Topic: cnn fires sanchez for remarks about jews
Rachel78745's photo
Sun 10/10/10 10:30 AM

you know you don't hear much from the asians...i wonder what they are up to,hardly a sound they never throw the race card....hmmmm


Yea there are a lot of other races here that live in poor areas that don't pull the race card.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/10/10 10:43 AM
oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths

RKISIT's photo
Sun 10/10/10 10:49 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Sun 10/10/10 10:50 AM

oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them

Rachel78745's photo
Sun 10/10/10 10:52 AM


oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them


That's because they are hard workers with a lot of pride. They wouldn't want people know they are suffering if they were. And even then they would find a way to rise above it quietly.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/10/10 10:52 AM


oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them



that could have to do with the fact they their culture is DIFFERENT than american culture,,,you probably wont hear them 'complaining' about many of those things WHITES complain about either


RKISIT's photo
Sun 10/10/10 10:53 AM
i haven't heard or seen asian complain about

not enough asians in nascar
not enough asians in hockey
not enough asians in the media
not enough asians in sports period
not enough asians in CEO positions
theres not enough asians in the miss america pagent

Rachel78745's photo
Sun 10/10/10 10:57 AM

i haven't heard or seen asian complain about

not enough asians in nascar
not enough asians in hockey
not enough asians in the media
not enough asians in sports period
not enough asians in CEO positions
theres not enough asians in the miss america pagent


You cant win, just give up. The buck stops here.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/10/10 10:59 AM

i haven't heard or seen asian complain about

not enough asians in nascar
not enough asians in hockey
not enough asians in the media
not enough asians in sports period
not enough asians in CEO positions
theres not enough asians in the miss america pagent



I repeat ASIAN CULTURE , AMERICAN CULTURE


different things,,lol

Rachel78745's photo
Sun 10/10/10 11:07 AM



oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them



that could have to do with the fact they their culture is DIFFERENT than american culture,,,you probably wont hear them 'complaining' about many of those things WHITES complain about either




At least you can admit that your "culture" complains in spite of hardships while others with the same issues choose to approach the problem from a different angle. Amazing how well they do it too huh? It's a lesson a lot of us could learn from as my father also agreed with here in this story he used to tell me when I would complain about how bad my life was.

Fun fact:
My father retired from the navy and went to work as a tub boat operator in corpus TX. When he started (in the 70's) he said there were a bunch of poor Asians that would fish out on the docks, He observed how they would eat all the fish the Americans would throw back out and they would sell everything they could. Overtime, they saved and lived sparingly and eventually opened the majority of the shops in the area. Now they dominate the tourist market there.They easily make way more over my father. They were very poor people with NO help from ANYONE, and being this is Texas you bet they had to deal with racism. Yet they prevailed. That is the story my father told me and I am telling it to you because that's how a successful person approaches life.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/10/10 11:14 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/10/10 11:14 AM




oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them



that could have to do with the fact they their culture is DIFFERENT than american culture,,,you probably wont hear them 'complaining' about many of those things WHITES complain about either




At least you can admit that your "culture" complains in spite of hardships while others with the same issues choose to approach the problem from a different angle. Amazing how well they do it too huh? It's a lesson a lot of us could learn from as my father also agreed with here in this story he used to tell me when I would complain about how bad my life was.

Fun fact:
My father retired from the navy and went to work as a tub boat operator in corpus TX. When he started (in the 70's) he said there were a bunch of poor Asians that would fish out on the docks, He observed how they would eat all the fish the Americans would throw back out and they would sell everything they could. Overtime, they saved and lived sparingly and eventually opened the majority of the shops in the area. Now they dominate the tourist market there.They easily make way more over my father. They were very poor people with NO help from ANYONE, and being this is Texas you bet they had to deal with racism. Yet they prevailed. That is the story my father told me and I am telling it to you because that's how a successful person approaches life.




