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Topic: Supermodel Kathy Ireland Lashes Out Against Pro Choice
EquusDancer's photo
Wed 05/13/09 10:47 AM

but still ....I believe that flowerforyou


God should be the One Ultimately in Charge :thumbsup: :angel: :thumbsup:


he is the Supreme Giver and the Taker of Life drinker



Not Us... noway


Well, if ya want to get religious about it, God is the Master Abortionist. What do you think miscarriages are?!

Kathy Ireland needs to reseach the sex of children a bit more closely. The fetus is female till 6 weeks old, and then is triggered to either remain female or convert to male.

lilith401's photo
Wed 05/13/09 10:50 AM
Kathy Ireland has great hair....


Fran, that was fun. We've not done that in a long time... was it good for you?

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/13/09 10:50 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Wed 05/13/09 10:51 AM
IMO...beliefs are the reason whether or not you personally would do something. not everyone in the US believes in the same so those reasons shouldn't be imposd on them. the only reason NO ONE should have one is medical facts. if they find it is extremely dangerous or something.

but even when it wasn't legal....people found a way

franshade's photo
Wed 05/13/09 10:56 AM
Edited by franshade on Wed 05/13/09 10:56 AM

Kathy Ireland has great hair....


Fran, that was fun. We've not done that in a long time... was it good for you?


you just reminded me of the herbal essence commercial rofl

yes, yes, yessssssss rofl


EquusDancer's photo
Wed 05/13/09 10:56 AM
Pro-choice - always. No one gets the right to tell me what to do with my body, and most definately not a man. There are always, and will be ways to terminate the pregnancy, safely or not safely. And since a fetus can't survive outside of the womb until a certain age, it isn't a seperate entity.

Mind you, it would be nice to have access to free birth control, it would be nice for men to step up and be willing to be equal partners in that aspect, but as it's the woman who carried the fetus, and deals with it, then it's ultimately their decision. For some adoption works for them, and that's great, but that's not the only decision, and woman shouldn't be forced to be broodmares to carry a baby they don't want, to term.


franshade's photo
Wed 05/13/09 10:57 AM

<----met a registered sex offender on another dating site scared
so ....can be scarey...especially if they stalk you offtopic sorry...i'm rambling lol


that sucks big time - sorry you went through that flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/13/09 10:58 AM
eqqusdancer...that would be in a perfect world though lol flowerforyou

fran...no problems hun. luckily I have friends/family that are cops and he knew that...plus my brother in law is a big man lol

Foliel's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:15 AM
I have a question...

Let's say they make it so that women do not get a choice...what's to stop them from having a forced miscarriage? They could do any number of things to cause the miscarriage? Is that not still abortion?

ok so it was a couple of question lol

Mind you I don't care for abortion unless there is a very good reason, such as they will both die from childbirth. I also feel that the child might have been better off not being born than to be another child abuse victim or adopted out (which is the preferable option for me) or just disappears in yet another "IDK what happened to my child case."


EquusDancer's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:16 AM

eqqusdancer...that would be in a perfect world though lol flowerforyou

fran...no problems hun. luckily I have friends/family that are cops and he knew that...plus my brother in law is a big man lol


I know. I keep hoping one day... LOL!


yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:17 AM
foliel...there was a time when abortion was not legal...they would do whatever they could inckuding going to dirty backwood clinics and would bleed to death or get an infection.

EquusDancer's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:21 AM

I have a question...

Let's say they make it so that women do not get a choice...what's to stop them from having a forced miscarriage? They could do any number of things to cause the miscarriage? Is that not still abortion?

ok so it was a couple of question lol

Mind you I don't care for abortion unless there is a very good reason, such as they will both die from childbirth. I also feel that the child might have been better off not being born than to be another child abuse victim or adopted out (which is the preferable option for me) or just disappears in yet another "IDK what happened to my child case."




That's why abortion rights were fought for originally, there were so many women using coathangers and herbs to terminate pregnancies and either botching it, and still having now-damaged children, or killing themselves by ripping themselves open, bleeding to death, etc..

Technically a miscarriage is when the body naturally aborts because something is wrong with the fetus. However, the right person and herbal ingredients could certainly trigger the body to abort, and not have a way to track it. It's just not consistent.

