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 I'm helping the folks at Conservapedia rewrite the bible
use blue crayon....that helps me 
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and then again there is a difference between a non Christian (or atheist) and an anti-Christian a anti-Christian is ALWAYS gonna look for the most negative to deride the religious, in which case there ceases to be any discussion and then just becomes competing rants Considering that all non Christians are not atheists and all non religious are not atheists. I am not anti Christian, I am anti any religion in government, making laws of any kind to govern us all. Christianity just happens to be the most active in imposition in this country. |
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I'm helping the folks at Conservapedia rewrite the bible
use blue crayon....that helps me
 Im pretending to be a christian conservative on there but I am putting secret liberal messages in the new bible we are creating
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I'm helping the folks at Conservapedia rewrite the bible
use blue crayon....that helps me
Im pretending to be a christian conservative on there but I am putting secret liberal messages in the new bible we are creating
well I'm Christian and I lean more toward conservative...but I won't be buying this Bible don't use yellow because it's hard to read 
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ITs not always about hate or intolerance. I dont think people hate adults but we impose upon them a law that they may only have sex with a certain BIOLIGICAL age of person. I dont think we hate siblings, but we impose a law that they may not marry each other as well. Beliefs are a part of life and not always about religion. Beliefs are what are posted in these forums everyday by spiritual and non spiritual people. IT is because we are in a free country that we can speak and vote on just that what we BELIEVE is best. I think it is far too simplistic to blame any religion for their government or the way the majority chooses to vote on any issue. WE do allow people to sleep with whom they chose. But marriage is more than just who you chose to sleep with it is much more complex issue. I am for equal rights and civil rights, I dont believe that committed people should have any fewer rights than married couples anymore than I believe a woman should have fewer rights than a man. But, due to bioloty, a marital couple is different than a committed couple and a woman is different than a man. I just dont want to confuse those things and toss them aside as irrelevant or hateful or intolerant. WE all are here because of a man and a woman, i dont think the significance of that BIOLOGICAL bond that has been legally recognized as marriage needs to be thinnned out to include other relationship choices just so people can have civil rights. I will fight for partners of every type to have equal rights to marital partners, but not for marital partners to be defined as partners of every type. Your belief and therefore you should not marry a woman but you should not impose that belief on others who do not believe that way, right? You keep saying it is unnatural. That is degrading to the couples who are not man and woman. 
Mami, I am not saying anything about natural or unnatural, I am talking about BIOLOGY. What makes some men and some women, some tall and some short,,biology. I am not degrading anyone as I have said I do believe that couples of all sorts should have the RIGHTS a marital couple does. I am defending the definition of the MARRIAGE COUPLE. Just like I wouldnt support a push to start calling female tomboys males because they do the same things guys do..biologically, they are still female. Dont think I can explain this any further. My loved one is gay, I also have a loved one who runs porn, as a christian, I dont agree with either thing BUT as a christian I still love them both and see them as no less than I because a true christian knows we all fall short ( I have shortcomings too). I just dont think people should have to ignore those things that are important to them to avoid being labeled as bigot. Nowhere have I said homosexuals are unnatural or less than anyone else. I am not hateful, fearful , or intolerant of any people, whatever sexual or intimate relationships they participate in. IT would not make sense to be. I dont hate those who lie, or who say hurtful things, I dont hate those who commit adultery, I dont hate those who covet. All these things are shortcomings but make noone any less human. I see promiscuity, adultery, and homosexual LIFESTYLES as shortcomings but the people involved in them are no better or worse than I am. WE are all human but we do have to agree upon some standards, I am sorry that you see that as a bad thing or something Christians have imposed. and , like a TRUE christian,,, I still love ya dragon,,,lol Biology is a nature and agaisnt "biology" is unnatural and that is a problem. You can feel how you want and believe whatever you want. Do not be promiscuious if you feel it is wrong, do not be gay if you feel is is wrong, do not do adulter if you feel it is wrong but do not impose those beliefs on all others. It just isn't right to do so. |
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Edited by
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Come and help put secret messages in the new bible, my liberal "comrades"
http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project |
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and then again there is a difference between a non Christian (or atheist) and an anti-Christian a anti-Christian is ALWAYS gonna look for the most negative to deride the religious, in which case there ceases to be any discussion and then just becomes competing rants Considering that all non Christians are not atheists and all non religious are not atheists. I am not anti Christian, I am anti any religion in government, making laws of any kind to govern us all. Christianity just happens to be the most active in imposition in this country. including the president and other members of congress right? |
