well this is my big post on mingle hope i get a good response!!

patriotism the word itself tells us that a person should be proud of his/her country . but my question is why? doesn't it evoke prejudice towards a person of the same nationality. shouldn't a person be judged only on the bases or his/her merit should we join UN peacekeeping forces instead of armies. what is even more surprising is the way people openly discriminate on this grounds. i am from india and it is one of the most patriotic country which is Hippocratic as they will cheer india in any sport despite no knowledge but still will not pay tax and other things as follows rules. now it's not respecting your country that is a problem when i say i am not proud to be an indian doesnt mean that i am ashamed to be one. sure i would no doubt prefer to be born in a country like the US. so give me your views people i would prefer any response which add to my understanding of the world.

thank you

ah, but what if Pakistan were to launch a full scale attack against India?

would you be patriotic then?

depends who is right if Pakistan have a legit reason i will suppr\ort them and stand against india.
my point being i will stand by that side which according to me is the right one not just making decisions on the fact of which part of land i am from.

I think really its just inherent to human nature

even human culture at its simplest. tribes along the amazon who have never encountered civilization at all still compete and consider themselves better than the neighboring tribes.

even chimpanzees tribes fight wars with other chimpanzee tribes

yes but haven't we evolved enough to suppress such things !!

To me, not respecting one's country means that one is ashamed of it.

The country that I live in is MY country. I respect it and want the best for it. I respect my country and want it to succeed.

That does not mean that I feel prejudice against other countries.

then why do you respect it?

their is a difference in being proud neutral and being ashamed which are you?

I respect it because it's mine. I am proud of where I'm from. I would think that you would be proud of where you're from too.

If I did not have this respect and pride, why would I even care if people litter or don't take care of the land or each other? Why would I care what happens to my country?

sorry for double posting please ignore the first line of my previous post

my question is should we support our country if it in our own views is wrong but we overlook it due to patriotism

I would support it and try to make it better. It's the only country that I have. I want it to be good for future generations.

i have to say i haven't made my point clear to you. people should not involve from where they are affect their judgment they should be able to call there country inferior or wrong when it is

you interview 2 people for a job the 1 candidate is from your own country and the other is from another place. my knowledge says a person makes one out of 3 choices

3 options:-

patriot- will select the candidate from his own country even if he/she is inferior to the other candidate

neutral-will select the better candidate no matter what

ashamed-will select the other candidate even if he/she is inferior to the other candidate

so which option would you choose?

Being patriotic has nothing to do with being proud of the individuals that live there. Its about your country.

I dont even have the slightest clue what your talking about.


Be proud of what you want to be proud of, and dont worry about what people think about what you believe.


If someone doesnt like it.. good news.. theres a billion more who possibly believe the same way you do. And.. since your from India.. your lucky not in shortage of new people to relate to.


Have a hot dog, or a curry, and chill out.

I agree with you and I am an American. We here have arguments over patriotism, some groups think someone is Unpatriotic if they are against war. Some groups think you are Unpatriotic if you believe a war is unjustified. It's crazy in my opinion so I would one of those called unpatriotic. I am frankly pretty sick of the word at this point because of all the arguments over it and political groups using it to define themselves and others.

Winx, I know people that are all patriotic all the time but litter even in their own homes, I don't' think patriotism has anything to do with how one keeps house or respects their environment.

I respect my environment, and appreciate it when others do as well. I appreciate safe and clean roads etc. I do understand what sahil is talking about. I never understood white pride, gay pride, ultra patriotism as I call it. Its typically a way of saying to other groups that may not like us, scr%w you, I'm proud to be a KKK member. Makes no sense to me. JMO

And the U.S is inferior to what? Your generalizations arent going to get you far anywhere. If someone doesnt pick you for a job, it may not be fair.. but there are other employers. The U.S employs so many people in India its scary.. it takes jobs from us.. so please.. just find someone else who will hire you, and stop complaining.

i disagree, people do treat people differently if he is from the same piece of land forget patriotism just answer this do you treat people differ or have double standards when it involes 2 countries out of which 1 is your own

reason for post-seen enough discrimination , read in history how people are fooled into fighting for an individuals goals by using patriotism

He doesn't appear to be upset so why tell him to chill out. He has a valid point and is sharing it respectfully, even if you didn't quite catch it. No?

Neutral.

No I dont. Patriotisim is not the only reason why people fight for their country. We also have education requirements for getting iinto our military.

i never said that US was inferior where did you get that from?. even when i had this debate in school i said that their is a greater chance that us will select the neutral option rather my own country.i am not blaming anyone just asking for your views