read again, not MY culture, AMERICAN culture (which is predominately white americans)

and no, its not the SAME issues,, it really isnt

as I explained there is a different ECONOMIC base for asian immigrants and nowhere near the history of OPPRESSIVE treatment in America (yes I know there were camps and there is racism against all minorities),

but the difference here is that BLACKS in america were PROPERTY (asians, although discriminated against, could BUY their equality)

the difference here is that BLACKS , as a result of the segregation laws and jim crow POLICIES of US government were put at an economic disadvantage for most of their history in the STATES which lead to other disparate views about them as compared to other more 'model' minorities

the difference is when you can show that there is DISPARATE treatment of other minorities that can be linked DIRECTLY to a HISTORY of racist policies and laws,, you can compare those with african americans

until then, racism exists against all people YES, but the IMPACT of racially discriminatory and seperatist VIEWS which are reflected through laws and policies, is historically(US HISTORY, IM speaking of) more prone to be affecting BLACK americans,,, and BLACK americans have the right and responsibility to speak up about it

no photo
Sun 10/10/10 11:30 AM



Here is our president making a racist remark.

"typical white person" He says. LOL

Yet he is not racist LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related


All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms?

Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared.

"Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good.


That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person.

But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person?



You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races.

For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical.

If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why?

Rachel78745's photo
Sun 10/10/10 11:55 AM





oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them



that could have to do with the fact they their culture is DIFFERENT than american culture,,,you probably wont hear them 'complaining' about many of those things WHITES complain about either




At least you can admit that your "culture" complains in spite of hardships while others with the same issues choose to approach the problem from a different angle. Amazing how well they do it too huh? It's a lesson a lot of us could learn from as my father also agreed with here in this story he used to tell me when I would complain about how bad my life was.

Fun fact:
My father retired from the navy and went to work as a tub boat operator in corpus TX. When he started (in the 70's) he said there were a bunch of poor Asians that would fish out on the docks, He observed how they would eat all the fish the Americans would throw back out and they would sell everything they could. Overtime, they saved and lived sparingly and eventually opened the majority of the shops in the area. Now they dominate the tourist market there.They easily make way more over my father. They were very poor people with NO help from ANYONE, and being this is Texas you bet they had to deal with racism. Yet they prevailed. That is the story my father told me and I am telling it to you because that's how a successful person approaches life.




read again, not MY culture, AMERICAN culture (which is predominately white americans)

and no, its not the SAME issues,, it really isnt

as I explained there is a different ECONOMIC base for asian immigrants and nowhere near the history of OPPRESSIVE treatment in America (yes I know there were camps and there is racism against all minorities),

but the difference here is that BLACKS in america were PROPERTY (asians, although discriminated against, could BUY their equality)

the difference here is that BLACKS , as a result of the segregation laws and jim crow POLICIES of US government were put at an economic disadvantage for most of their history in the STATES which lead to other disparate views about them as compared to other more 'model' minorities

the difference is when you can show that there is DISPARATE treatment of other minorities that can be linked DIRECTLY to a HISTORY of racist policies and laws,, you can compare those with african americans

until then, racism exists against all people YES, but the IMPACT of racially discriminatory and seperatist VIEWS which are reflected through laws and policies, is historically(US HISTORY, IM speaking of) more prone to be affecting BLACK americans,,, and BLACK americans have the right and responsibility to speak up about it


LOL nope you are no victim. You just want someone else to blame. What makes the black's experience worse than the Holocaust? You think you guys had it worse? I don't think so! You don't see Jews running around crying and moaning and asking for handout and bitching and moaning about how bad their ancestors had it ! WTF??? And first of all Why are you not speaking out against Africans? Africans sold white's the slaves remember that? What have you done to stop the SAME Africans from enslaving other Africans? It's happening right now!! What are you doing bitching at us when the real problem is still happening!!?? I swear through history cultures have been killed, conquered and enslaved but YOUR culture is the only one who thinks they have a right to ***** about it for the rest of time. GET OVER IT! Hate is everywhere and racism is everywhere it's not just against you so shut up about it and be a part of the solution not the problem!

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/10/10 11:58 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/10/10 12:00 PM






oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them



that could have to do with the fact they their culture is DIFFERENT than american culture,,,you probably wont hear them 'complaining' about many of those things WHITES complain about either




At least you can admit that your "culture" complains in spite of hardships while others with the same issues choose to approach the problem from a different angle. Amazing how well they do it too huh? It's a lesson a lot of us could learn from as my father also agreed with here in this story he used to tell me when I would complain about how bad my life was.