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ITs not always about hate or intolerance. I dont think people hate adults but we impose upon them a law that they may only have sex with a certain BIOLIGICAL age of person. I dont think we hate siblings, but we impose a law that they may not marry each other as well. Beliefs are a part of life and not always about religion. Beliefs are what are posted in these forums everyday by spiritual and non spiritual people. IT is because we are in a free country that we can speak and vote on just that what we BELIEVE is best. I think it is far too simplistic to blame any religion for their government or the way the majority chooses to vote on any issue. WE do allow people to sleep with whom they chose. But marriage is more than just who you chose to sleep with it is much more complex issue. I am for equal rights and civil rights, I dont believe that committed people should have any fewer rights than married couples anymore than I believe a woman should have fewer rights than a man. But, due to bioloty, a marital couple is different than a committed couple and a woman is different than a man. I just dont want to confuse those things and toss them aside as irrelevant or hateful or intolerant. WE all are here because of a man and a woman, i dont think the significance of that BIOLOGICAL bond that has been legally recognized as marriage needs to be thinnned out to include other relationship choices just so people can have civil rights. I will fight for partners of every type to have equal rights to marital partners, but not for marital partners to be defined as partners of every type. Your belief and therefore you should not marry a woman but you should not impose that belief on others who do not believe that way, right? You keep saying it is unnatural. That is degrading to the couples who are not man and woman.
Mami, I am not saying anything about natural or unnatural, I am talking about BIOLOGY. What makes some men and some women, some tall and some short,,biology. I am not degrading anyone as I have said I do believe that couples of all sorts should have the RIGHTS a marital couple does. I am defending the definition of the MARRIAGE COUPLE. Just like I wouldnt support a push to start calling female tomboys males because they do the same things guys do..biologically, they are still female. Dont think I can explain this any further. My loved one is gay, I also have a loved one who runs porn, as a christian, I dont agree with either thing BUT as a christian I still love them both and see them as no less than I because a true christian knows we all fall short ( I have shortcomings too). I just dont think people should have to ignore those things that are important to them to avoid being labeled as bigot. Nowhere have I said homosexuals are unnatural or less than anyone else. I am not hateful, fearful , or intolerant of any people, whatever sexual or intimate relationships they participate in. IT would not make sense to be. I dont hate those who lie, or who say hurtful things, I dont hate those who commit adultery, I dont hate those who covet. All these things are shortcomings but make noone any less human. I see promiscuity, adultery, and homosexual LIFESTYLES as shortcomings but the people involved in them are no better or worse than I am. WE are all human but we do have to agree upon some standards, I am sorry that you see that as a bad thing or something Christians have imposed. and , like a TRUE christian,,, I still love ya dragon,,,lol I may be homosexual but I damn well am 'NOT' a shortcoming because your religion says so. And I really dislike when so called well meaning folks equate us with thieves and adulterers and murderers and bestiality and on an on. You see marriage as defined one way. You don't want us to be in that same category because we don't live up to your definition of a marital couple? You say how much you love as a Christian and still insult us at the very same time. I don't think it's intentional, but it sure it upsetting. Thankfully I know not all Christians believe this, but the majority do, they they are the ones I am most at issue with. And the minority that dont' think this way rarely stand up when they should or could, that is why were are still dealing with this after so many many many decades. |
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I'm helping the folks at Conservapedia rewrite the bible
use blue crayon....that helps me
Im pretending to be a christian conservative on there but I am putting secret liberal messages in the new bible we are creating
According to them it is already laden with the liberal evil...lol I never thought I would see the day when a conservative would call the bible evil in it's form....lol |
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Edited by
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and then again there is a difference between a non Christian (or atheist) and an anti-Christian a anti-Christian is ALWAYS gonna look for the most negative to deride the religious, in which case there ceases to be any discussion and then just becomes competing rants Considering that all non Christians are not atheists and all non religious are not atheists. I am not anti Christian, I am anti any religion in government, making laws of any kind to govern us all. Christianity just happens to be the most active in imposition in this country. I wasnt implying non christians are atheist. I said "or" atheist, just trying to be inclusive and we dont have anybody making Christian laws. we have people voting for what they want. same as people vote to keep pot illegal. it just happens that the majority are voting their own personal ethics and just because someone in the minority doesnt make them wrong or right. it just is EDIT: as for the OP I think if you find the bible too liberal then you are prolly living your life too conservatively. and if you find it too conservative then vice versa that of course I would only apply to Christians who purport to follow the bible, not the population at large |
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Everyone can vote their conscience and express their beliefs, unless you are a Christian, then you are forcing your beliefs down everyone's throats.
