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Topic: I'm On The Yahweh To Hell
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Fri 02/27/09 08:37 AM

Can our conscious mind actually induce anything in the subconscious, or is that just an idea being fostered by popular contmporary "metaphysical" and psychological schools of thought?

Seems to me that it's the subconscious "mind" calling the shots and that we are merely it's puppets.

We "consciously" have only a tip-of-the-iceberg.


either way the conscious and the subconscious at this point in time are both puppets of reality ...that is the purpose of reality to control and confuse therefore the two has to work together to break this control

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Fri 02/27/09 08:44 AM


Can our conscious mind actually induce anything in the subconscious, or is that just an idea being fostered by popular contmporary "metaphysical" and psychological schools of thought?

Seems to me that it's the subconscious "mind" calling the shots and that we are merely it's puppets.

We "consciously" have only a tip-of-the-iceberg.


either way the conscious and the subconscious at this point in time are both puppets of reality ...that is the purpose of reality to control and confuse therefore the two has to work together to break this control


Perhaps the subconscious is the actual connection to whole reality and it's been our limited conscious, ego-driven, thought that has continuously been attempting to dictate reality?

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Fri 02/27/09 08:45 AM

Perhaps my personal definitions of "ego" and "pride" differ from yours.


my ego and pride place me as absolute truth, it's impossible to prove to myself that I don't exist and it's impossible for me to doubt that I do exist therefore nothing can exist above me

and that's why anyone that thinks themselves as not being absolute truth or that something exist above their existence has a lack of ego and/or pride ..

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Fri 02/27/09 09:05 AM



Can our conscious mind actually induce anything in the subconscious, or is that just an idea being fostered by popular contmporary "metaphysical" and psychological schools of thought?

Seems to me that it's the subconscious "mind" calling the shots and that we are merely it's puppets.

We "consciously" have only a tip-of-the-iceberg.


either way the conscious and the subconscious at this point in time are both puppets of reality ...that is the purpose of reality to control and confuse therefore the two has to work together to break this control


Perhaps the subconscious is the actual connection to whole reality and it's been our limited conscious, ego-driven, thought that has continuously been attempting to dictate reality?



the subconscious contains all the power the conscious mind need to control reality or to find truth that may be hidden within reality, reality will not cause itself to be destroyed or control so it induce the subconscious to secrete chemicals that block the conscious access to this power

emotions may be one reason the conscious is not granted power, emotions cause people to act irrationaly and with the power of the subsonscious a person can do total devestation upon something

get rid of the emotions which will lessen the chemicals that may block the power of the subconscious and your subconscious may grant your conscious some of that power

splendidlife's photo
Fri 02/27/09 09:15 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 02/27/09 09:29 AM


Perhaps my personal definitions of "ego" and "pride" differ from yours.


my ego and pride place me as absolute truth, it's impossible to prove to myself that I don't exist and it's impossible for me to doubt that I do exist therefore nothing can exist above me

and that's why anyone that thinks themselves as not being absolute truth or that something exist above their existence has a lack of ego and/or pride ..


In an existence or perspective of only those known and/or visible dimensions, little, if anything, "outside" will be seen.

Let's just say, for the sake of entertaining all possibilities, we ARE physical manifestations of something greater (I won't call it "God". - Not comfortable with that label at this time)...

At this point, our cute little pea-brains can barely begin to grasp limitless possibility. This is what Religions have been attempting to do all through the ages. Each one presenting a fraction of possible pictures. In ancient times, it seems Philosophers sort-of bridged the gap between Science and Religion... Perhaps mankind is coming to a point in which Religion will collaborate with Science and visa versa to uncover an even greater, more complete picture.

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Fri 02/27/09 09:28 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 02/27/09 09:44 AM




Can our conscious mind actually induce anything in the subconscious, or is that just an idea being fostered by popular contmporary "metaphysical" and psychological schools of thought?

Seems to me that it's the subconscious "mind" calling the shots and that we are merely it's puppets.