Fun fact:
My father retired from the navy and went to work as a tub boat operator in corpus TX. When he started (in the 70's) he said there were a bunch of poor Asians that would fish out on the docks, He observed how they would eat all the fish the Americans would throw back out and they would sell everything they could. Overtime, they saved and lived sparingly and eventually opened the majority of the shops in the area. Now they dominate the tourist market there.They easily make way more over my father. They were very poor people with NO help from ANYONE, and being this is Texas you bet they had to deal with racism. Yet they prevailed. That is the story my father told me and I am telling it to you because that's how a successful person approaches life.




read again, not MY culture, AMERICAN culture (which is predominately white americans)

and no, its not the SAME issues,, it really isnt

as I explained there is a different ECONOMIC base for asian immigrants and nowhere near the history of OPPRESSIVE treatment in America (yes I know there were camps and there is racism against all minorities),

but the difference here is that BLACKS in america were PROPERTY (asians, although discriminated against, could BUY their equality)

the difference here is that BLACKS , as a result of the segregation laws and jim crow POLICIES of US government were put at an economic disadvantage for most of their history in the STATES which lead to other disparate views about them as compared to other more 'model' minorities

the difference is when you can show that there is DISPARATE treatment of other minorities that can be linked DIRECTLY to a HISTORY of racist policies and laws,, you can compare those with african americans

until then, racism exists against all people YES, but the IMPACT of racially discriminatory and seperatist VIEWS which are reflected through laws and policies, is historically(US HISTORY, IM speaking of) more prone to be affecting BLACK americans,,, and BLACK americans have the right and responsibility to speak up about it


LOL nope you are no victim. You just want someone else to blame. What makes the black's experience worse than the Holocaust? You think you guys had it worse? I don't think so! You don't see Jews running around crying and moaning and asking for handout and bitching and moaning about how bad their ancestors had it ! WTF??? And first of all Why are you not speaking out against Africans? Africans sold white's the slaves remember that? What have you done to stop the SAME Africans from enslaving other Africans? It's happening right now!! What are you doing bitching at us when the real problem is still happening!!?? I swear through history cultures have been killed, conquered and enslaved but YOUR culture is the only one who thinks they have a right to ***** about it for the rest of time. GET OVER IT! Hate is everywhere and racism is everywhere it's not just against you so shut up about it and be a part of the solution not the problem!



lol, who did I BLAME exactly, the holocaust didnt happen in AMERICA, Im sure if I were in germany,that argument would be relevant

but I was speaking in terms of the conditions in AMERICA

not in AFRICA, not in GERMANY,, AMERICA

and it may not be common knowledge, but before there can be a solution to a problem there MUST be aknowledgement that the problem exists

denial is not part of the solution,,,

'"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

so, 'just shut up and stop talking about it',, is also not a solution

no photo
Sun 10/10/10 11:58 AM
Edited by ohshizabear on Sun 10/10/10 12:00 PM


you know you don't hear much from the asians...i wonder what they are up to,hardly a sound they never throw the race card....hmmmm


Yea there are a lot of other races here that live in poor areas that don't pull the race card.


By the way, from this statement, one would gather that you believe that, typically, Asians don't pull the race card and other races are more likely to do so. That statement right there holds just as much racism and hatred as the clip from Obama that you cited. Either you're both racist and hateful, or neither statement exemplifies such things. Thank you for proving my point.

mightymoe's photo
Sun 10/10/10 11:59 AM


oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them
because Asians aren't lazy or stupid...most of them come here and use the system to their advantage... they see reality here...even after we wronged them so bad during WW2...

Rachel78745's photo
Sun 10/10/10 12:02 PM




Here is our president making a racist remark.

"typical white person" He says. LOL

Yet he is not racist LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI&feature=related


All I heard was that he acknowledged that there were differences in how people of different races perceive things because we have different experiences. At no point did he say anything bad about white people. Honestly, you would disagree with the notion that there's a number of ways that a person could act that would be considered "typical" or "atypical" in terms of social norms?

Not being racist doesn't mean that you try to pretend that everyone is the same, it more about not hating people who are different. If Rick Sanchez had simply said that he and Jon Stewart (or he and the CNN executives) had different perspectives on life because of their background, no one would have cared.