The world would be a better place if people actually thought about things. |
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and then again there is a difference between a non Christian (or atheist) and an anti-Christian a anti-Christian is ALWAYS gonna look for the most negative to deride the religious, in which case there ceases to be any discussion and then just becomes competing rants Considering that all non Christians are not atheists and all non religious are not atheists. I am not anti Christian, I am anti any religion in government, making laws of any kind to govern us all. Christianity just happens to be the most active in imposition in this country. including the president and other members of congress right? Hell yea. |
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http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project
Just look at this! These people are admiting that the original bible has liberal messages in it
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I'm helping the folks at Conservapedia rewrite the bible
use blue crayon....that helps me
See Yellow my definition of Liberal was 100% correct. Liberals believe in attacking by numbers and as I have been reading through your earlier post I noticed that you were being attacked by the herd of crazy liberal conspiracy theory thinking group of atheist. And yes, your friend is right by the way...gays should not marry and your not born gay...it's a choice. I can personal care less if your gay or not but they shouldn't :) |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Thu 10/08/09 12:35 PM
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I'm helping the folks at Conservapedia rewrite the bible
use blue crayon....that helps me
Im pretending to be a christian conservative on there but I am putting secret liberal messages in the new bible we are creating
According to them it is already laden with the liberal evil...lol I never thought I would see the day when a conservative would call the bible evil in it's form....lol  I know. Thats what I am saying. These people (at Conservapedia) are admitting that the bible in it original form has liberal messages in it
http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project |
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ITs not always about hate or intolerance. I dont think people hate adults but we impose upon them a law that they may only have sex with a certain BIOLIGICAL age of person. I dont think we hate siblings, but we impose a law that they may not marry each other as well. Beliefs are a part of life and not always about religion. Beliefs are what are posted in these forums everyday by spiritual and non spiritual people. IT is because we are in a free country that we can speak and vote on just that what we BELIEVE is best. I think it is far too simplistic to blame any religion for their government or the way the majority chooses to vote on any issue. WE do allow people to sleep with whom they chose. But marriage is more than just who you chose to sleep with it is much more complex issue. I am for equal rights and civil rights, I dont believe that committed people should have any fewer rights than married couples anymore than I believe a woman should have fewer rights than a man. But, due to bioloty, a marital couple is different than a committed couple and a woman is different than a man. I just dont want to confuse those things and toss them aside as irrelevant or hateful or intolerant. WE all are here because of a man and a woman, i dont think the significance of that BIOLOGICAL bond that has been legally recognized as marriage needs to be thinnned out to include other relationship choices just so people can have civil rights. I will fight for partners of every type to have equal rights to marital partners, but not for marital partners to be defined as partners of every type. Your belief and therefore you should not marry a woman but you should not impose that belief on others who do not believe that way, right? You keep saying it is unnatural. That is degrading to the couples who are not man and woman.
Mami, I am not saying anything about natural or unnatural, I am talking about BIOLOGY. What makes some men and some women, some tall and some short,,biology. I am not degrading anyone as I have said I do believe that couples of all sorts should have the RIGHTS a marital couple does. I am defending the definition of the MARRIAGE COUPLE. Just like I wouldnt support a push to start calling female tomboys males because they do the same things guys do..biologically, they are still female. Dont think I can explain this any further. My loved one is gay, I also have a loved one who runs porn, as a christian, I dont agree with either thing BUT as a christian I still love them both and see them as no less than I because a true christian knows we all fall short ( I have shortcomings too). I just dont think people should have to ignore those things that are important to them to avoid being labeled as bigot. Nowhere have I said homosexuals are unnatural or less than anyone else. I am not hateful, fearful , or intolerant of any people, whatever sexual or intimate relationships they participate in. IT would not make sense to be. I dont hate those who lie, or who say hurtful things, I dont hate those who commit adultery, I dont hate those who covet. All these things are shortcomings but make noone any less human. I see promiscuity, adultery, and homosexual LIFESTYLES as shortcomings but the people involved in them are no better or worse than I am. WE are all human but we do have to agree upon some standards, I am sorry that you see that as a bad thing or something Christians have imposed. and , like a TRUE christian,,, I still love ya dragon,,,lol I may be homosexual but I damn well am 'NOT' a shortcoming because your religion says so. And I really dislike when so called well meaning folks equate us with thieves and adulterers and murderers and bestiality and on an on. You see marriage as defined one way. You don't want us to be in that same category