We "consciously" have only a tip-of-the-iceberg.


either way the conscious and the subconscious at this point in time are both puppets of reality ...that is the purpose of reality to control and confuse therefore the two has to work together to break this control


Perhaps the subconscious is the actual connection to whole reality and it's been our limited conscious, ego-driven, thought that has continuously been attempting to dictate reality?



the subconscious contains all the power the conscious mind need to control reality or to find truth that may be hidden within reality, reality will not cause itself to be destroyed or control so it induce the subconscious to secrete chemicals that block the conscious access to this power

emotions may be one reason the conscious is not granted power, emotions cause people to act irrationaly and with the power of the subsonscious a person can do total devestation upon something

get rid of the emotions which will lessen the chemicals that may block the power of the subconscious and your subconscious may grant your conscious some of that power


Very interesting!

It's emotions, based on all past memory, that run us dog-tired and ragged. If the grip of past memory somehow gets released, emotions become neutralized. Neutralized emotions unleash unlimited potential...

If it's the conscious mind that grips tight to memory, then something "greater" than the conscious mind may be needed to intervene. How might the subconscious step in and release this? Perhaps, in part, through our dreams.

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Fri 02/27/09 10:30 AM



Perhaps my personal definitions of "ego" and "pride" differ from yours.


my ego and pride place me as absolute truth, it's impossible to prove to myself that I don't exist and it's impossible for me to doubt that I do exist therefore nothing can exist above me

and that's why anyone that thinks themselves as not being absolute truth or that something exist above their existence has a lack of ego and/or pride ..


In an existence or perspective of only those known and/or visible dimensions, little, if anything, "outside" will be seen.

Let's just say, for the sake of entertaining all possibilities, we ARE physical manifestations of something greater (I won't call it "God". - Not comfortable with that label at this time)...

At this point, our cute little pea-brains can barely begin to grasp limitless possibility. This is what Religions have been attempting to do all through the ages. Each one presenting a fraction of possible pictures. In ancient times, it seems Philosophers sort-of bridged the gap between Science and Religion... Perhaps mankind is coming to a point in which Religion will collaborate with Science and visa versa to uncover an even greater, more complete picture.



anytime science merge with religion it presents a view outside of the belief, ususally those that choose this path becomes New Age or Scientologists, the establish religions can not afford to merge with science because it would go against the teaching of the belief and it's kind of hypocritical

also when someone say that their brain is to limited to comprehend God or another supreme entity only means they don't want to understand, and faith demands that you don't understand

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Fri 02/27/09 11:12 AM





Can our conscious mind actually induce anything in the subconscious, or is that just an idea being fostered by popular contmporary "metaphysical" and psychological schools of thought?

Seems to me that it's the subconscious "mind" calling the shots and that we are merely it's puppets.

We "consciously" have only a tip-of-the-iceberg.


either way the conscious and the subconscious at this point in time are both puppets of reality ...that is the purpose of reality to control and confuse therefore the two has to work together to break this control


Perhaps the subconscious is the actual connection to whole reality and it's been our limited conscious, ego-driven, thought that has continuously been attempting to dictate reality?



the subconscious contains all the power the conscious mind need to control reality or to find truth that may be hidden within reality, reality will not cause itself to be destroyed or control so it induce the subconscious to secrete chemicals that block the conscious access to this power

emotions may be one reason the conscious is not granted power, emotions cause people to act irrationaly and with the power of the subsonscious a person can do total devestation upon something

get rid of the emotions which will lessen the chemicals that may block the power of the subconscious and your subconscious may grant your conscious some of that power


Very interesting!

It's emotions, based on all past memory, that run us dog-tired and ragged. If the grip of past memory somehow gets released, emotions become neutralized. Neutralized emotions unleash unlimited potential...

If it's the conscious mind that grips tight to memory, then something "greater" than the conscious mind may be needed to intervene. How might the subconscious step in and release this? Perhaps, in part, through our dreams.


Dreams displays how the person has the power to alter reality but there is no logical reason for dreams to release the power of the subconscious to the conscious, Dreams usually shuts down the body to make sure it doesn't hurt itself in conscious reality

and that is when Ego and pride may play a key factor, you have to go into the Dreams knowing that you can control the power outside the dream

think of it in reverse ...if you had the power what could you do consciously to get rid of it

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Fri 02/27/09 11:33 AM






Can our conscious mind actually induce anything in the subconscious, or is that just an idea being fostered by popular contmporary "metaphysical" and psychological schools of thought?

