this was sent to me by a new friend (that's not christian btw)

Matthew 7:3-5 (New International Version)

3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.


for anyone who if the shoe fits.....

just a thought

"yellowrose" ...ok I will explain why it matters and since you have a tendency to keep adding your personal experiences into the mix I will explain it that way

you have a boyfriend that you know is a serial killer, he's also a mass murderer and he even murders babies, he threatens to set you on fire if you don't accept his only son and you are but one of his many women he fools around with

nows here the kicker

you actually chose to be with this person because you claim that he is your soulmate and you actually approve of all the killing he does because ....you love him

that's kind of a warped view on it....but isn't it my choice??? why should you worry if it doesn't affect you??? it seems you act the same way you complain others act IMO

Matthew 6:1-19 (New International Reader's Version)

Matthew 6
Giving to Needy People
1 "Be careful not to do 'good works' in front of others. Don't do them to be seen by others. If you do, your Father in heaven will not reward you.
2 "When you give to needy people, do not announce it by having trumpets blown. Do not be like those who only pretend to be holy. They announce what they do in the synagogues and on the streets. They want to be honored by others. What I'm about to tell you is true. They have received their complete reward.

3 "When you give to the needy, don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. 4 Then your giving will be done secretly. Your Father will reward you. He sees what you do secretly.

Prayer
5 "When you pray, do not be like those who only pretend to be holy. They love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners. They want to be seen by others. What I'm about to tell you is true. They have received their complete reward.
6 "When you pray, go into your room. Close the door and pray to your Father, who can't be seen. He will reward you. Your Father sees what is done secretly.

7 "When you pray, do not keep talking on and on the way ungodly people do. They think they will be heard because they talk a lot. 8 Do not be like them. Your Father knows what you need even before you ask him.

9 "This is how you should pray.
" 'Our Father in heaven,
may your name be honored.
10 May your kingdom come.
May what you want to happen be done
on earth as it is done in heaven.

11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 Forgive us our sins,
just as we also have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 Keep us from falling into sin when we are tempted.
Save us from the evil one.'

14 "Forgive people when they sin against you. If you do, your Father who is in heaven will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive people their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Fasting
16 "When you go without eating, do not look gloomy like those who only pretend to be holy. They make their faces very sad. They want to show people they are fasting. What I'm about to tell you is true. They have received their complete reward.
17 "But when you go without eating, put olive oil on your head. Wash your face. 18 Then others will not know that you are fasting. Only your Father, who can't be seen, will know it. He will reward you. Your Father sees what is done secretly.

Put Away Riches in Heaven
19 "Do not put away riches for yourselves on earth. Moths and rust can destroy them. Thieves can break in and steal them.

something else to ponder

right, it's your choice but what does it say about the kind of person you are ....you are in an abussive relationship with a serial killing mass murderer baby killer, and you belong to a group of those that approve of these type of relationship and you promote this type of relationship to children ..so you are in fact help spreading this abuse ...and that's why it's matters and why it's more than just your choice

again....that is a very warped way of looking at it and i'm surprised at you

but again....if it doesn't effect you...why do you obsess so much over it? how are you not a hypocrite??? you act the same way in these forums as the actions you claim to despise so much. you don't just ask questions to learn and understand but you seem to enjoy controversy. is it worth it???? just because others may not believe as you do....doesn't make them wrong. there are things in life even you can't explain....doesn't make you wrong either. it's what we believe...plan and simple. don't try to make a mountain out of a mole hill...you'll just go in circles

if someone tells me that when I die...my soul will just float in space or become an astroid.... i would listen because i like hearing other peoples beliefs...but if i don't believe that, then it shouldn't effect my life. the world won't stop turning.

if you let people (that you don't seem to respect IMO) have that much power over you to control your life....what does that say about you?

double post

"yellowrose" ..what actions you taking about..I'm not in the forum sending signals to children that it's ok to follow someone that mass muderer babies ...isn't that what you are doing

again warped. I'm talking about how you seem to be judge, jury and executioner. you can't ask a question without starting something. you can't just take it as learning about others. you think your way is the only way. you are bigoted to anyone that thinks different. you warp how you see others.....aren't those things you say ALL christians do??? you can't accept the fact that when christians do those things...maybe they aren't right


why let other peoples beliefs control your life??? you aren't a puppet...cut the strings

"yellowrose"... warped doesn't mean untrue....so tell me what's untrue about what I said ...is it true that your God murder babies

is it untrue that you approve of your God murdering babies

if you are refering to the israelites leaving slavery and getting out of egypt...then yes. it was to let them go
that was also the old testament....and how many other beliefs have done that themselves???? but YET you focus on one thing

why are you so threatened about different beliefs??? are you (as you claim others are) not secure in your own beliefs???? you shouldn't let people control your life

"yellowrose" ..this a forum where issues are debated ...which means just because one debate doesn't mean they are threathen by what they debate ...

the discussion is about Hell and why believers such as yourself choose to follow an entity that kills the innocent and make promises of torture and does that fact tell something about the mentality of the follower that it may give them a sense of pleasure to the point that they may even seek out abusive relationships in their everyday life ...

you tend to fixate on things. but again....why should it effect you???? you don't believe...so why??? you are no different than the ones you complain about. let go.....don't let others control you

come to think about it....i don't think i even know what you believe. you spend your time trying to discredit others (not just christians) but i don't think i've seen you express what you believe. if you have then you said it while i was gone from here. have you posted a thread about your beliefs or non-beliefs?

"yellowrose" ..I'm fixated on things because Hell is what the thread is about ..DUH

so are you going to discuss the topic of the thread or are you going to keep using diversion tactics because you are too shame to discuss the truth about your religion and Hell ...

you fixate on it in threads not about it too...DUH (real mature)

what are your beliefs or non-beliefs??? have you ever said?

"yellowrose" ....the thread is about Hell ...try to stay on topic before the moderator Gods send a thunderbolt lock down up our apse

don't make it all about you (heard that somewhere before...hmmmm)

i am on topic about hell....i'm asking you a question..i'm not talking about evolution in here. but funny you should say that though since i have seen you do the same thing and you went way off topic

the pot and kettle comment comes to mind again

lol i asked you care so much about it if you don't believe. that IS part of the topic. next thread that you go off on a tangent....maybe the moderator gods will remind you