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If someone wants my ip addy...they will find it..it matters not if they are law or perv. A hacker will find anything. So, I know full well that when I open up and type...I am out there for all to see. That is the very reason I am very careful what I say. I KNOW that a key word will open me up to someones eye. There have been times I wanted to say something about somebody...but didnt because I knew it would and could get the attention of a man or woman of legal stature. I know when I turn on this pc, I am out there....every single thing typed is saved somewhere. Therefore I know that there is always that chance of everything I have said on here or any site I have been on can have anothers attention. Look at the news...employers are now watching our communication to see if we are the type they would want to employ. Kat Yes, employers can watch how employees use company equipment on company time. That is nothing new nor is it a secret, it is the companies property and employees must abide by their rules or work elsewhere. (choice  )
I am concerned about my rights as a private citizen, nothing more, not making excuses for anyone who breaks the law. I just ask when I am curious or want to find out info. No no no no....it was said that POTENTIAL employers could look at your stuff. They have been telling teeners to think before posting cause it is a potential threat for their own livelyhood where getting a job is on the line. I also saw where large companies admit to using it to their advantage. They warned them to be very careful...because they most likely will search them out. Kat |
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The FBI has recently adopted a novel investigative technique: posting hyperlinks that purport to be illegal videos of minors having sex, and then raiding the homes of anyone willing to click on them. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html they could have done a sting in the OP Said hyperlink can be copied and pasted and disguised without ever opening it. Sounds like a good way to get back at an ex. Click here for some nudes pics of Brittany Spears, next thing you know FBI are beating down the door. 
 Brittany isn't a minor now
The illegal pics are not of brittany, but her alleged legal nude pics are the bait. welcome to da gutta Thomas and Rose - where we float 
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The FBI has recently adopted a novel investigative technique: posting hyperlinks that purport to be illegal videos of minors having sex, and then raiding the homes of anyone willing to click on them. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html they could have done a sting in the OP Said hyperlink can be copied and pasted and disguised without ever opening it. Sounds like a good way to get back at an ex. Click here for some nudes pics of Brittany Spears, next thing you know FBI are beating down the door.
Brittany isn't a minor now
The illegal pics are not of brittany, but her alleged legal nude pics are the bait. that could be entrapment if they are catching child porners. |
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I read the cnet article. Personally, I don't think its entrapment. I don't know a whole lot about computers. However, how else are you going to catch people exchanging kid porn? I think distributing links on well known sites that traffic kid porn, is not putting out the honeypot. If the site is 'risky' then why would you be on it. Again Tanya not condoning any illegal acts but asking. Entrapment is the act of a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense which should be illegal and the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.[1] In many jurisdictions, entrapment is a possible defense against criminal guilt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment As to why if the site says "risky" why would I want to be on it, that's an assumption. What makes you think that all sites say risky? say adult material? say anything of the sort? If you read the cnet article, they stated that they posted a link with description that it was child porn in a chat room where child porn is frequently exchanged. How is it entrapment, when its a known child porn 'place' and they had the option to click on it. Granted there are accidents when clicking online. But still. They would have to prove the offender knew it was a known hang out for pedos and that he believed the link he clicked to be kiddie porn. |
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If someone wants my ip addy...they will find it..it matters not if they are law or perv. A hacker will find anything. So, I know full well that when I open up and type...I am out there for all to see. That is the very reason I am very careful what I say. I KNOW that a key word will open me up to someones eye. There have been times I wanted to say something about somebody...but didnt because I knew it would and could get the attention of a man or woman of legal stature. I know when I turn on this pc, I am out there....every single thing typed is saved somewhere. Therefore I know that there is always that chance of everything I have said on here or any site I have been on can have anothers attention. Look at the news...employers are now watching our communication to see if we are the type they would want to employ. Kat Yes, employers can watch how employees use company equipment on company time. That is nothing new nor is it a secret, it is the companies property and employees must abide by their rules or work elsewhere. (choice )
I am concerned about my rights as a private citizen, nothing more, not making excuses for anyone who breaks the law. I just ask when I am curious or want to find out info. No no no no....it was said that POTENTIAL employers could look at your stuff. They have been telling teeners to think before posting cause it is a potential threat for their own livelyhood where getting a job is on the line. I also saw where large companies admit to using it to their advantage. They warned them to be very careful...because they most likely will search them out. Kat who is this "they"??? Is my employer allowed to see what is on my terminal while I am working? Generally, yes. Since the employer owns the computer network and the terminals, he or she is free to use them to monitor employees. Employees are given some protection from computer and other forms of electronic monitoring under certain circumstances. Union contracts, for example, may limit the employer's right to monitor. Also, public sector employees may have some minimal rights under the United States Constitution, in particular the Fourth Amendment which safeguards against unreasonable search and seizure. There may be some additional rights for employees in California given specific statutes of that state. See the paper by Los Angeles attorneys John Caragozian and Donald Warner, Jr., titled "Privacy Rights of Employees Using Workplace Computers in California," published in 2000. http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs7-work.htm#3a |
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I read the cnet article. Personally, I don't think its entrapment. I don't know a whole lot about computers. However, how else are you going to catch people exchanging kid porn? I think distributing links on well known sites that traffic kid porn, is not putting out the honeypot. If the site is 'risky' then why would you be on it. Again Tanya not condoning any illegal acts but asking. Entrapment is the act of a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense which should be illegal and the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.[1] In many jurisdictions, entrapment is a possible defense against criminal guilt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment As to why if the site says "risky" why would I want to be on it, that's an assumption. What makes you think that all sites say risky? say adult material? say anything of the sort? If you read the cnet article, they stated that they posted a link with description that it was child porn in a chat room where child porn is frequently exchanged. How is it entrapment, when its a known child porn 'place' and they had the option to click on it. Granted there are accidents when clicking online. But still. tanya - dont take this personally links can be named at will - all links do not reflect the actual url, have you ever received an email from a friend saying click here (hyperlink) it is done. I question authority have most of my life as for it's being a known child porn 'place' Tanya that's to be determined, as I question the other side states (follow )
I understand that, however, in the cnet article it states that they labeled the link as 4yo with father (anal, oral)... if that doesn't scream child porn and you click that link than I don't know. |
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tanya please provide cnet article link (now please be sure it's the right link) just kidding
I'd like to read it 
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tanya please provide cnet article link (now please be sure it's the right link) just kidding
I'd like to read it
The link that someone provided earlier. |
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Everywhere I see where I have been...it gives the exact amount of time opened and time spent. If it is an accidental click or whatever...then it is timeframed. If they need to look at said pc; they will determine if one has been on that site before. How much time envolved and much more.
