was actually bigoted towards anyone. When the host suggested that Sanchez was perhaps still bitter about being targeted by Stewart on the Daily Show. Sanchez said that Jon was going after him because he was a Latino news anchor that was nearing his level and that Stewart only tolerates minorities as long as they stay in their place. Again, he provides no examples.

Then he claimed that CNN had held him down because he was Hispanic, stating that one of the executives at CNN (who he says are all Jewish) had likened him to another Hispanic reporter as opposed to a news anchor.

Sanchez claimed that he'd been discriminated against both times because Stewart and the exec were Jewish and he was Hispanic, even though neither of them ever said anything about that. When the host if he could think of any other possible reason why he could be getting picked on, the host was polite enough to say "I don't know," instead of "Because of the stupid words that come out of your face."



ok, so he gave an opinion about someone else being a bigot( and I think he was WAY off base with that),softened it by saying he doesnt think its intentional, and he mentioned situations where he felt discriminated against

but did HE actually say anything racist?


He did mention that he didn't believe that Jews were a minority. And that they didn't have the same kind of persecution engraved into their every day life in American like he did as a Cuban-American or like people did if they were Black or even women.

I think they took more issue with how he called Jon Stewart a bigot and said that the CNN execs were holding him down because they were Jews and he was Cuban.


laugh

That's right. It was just surprising that Sanchez who was anchoring a supposedly bonafide high profile news show on the world's premier news channel, CNN, was apparently so threatened by a comedy show host who poked fun at him. That he would take his personal grudge public and then also try to deny antisemitic persecution (which is arguably the most well documented history of persistent discrimination of all time even if it is no worse than any other discrimination)and this was just plain silly and absurd.

laugh

Sanchez went further to highlight his embarrassing inferiority complex by repeating old tired jewish conspiracy theories (jews controlling the media, jews controlling money) which are well known to be false, deny their minority status even though they are a much smaller minority than hispanics or african americans. Just not too bright for a major news anchor.

surprised For example,

The estimated Hispanic population of the United States as of July 1, 2009, was 48.4 million. This makes people of Hispanic origin the nation's largest ethnic or race minority. Hispanics constituted ~16 percent of the nation's total population. In addition, there are approximately 4 million residents of Puerto Rico, a Carribbean U.S. territory.

Only Mexico (111 million) has a larger Hispanic population than the United States (48.4 million).

As of July 1, 2008, the estimated population of black residents in the United States, was 41.1 million including those of more than one race. They made up ~13.5 percent of the total U.S. population.

Jews are defined by religion of course not by race. There are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Indian and White Jews. But the latest estimate according to the Wiki of those who identify themselves as being religiously Jewish or from a Jewish background in the U.S. is estimated at 6,489,000 or ~2.2% of the population. This is about 7 times rarer than African Americans and about 8 times rarer than Hispanic Americans.

In WWII, solely because of religious persecution, about half of the entire world population of Jews were killed. Imagine if half of the world population of Blacks were killed because of discrimination. Imagine if half of the world population of Hispanics were killed due to anti-Hispanic bias. This puts the magnitude of Rick Sanchez' gaffe in perspective.

He was undoubtedly fired for the same reason that former White House correspondent Helen Thomas was forced to resign. Their StArTlInGlY inaccurate and offensive comments were an outrageous embarrassment to themselves and their news organizations!

drinker

laugh

I wonder what is coming up on the Daily Show and the Colbert report on this...







here is the difference as I understand it,, I believe in context Sanchez was referring to AMERICA

now of course, anyone can search the WORLD history to find something awful that happened to 'their' people , but that isnt really relative to a discussion about AMerica or someones experience or history in AMERICA

in AMERICA , there isnt a history of jewish persecution which nears that of other minorities, and in fact the UN actually GAVE land to the jewish people, an intervention not taken up for the cause of other minorities,

in AMERICA , jewish people(unless they are orthodox in their outward appearance) are not a VISIBLE minority

that is to say, people who choose to lay with animals are probably a minority too but they arent persecuted because they are able to 'blend' in quite well with the normal folks

similarly, people who have chosen the jewish faith are not a VISIBLE minority, and when you consider the FINANCIAL POWER of jewish community in america it dwarfs any other minority as well, with AMerica's jewish ties lending to nearly three billion per year in aid to ISrael,,,I hardly call that persecution,,,


I also dont know when or how anyone PROVED that the media isnt predominately jewish owned


all this is irrelevant of course to why he was fired, people give misinformation or flat innacurate information daily in the media and dont loose their jobs,, his job was taken because of the reference to potential racial discrimination by HIS employer

mightymoe's photo
Sun 10/03/10 09:53 AM

It can be because the police targeted you for your race that you got the ticket instead of whitey doin eighty who blew by you.

Racism exists and noone can discount another person who has been discriminated against for it.]

The only people you ever hear speaking of a race card are whites.



your racist against white people...

mightymoe's photo
Sun 10/03/10 10:00 AM


I cannot help that you are not Proud of who you are.


What are you talking about?

I am completely comfortable with who and what I am.

I am also aware of the things white folks do that are wrong.

Makes me unproud of some white folks for sure.

But not myself because I don't do those things to others


only white folks do wrong, right?