because we don't live up to your definition of a marital couple? You say how much you love as a Christian and still insult us at the very same time. I don't think it's intentional, but it sure it upsetting. Thankfully I know not all Christians believe this, but the majority do, they they are the ones I am most at issue with. And the minority that dont' think this way rarely stand up when they should or could, that is why were are still dealing with this after so many many many decades. I hate to be a quitter, but after this, I give. I didnt compare homosexuality to beastiality or theivery or murder. THose are very different choices. Choices of the heart are a different matter. Those who love children, those who love family members, those who love the same sex. THose are comparitable challenges in my eyes. WE all have shortcomings, including myself, and I am sorry you see that statement of fact as an insult. It would surprise you to know that I am bisexual at heart. I have fallen for a married man as well. These were difficult matters of the heart. The issue is how one ACTS upon them. In my lifestyle, I make the choice of who I will be with that considers more than what I feel or who I love. Its not always easy and I dont always make the best choice but I acknowledge that and acknowledging that in others is not an intention to insult or belittle them but to expose how similar our struggles are. |
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and then again there is a difference between a non Christian (or atheist) and an anti-Christian a anti-Christian is ALWAYS gonna look for the most negative to deride the religious, in which case there ceases to be any discussion and then just becomes competing rants Considering that all non Christians are not atheists and all non religious are not atheists. I am not anti Christian, I am anti any religion in government, making laws of any kind to govern us all. Christianity just happens to be the most active in imposition in this country. including the president and other members of congress right? Hell yea. then we must get him out of there right???? I mean he attended a church with an extremist preacher...so he must have those thinkings too right??? not to mention he has a chair in the UN security council. but who do we replace them with??? atheists???? the supreme court ruled it's a religion and there are extremists there too |
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I'm helping the folks at Conservapedia rewrite the bible
use blue crayon....that helps me
Im pretending to be a christian conservative on there but I am putting secret liberal messages in the new bible we are creating
According to them it is already laden with the liberal evil...lol I never thought I would see the day when a conservative would call the bible evil in it's form....lol I know. Thats what I am saying. These people are (at Conservapedia)admitting that the bible in it original form has liberal messages in it
http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project I still say, if the bible is too liberal then you are too conservative and if the bible is too conservative then you are too liberal you don't change the bible to suit your politics you change your politics to suit the bible with the disclaimer that that would only apply to Christians who follow the bible |
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I'm helping the folks at Conservapedia rewrite the bible
use blue crayon....that helps me
See Yellow my definition of Liberal was 100% correct. Liberals believe in attacking by numbers and as I have been reading through your earlier post I noticed that you were being attacked by the herd of crazy liberal conspiracy theory thinking group of atheist. And yes, your friend is right by the way...gays should not marry and your not born gay...it's a choice. I can personal care less if your gay or not but they shouldn't :) now I agree to a point. my sister is liberal and is the last to act the way some in here do. I call the others convenient liberals as far as my friend...that is her belief but my point was she is wiccan not Christian. I personally could care less what others do. as long as laws aren't broken and it doesn't affect my life or my loved ones....go for it *edit* as far as being attacked...this ain't my first rodeo and I actually think it's funny |
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and then again there is a difference between a non Christian (or atheist) and an anti-Christian a anti-Christian is ALWAYS gonna look for the most negative to deride the religious, in which case there ceases to be any discussion and then just becomes competing rants Considering that all non Christians are not atheists and all non religious are not atheists. I am not anti Christian, I am anti any religion in government, making laws of any kind to govern us all. Christianity just happens to be the most active in imposition in this country. I wasnt implying non christians are atheist. I said "or" atheist, just trying to be inclusive and we dont have anybody making Christian laws. we have people voting for what they want. same as people vote to keep pot illegal. it just happens that the majority are voting their own personal ethics and just because someone in the minority doesnt make them wrong or right. it just is EDIT: as for the OP I think if you find the bible too liberal then you are prolly living your life too conservatively. and if you find it too conservative then vice versa that of course I would only apply to Christians who purport to follow the bible, not the population at large But it is not "just is", it effects the human rights of people of this country. They suffer the bigotry of the "majority" of religious in this country at no fault of their own. Gay couples wanting to be married hurts noone. Harms nothing. Effects heterosexuals not at all, if gays were to marry each other. And yet, the religious in this country will not allow them to do what is in their hearts to do. |
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