I have been duped by bogus sites....clicked out of them almost without looking. I want nothing to do with them. I dont have to sit and look at them to know I want out FAST. If they question the guilt or innocence, it will be by dumping the pc in question and knowing if they are guilty. I know if someone in my home was downloading such crap, I would want them to see in my pc to know I had nothing to do with anything of such filth and disgust. If I ever found out someone did anything remotely like this, in around or on my pc, or network...they better get them before I do. Kat |
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The FBI has recently adopted a novel investigative technique: posting hyperlinks that purport to be illegal videos of minors having sex, and then raiding the homes of anyone willing to click on them.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html they could have done a sting in the OP |
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Everywhere I see where I have been...it gives the exact amount of time opened and time spent. If it is an accidental click or whatever...then it is timeframed. If they need to look at said pc; they will determine if one has been on that site before. How much time envolved and much more. I have been duped by bogus sites....clicked out of them almost without looking. I want nothing to do with them. I dont have to sit and look at them to know I want out FAST. If they question the guilt or innocence, it will be by dumping the pc in question and knowing if they are guilty. I know if someone in my home was downloading such crap, I would want them to see in my pc to know I had nothing to do with anything of such filth and disgust. If I ever found out someone did anything remotely like this, in around or on my pc, or network...they better get them before I do. Kat makes absolute sense and I agree just in a curious mode today |
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fran...we know what else floats
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 They shouldnt have thr right to search everyones elses computers just to get one person
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If someone wants my ip addy...they will find it..it matters not if they are law or perv. A hacker will find anything. So, I know full well that when I open up and type...I am out there for all to see. That is the very reason I am very careful what I say. I KNOW that a key word will open me up to someones eye. There have been times I wanted to say something about somebody...but didnt because I knew it would and could get the attention of a man or woman of legal stature. I know when I turn on this pc, I am out there....every single thing typed is saved somewhere. Therefore I know that there is always that chance of everything I have said on here or any site I have been on can have anothers attention. Look at the news...employers are now watching our communication to see if we are the type they would want to employ. Kat Yes, employers can watch how employees use company equipment on company time. That is nothing new nor is it a secret, it is the companies property and employees must abide by their rules or work elsewhere. (choice )
I am concerned about my rights as a private citizen, nothing more, not making excuses for anyone who breaks the law. I just ask when I am curious or want to find out info. No no no no....it was said that POTENTIAL employers could look at your stuff. They have been telling teeners to think before posting cause it is a potential threat for their own livelyhood where getting a job is on the line. I also saw where large companies admit to using it to their advantage. They warned them to be very careful...because they most likely will search them out. Kat who is this "they"??? Is my employer allowed to see what is on my terminal while I am working? Generally, yes. Since the employer owns the computer network and the terminals, he or she is free to use them to monitor employees. Employees are given some protection from computer and other forms of electronic monitoring under certain circumstances. Union contracts, for example, may limit the employer's right to monitor. Also, public sector employees may have some minimal rights under the United States Constitution, in particular the Fourth Amendment which safeguards against unreasonable search and seizure. There may be some additional rights for employees in California given specific statutes of that state. See the paper by Los Angeles attorneys John Caragozian and Donald Warner, Jr., titled "Privacy Rights of Employees Using Workplace Computers in California," published in 2000. http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs7-work.htm#3a "they" The media...the companies that said it. I watch the news. I watch the job fairs. It was said it is a very real activity being done by "potential" employers. Not by "employers of an already hired employee". Of course if you use a company pc...you should and must be monitored. I would expect it. Actually I would probably fire you for it. That is stealing time from the company. Kat |
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fran...we know what else floats
duck billed platypus
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fran...we know what else floats
duck billed platypus
those are some sexy creatures  
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Tanya - from CNET article
A CNET News.com review of legal documents shows that courts have approved of this technique, even though it raises questions about entrapment, the problems of identifying who's using an open wireless connection--and whether anyone who clicks on a FBI link that contains no child pornography should be automatically subject to a dawn raid by federal police.
When asked what would stop the FBI from expanding its hyperlink sting operation, Harvey Silverglate, a longtime criminal defense lawyer in Cambridge, Mass. and author of a forthcoming book on the Justice Department, replied: "Because the courts have been so narrow in their definition of 'entrapment,' and so expansive in their definition of 'probable cause,' there is nothing to stop the Feds from acting as you posit." |
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fran...we know what else floats
Hope??? I liked that movie
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fran...we know what else floats
duck billed platypus
I like the do do more |
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fran....I think I posted that link. it was an example. FBI and state are different..I believe the FBI can do more than the state. if it's a police sting and they post a fake site and if it's not posted as a site for child porn then it's entrapment. if it is posted as a child porn site and someone clicks on it...then it's not
as far as the FBI....that may be a horse of a different color and I'm not sure about them |
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