It's also interesting over time how the views have changed. Victorian age and the Church, allowed a woman to end pregnancies before the "quickening". After that, it wasn't allowed. The quickening roughly corresponds to the start of the second tri-mester, when a woman can really feel the movement of the baby.

Thomas3474's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:22 AM
It won't be long before the pro-choice people scold her and call her names for expressing her right to free speech.I am sure they are already demanding for her job dismissal.There is probably at least 3 lawsuits by the ACLU for emotional distress that the people at planned parenthood suffered due to the fact that less people came in that day.Maybe the gay crowd can get involved and claim that because she is a Christian she also must not like gays.

DaveyB's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:26 AM

It won't be long before the pro-choice people scold her and call her names for expressing her right to free speech.I am sure they are already demanding for her job dismissal.There is probably at least 3 lawsuits by the ACLU for emotional distress that the people at planned parenthood suffered due to the fact that less people came in that day.Maybe the gay crowd can get involved and claim that because she is a Christian she also must not like gays.


Man you're full of hate, get some help.

Foliel's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:39 AM
dude this has nothing to do with gay people. This is about pro-life or pro-choice, leave homosexuality out of it. jeez some people just won't let go of anything frustrated

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:41 AM
well said EquusDancer

Rapunzel's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:43 AM


but still ....I believe that flowerforyou


God should be the One Ultimately in Charge :thumbsup: :angel: :thumbsup:


he is the Supreme Giver and the Taker of Life drinker



Not Us... noway


Well, if ya want to get religious about it, God is the Master Abortionist. What do you think miscarriages are?!

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well, i can see how you could say that , but

I wouldn't call God an Abortionist

My opinion is that God allows many things

and why some prayers are answered and why some not...huh

I do not know..ohwell

i wish I did have an answer for that flowerforyou

We really cannot see the whole picture..

and since you mentioned this ..


my feeling is that

The Creator Does what He does

for reasons we don't understand

We do not see the Whole Picture

We see through a Glass Darkly

so why miscarriages happen ?


there are many reasons...

however

i wasn't talking about things that happen out of our control sad

like a miscarriage ...:cry:

there is a difference between a miscarriage :cry:

and when someone chooses to terminate their pregnancy tears





yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:44 AM
how can anyone judge someone on this subject. no one but them knows what they are going through. i don't agree with those that don't care and use it as birth control when condoms are cheaper. but that isn't the only reason people would get them

Thomas3474's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:51 AM

dude this has nothing to do with gay people. This is about pro-life or pro-choice, leave homosexuality out of it. jeez some people just won't let go of anything frustrated




That was sacrasm duh!slaphead I was just trying to make a point.Anytime you have a famous person who is speaking his or her mind concerning Christianity you have a whole heard of people trying to find any excuse to find any reason to put this person down.It is hardly a surprise that the pro choice,liberals,ACLU,and gays all seem to have the same agenda.It is also no surprise that they are very vocal in speaking against anything that has to do with Christianity.

no photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:51 AM

It won't be long before the pro-choice people scold her and call her names for expressing her right to free speech.I am sure they are already demanding for her job dismissal.There is probably at least 3 lawsuits by the ACLU for emotional distress that the people at planned parenthood suffered due to the fact that less people came in that day.Maybe the gay crowd can get involved and claim that because she is a Christian she also must not like gays.


This has nothing to do with being gay, yet you still managed to bring up gay people?

Foliel's photo
Wed 05/13/09 11:55 AM


dude this has nothing to do with gay people. This is about pro-life or pro-choice, leave homosexuality out of it. jeez some people just won't let go of anything frustrated




That was sacrasm duh!slaphead I was just trying to make a point.Anytime you have a famous person who is speaking his or her mind concerning Christianity you have a whole heard of people trying to find any excuse to find any reason to put this person down.It is hardly a surprise that the pro choice,liberals,ACLU,and gays all seem to have the same agenda.It is also no surprise that they are very vocal in speaking against anything that has to do with Christianity.


Sorry thomas i just woke up lol so sarcasm doesnt register right away lol

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