"Typical" isn't inherently mean anything bad, just like "atypical" doesn't inherently mean anything good.


That's your opinion. That's not my opinion, you see to me there is no such thing as a typical white person. Or a typical black person.

But since you agree please tell me sir, what is a typical white person?



You're taking the term out of context. We're not talking about an archetype where there's a set of defined traits. It's a general term. However, there are characteristics that a white person might typically have or responses white people typically might give in certain situations in higher percentages than other races.

For instance, white people typically wear Abercrombie more often than black people or they might typically listen to country. However, that doesn't mean that all (or even most) white people have that trait, just that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they did. It doesn't mean that black people never do those things, just that it's less typical.

If Obama had said that typically, white people in this country are more educated and create more wealth non-white people, would you take offense or call that hateful? If not, then why?



Nice so you admit that profiling works then? When it suits you. LOL But if I was to say that the womans response to the black man was a legitimate LEARNED response from all of the black crime, I bet you wont agree. LOL Truth is her response is normal and it's not just whites that feel that way. I could understand if black crime was not so high but it is. So his response is wrong and it is racist to assume her response was typical of a white person. She is a typical american who lives in the city and is aware that many black men rob and steal. Especially one that is asking for money and wouldn't leave her alone after she gave him a dollar. That is the full story BTW by Obama himself.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/10/10 12:04 PM



oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them
because Asians aren't lazy or stupid...most of them come here and use the system to their advantage... they see reality here...even after we wronged them so bad during WW2...




because Asians culture promotes DISCIPLINE instead of FREEDOM

most of them 'COME' here with an economic or educational upperhand because of the DISCIPLINE that they have come here from


Rachel78745's photo
Sun 10/10/10 12:05 PM







oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them



that could have to do with the fact they their culture is DIFFERENT than american culture,,,you probably wont hear them 'complaining' about many of those things WHITES complain about either




At least you can admit that your "culture" complains in spite of hardships while others with the same issues choose to approach the problem from a different angle. Amazing how well they do it too huh? It's a lesson a lot of us could learn from as my father also agreed with here in this story he used to tell me when I would complain about how bad my life was.

Fun fact:
My father retired from the navy and went to work as a tub boat operator in corpus TX. When he started (in the 70's) he said there were a bunch of poor Asians that would fish out on the docks, He observed how they would eat all the fish the Americans would throw back out and they would sell everything they could. Overtime, they saved and lived sparingly and eventually opened the majority of the shops in the area. Now they dominate the tourist market there.They easily make way more over my father. They were very poor people with NO help from ANYONE, and being this is Texas you bet they had to deal with racism. Yet they prevailed. That is the story my father told me and I am telling it to you because that's how a successful person approaches life.




read again, not MY culture, AMERICAN culture (which is predominately white americans)

and no, its not the SAME issues,, it really isnt

as I explained there is a different ECONOMIC base for asian immigrants and nowhere near the history of OPPRESSIVE treatment in America (yes I know there were camps and there is racism against all minorities),

but the difference here is that BLACKS in america were PROPERTY (asians, although discriminated against, could BUY their equality)

the difference here is that BLACKS , as a result of the segregation laws and jim crow POLICIES of US government were put at an economic disadvantage for most of their history in the STATES which lead to other disparate views about them as compared to other more 'model' minorities

the difference is when you can show that there is DISPARATE treatment of other minorities that can be linked DIRECTLY to a HISTORY of racist policies and laws,, you can compare those with african americans

until then, racism exists against all people YES, but the IMPACT of racially discriminatory and seperatist VIEWS which are reflected through laws and policies, is historically(US HISTORY, IM speaking of) more prone to be affecting BLACK americans,,, and BLACK americans have the right and responsibility to speak up about it


LOL nope you are no victim. You just want someone else to blame. What makes the black's experience worse than the Holocaust? You think you guys had it worse? I don't think so! You don't see Jews running around crying and moaning and asking for handout and bitching and moaning about how bad their ancestors had it ! WTF??? And first of all Why are you not speaking out against Africans? Africans sold white's the slaves remember that? What have you done to stop the SAME Africans from enslaving other Africans? It's happening right now!! What are you doing bitching at us when the real problem is still happening!!?? I swear through history cultures have been killed, conquered and enslaved but YOUR culture is the only one who thinks they have a right to ***** about it for the rest of time. GET OVER IT! Hate is everywhere and racism is everywhere it's not just against you so shut up about it and be a part of the solution not the problem!