Seems to me that it's the subconscious "mind" calling the shots and that we are merely it's puppets.

We "consciously" have only a tip-of-the-iceberg.


either way the conscious and the subconscious at this point in time are both puppets of reality ...that is the purpose of reality to control and confuse therefore the two has to work together to break this control


Perhaps the subconscious is the actual connection to whole reality and it's been our limited conscious, ego-driven, thought that has continuously been attempting to dictate reality?



the subconscious contains all the power the conscious mind need to control reality or to find truth that may be hidden within reality, reality will not cause itself to be destroyed or control so it induce the subconscious to secrete chemicals that block the conscious access to this power

emotions may be one reason the conscious is not granted power, emotions cause people to act irrationaly and with the power of the subsonscious a person can do total devestation upon something

get rid of the emotions which will lessen the chemicals that may block the power of the subconscious and your subconscious may grant your conscious some of that power


Very interesting!

It's emotions, based on all past memory, that run us dog-tired and ragged. If the grip of past memory somehow gets released, emotions become neutralized. Neutralized emotions unleash unlimited potential...

If it's the conscious mind that grips tight to memory, then something "greater" than the conscious mind may be needed to intervene. How might the subconscious step in and release this? Perhaps, in part, through our dreams.


Dreams displays how the person has the power to alter reality but there is no logical reason for dreams to release the power of the subconscious to the conscious, Dreams usually shuts down the body to make sure it doesn't hurt itself in conscious reality

and that is when Ego and pride may play a key factor, you have to go into the Dreams knowing that you can control the power outside the dream

think of it in reverse ...if you had the power what could you do consciously to get rid of it


What "it" are you speaking of?

splendidlife's photo
Fri 02/27/09 11:37 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 02/27/09 11:38 AM




Perhaps my personal definitions of "ego" and "pride" differ from yours.


my ego and pride place me as absolute truth, it's impossible to prove to myself that I don't exist and it's impossible for me to doubt that I do exist therefore nothing can exist above me

and that's why anyone that thinks themselves as not being absolute truth or that something exist above their existence has a lack of ego and/or pride ..


In an existence or perspective of only those known and/or visible dimensions, little, if anything, "outside" will be seen.

Let's just say, for the sake of entertaining all possibilities, we ARE physical manifestations of something greater (I won't call it "God". - Not comfortable with that label at this time)...

At this point, our cute little pea-brains can barely begin to grasp limitless possibility. This is what Religions have been attempting to do all through the ages. Each one presenting a fraction of possible pictures. In ancient times, it seems Philosophers sort-of bridged the gap between Science and Religion... Perhaps mankind is coming to a point in which Religion will collaborate with Science and visa versa to uncover an even greater, more complete picture.



anytime science merge with religion it presents a view outside of the belief, ususally those that choose this path becomes New Age or Scientologists, the establish religions can not afford to merge with science because it would go against the teaching of the belief and it's kind of hypocritical

also when someone say that their brain is to limited to comprehend God or another supreme entity only means they don't want to understand, and faith demands that you don't understand


Since I was not raised on religion, I know little of the faith that religious speak.

Yeah... Well, my guess is that ALL religion is bound to be turned up-side-down to the point of barely recognizing itself.

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Fri 02/27/09 02:35 PM







Can our conscious mind actually induce anything in the subconscious, or is that just an idea being fostered by popular contmporary "metaphysical" and psychological schools of thought?

Seems to me that it's the subconscious "mind" calling the shots and that we are merely it's puppets.

We "consciously" have only a tip-of-the-iceberg.


either way the conscious and the subconscious at this point in time are both puppets of reality ...that is the purpose of reality to control and confuse therefore the two has to work together to break this control


Perhaps the subconscious is the actual connection to whole reality and it's been our limited conscious, ego-driven, thought that has continuously been attempting to dictate reality?



the subconscious contains all the power the conscious mind need to control reality or to find truth that may be hidden within reality, reality will not cause itself to be destroyed or control so it induce the subconscious to secrete chemicals that block the conscious access to this power

emotions may be one reason the conscious is not granted power, emotions cause people to act irrationaly and with the power of the subsonscious a person can do total devestation upon something

get rid of the emotions which will lessen the chemicals that may block the power of the subconscious and your subconscious may grant your conscious some of that power


Very interesting!