lol, who did I BLAME exactly, the holocaust didnt happen in AMERICA, Im sure if I were in germany,that argument would be relevant

but I was speaking in terms of the conditions in AMERICA

not in AFRICA, not in GERMANY,, AMERICA

and it may not be common knowledge, but before there can be a solution to a problem there MUST be aknowledgement that the problem exists

denial is not part of the solution,,,

'"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

so, 'just shut up and stop talking about it',, is also not a solution


Thats my point!! It has happened EVERYWHERE on this entire planet! One could argue it's in our very nature! Yet NO ONE BUT YA'LL ARE BITCHING!! I have NEVER heard a Jew say ANYTHING bad about Germans of today !Only you guys want to blame the CURRENT culture for the wrongs of OTHER PEOPLE!!!

mightymoe's photo
Sun 10/10/10 12:07 PM





oh yeah, I forgot

a majority of white americans believe the 'model minority' myths
i'm not sayin theres no racist asians but you don't here much complaining from them



that could have to do with the fact they their culture is DIFFERENT than american culture,,,you probably wont hear them 'complaining' about many of those things WHITES complain about either




At least you can admit that your "culture" complains in spite of hardships while others with the same issues choose to approach the problem from a different angle. Amazing how well they do it too huh? It's a lesson a lot of us could learn from as my father also agreed with here in this story he used to tell me when I would complain about how bad my life was.

Fun fact:
My father retired from the navy and went to work as a tub boat operator in corpus TX. When he started (in the 70's) he said there were a bunch of poor Asians that would fish out on the docks, He observed how they would eat all the fish the Americans would throw back out and they would sell everything they could. Overtime, they saved and lived sparingly and eventually opened the majority of the shops in the area. Now they dominate the tourist market there.They easily make way more over my father. They were very poor people with NO help from ANYONE, and being this is Texas you bet they had to deal with racism. Yet they prevailed. That is the story my father told me and I am telling it to you because that's how a successful person approaches life.




read again, not MY culture, AMERICAN culture (which is predominately white americans)

and no, its not the SAME issues,, it really isnt

as I explained there is a different ECONOMIC base for asian immigrants and nowhere near the history of OPPRESSIVE treatment in America (yes I know there were camps and there is racism against all minorities),

but the difference here is that BLACKS in america were PROPERTY (asians, although discriminated against, could BUY their equality)

the difference here is that BLACKS , as a result of the segregation laws and jim crow POLICIES of US government were put at an economic disadvantage for most of their history in the STATES which lead to other disparate views about them as compared to other more 'model' minorities

the difference is when you can show that there is DISPARATE treatment of other minorities that can be linked DIRECTLY to a HISTORY of racist policies and laws,, you can compare those with african americans

until then, racism exists against all people YES, but the IMPACT of racially discriminatory and seperatist VIEWS which are reflected through laws and policies, is historically(US HISTORY, IM speaking of) more prone to be affecting BLACK americans,,, and BLACK americans have the right and responsibility to speak up about it

Asians were just as used as black folks were, if not worse...just not as long...who built the entire railroad system in America as forced labor? what did the Americans do to the Asians during WW2?
Who mined most of the resources in the west in the 1800's? They more than enough reason to complain, but they are smart enough to know they have it better here than anywhere else...

Rachel78745's photo
Sun 10/10/10 12:08 PM



you know you don't hear much from the asians...i wonder what they are up to,hardly a sound they never throw the race card....hmmmm


Yea there are a lot of other races here that live in poor areas that don't pull the race card.


By the way, from this statement, one would gather that you believe that, typically, Asians don't pull the race card and other races are more likely to do so. That statement right there holds just as much racism and hatred as the clip from Obama that you cited. Either you're both racist and hateful, or neither statement exemplifies such things. Thank you for proving my point.


I fully admitted I could be a racist due to my thoughts. If that's the case oh well. If recognizing racial differences makes me a racist then ok. So me and Obama are racists :laughing: Still doesn't stop me from having black friends and it doesn't make me treat black people differently.