It's emotions, based on all past memory, that run us dog-tired and ragged. If the grip of past memory somehow gets released, emotions become neutralized. Neutralized emotions unleash unlimited potential...

If it's the conscious mind that grips tight to memory, then something "greater" than the conscious mind may be needed to intervene. How might the subconscious step in and release this? Perhaps, in part, through our dreams.


Dreams displays how the person has the power to alter reality but there is no logical reason for dreams to release the power of the subconscious to the conscious, Dreams usually shuts down the body to make sure it doesn't hurt itself in conscious reality

and that is when Ego and pride may play a key factor, you have to go into the Dreams knowing that you can control the power outside the dream

think of it in reverse ...if you had the power what could you do consciously to get rid of it


What "it" are you speaking of?


the "it" refers to the situation in question

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Fri 02/27/09 02:40 PM





Perhaps my personal definitions of "ego" and "pride" differ from yours.


my ego and pride place me as absolute truth, it's impossible to prove to myself that I don't exist and it's impossible for me to doubt that I do exist therefore nothing can exist above me

and that's why anyone that thinks themselves as not being absolute truth or that something exist above their existence has a lack of ego and/or pride ..


In an existence or perspective of only those known and/or visible dimensions, little, if anything, "outside" will be seen.

Let's just say, for the sake of entertaining all possibilities, we ARE physical manifestations of something greater (I won't call it "God". - Not comfortable with that label at this time)...

At this point, our cute little pea-brains can barely begin to grasp limitless possibility. This is what Religions have been attempting to do all through the ages. Each one presenting a fraction of possible pictures. In ancient times, it seems Philosophers sort-of bridged the gap between Science and Religion... Perhaps mankind is coming to a point in which Religion will collaborate with Science and visa versa to uncover an even greater, more complete picture.



anytime science merge with religion it presents a view outside of the belief, ususally those that choose this path becomes New Age or Scientologists, the establish religions can not afford to merge with science because it would go against the teaching of the belief and it's kind of hypocritical

also when someone say that their brain is to limited to comprehend God or another supreme entity only means they don't want to understand, and faith demands that you don't understand


Since I was not raised on religion, I know little of the faith that religious speak.

Yeah... Well, my guess is that ALL religion is bound to be turned up-side-down to the point of barely recognizing itself.



all faith is the same.. for your faith to not be religiously based, you would have to describe it without the inclusion of any other supreme or supernatural entity

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Sat 02/28/09 10:36 AM






Perhaps my personal definitions of "ego" and "pride" differ from yours.


my ego and pride place me as absolute truth, it's impossible to prove to myself that I don't exist and it's impossible for me to doubt that I do exist therefore nothing can exist above me

and that's why anyone that thinks themselves as not being absolute truth or that something exist above their existence has a lack of ego and/or pride ..


In an existence or perspective of only those known and/or visible dimensions, little, if anything, "outside" will be seen.

Let's just say, for the sake of entertaining all possibilities, we ARE physical manifestations of something greater (I won't call it "God". - Not comfortable with that label at this time)...

At this point, our cute little pea-brains can barely begin to grasp limitless possibility. This is what Religions have been attempting to do all through the ages. Each one presenting a fraction of possible pictures. In ancient times, it seems Philosophers sort-of bridged the gap between Science and Religion... Perhaps mankind is coming to a point in which Religion will collaborate with Science and visa versa to uncover an even greater, more complete picture.



anytime science merge with religion it presents a view outside of the belief, ususally those that choose this path becomes New Age or Scientologists, the establish religions can not afford to merge with science because it would go against the teaching of the belief and it's kind of hypocritical

also when someone say that their brain is to limited to comprehend God or another supreme entity only means they don't want to understand, and faith demands that you don't understand


Since I was not raised on religion, I know little of the faith that religious speak.

Yeah... Well, my guess is that ALL religion is bound to be turned up-side-down to the point of barely recognizing itself.



all faith is the same.. for your faith to not be religiously based, you would have to describe it without the inclusion of any other supreme or supernatural entity


Uh...
Why?

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