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Darwin was exposed to Christianity in his youth, Mirror.... turned away later on... but accepted Christ on his deathbed. It was Christ who drew Darwin unto Him on his deathbed.... and MirrorrMirror... when we are dying, who will be able to resist the Awesome Drawing Power of God's Presence?? No one. And who would even want to resist? No one. 
When are going to stop spreading this lie? The person who started that story all those years ago lied. Darwin did not have have deathbed renewal of faith. He dies as he had lived for most of his life an agnostic at the most. The story of his death bed conversion was made up by a woman a few years after he died. According to his family she was not there when he was on his death bed and if he had some conversion before he was on his death bed, how likely would it have been that he wouldn't tell his family. 
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Darwin was exposed to Christianity in his youth, Mirror.... turned away later on... but accepted Christ on his deathbed. It was Christ who drew Darwin unto Him on his deathbed.... and MirrorrMirror... when we are dying, who will be able to resist the Awesome Drawing Power of God's Presence?? No one. And who would even want to resist? No one.
When are going to stop spreading this lie? The person who started that story all those years ago lied. Darwin did not have have deathbed renewal of faith. He dies as he had lived for most of his life an agnostic at the most. The story of his death bed conversion was made up by a woman a few years after he died. According to his family she was not there when he was on his death bed and if he had some conversion before he was on his death bed, how likely would it have been that he wouldn't tell his family.
 REPENT FOR WHAT?
 I done explained this 10 times
 I will explain it again
 Charles Robert Darwin was a naturalist who proposed that all living creatures are related by common ancestors. Charles Darwin was born in England in 1809 and died in 1882. Darwin was a member of the Royal Geographical SocietyHis Alma Mater was the Univerity of Edinburgh and the University of Cambridge.His academic advisors were Adam Sedgwick and John Stevens Henslow. His best known works were the "Voyage of the Beagle","On The Origin Of Species" and his theory of Natural Selection.He won several major awards in his lifetime.The Royal Medal in 1853,the Wallaston Medal in 1859,and the Copley Medal in 1864.One of his major influences was Charles Lyell, and he in turned heavily influenced Thomas Henry Huxley and George John Romanes. He was a member of the Church of England although his family had a Unitarian background,and he is known to have embraced Agnosticism after 1851
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God knows what was in his heart as he died, maybe he repented, maybe he didn't , who knows
Repented? You people must truly think God is some kind of a monster. What the hell did Darwin do that was so evil?
You people seem to think that God hates eveyone who refuses to believe that the Jews speak for him. That's truly absurd. Why should anyone believe that the Jews speak for God (or Jesus?). Why should anyone put their faith in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Or the male-chauvinistic Paul? It's impossible to put your faith in Jesus directly. All that we have is hearsay. The idea that people need to 'repent' simply because they don't believe in a bigoted hateful religion is utterly absurd. You people make God out to be a real MONSTER! I'll never understand the the mentality of believing that our creator is actually more hateful than a lot of moral humans. My very own mother would have been infinitely more loving and compassionate than your God. You people seem to trust that God is a truly hateful deity who has no intelligence whatsoever. If Dawin didn't believe in the biblical account of God how does that make him an evil person?
I'll never understand how you people can believe that God would be so callous and hateful and truly heartless as well as totally ingnorant. It's all about EGO. A JEALOUS GOD who hates anyone who refuse to worship his EGO through the hearsay of a truly crude and rude male chauvinisitic society. If God is like you say, then there is no God. God would be Satan. That's the only explanation. Only Satan could be that hateful and empty of empathy and understanding. To hate intelligent men for considering reason over hateful bigoted hearsay. If that's true then God condemned so many men by giving them brains. If he wanted eveyone to act like monkeys he should have just stopped evolution when he got to that point. Then he wouldn't be bothered with people who actually THINK and USE their brains! 
I've never seen anything generate more hate in my entire life than Christianity. Hatred for the 'heathens'! Condemn them all to hell! Anyone who refuses to become a bigoty for Jesus goes to hell. Sounds like the Crusades are as alive today as they ever were. I just don't understand why Christians have such an obscession to make a demon out of Jesus. It makes no sense at all. |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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 Charles Darwins didn't have a damned thing to repent for,and if slandering people just for making a scientific observation is what Christianity is all about then you can count me out.
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sat 04/25/09 12:15 AM
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 Morningsong
 Charles Robert Darwin was a naturalist who proposed that all living creatures are related by common ancestors.Charles Darwin was born in England in 1809 and died in 1882.Darwin was a member of the Royal Geographical Society.His Alma Mater was the Univerity of Edinburgh and the University of Cambridge.His academic advisors were Adam Sedgwick and John Stevens Henslow.His best known works were the "Voyage of the Beagle","On The Origin Of Species" and his theory of Natural Selection.He won several major awards in his lifetime.The Royal Medal in 1853,the Wallaston Medal in 1859,and the Copley Medal in 1864.One of his major influences was Charles Lyell, and he in turned heavily influenced Thomas Henry Huxley and George John Romanes.He was a member of the Church of England although his family had a Unitarian background,and he is known to have embraced Agnosticism after 1851
Darwin was exposed to Christianity in his youth, Mirror.... turned away later on... but accepted Christ on his deathbed. It was Christ who drew Darwin unto Him on his deathbed.... and MirrorrMirror... when we are dying, who will be able to resist the Awesome Drawing Power of God's Presence?? No one. And who would even want to resist? No one.
No matter what people say in life now.... no one will be able to resist God's Awesome Drawing Power... and His Awesome Love...when the time comes.
And only God knows when that time will be for each one of us. Though man protests against God now ... one day each man will feel God's Awesome Love.. and God's Awesome Presence... and will accept God too. Scripture says, Except God draw man, no man can accept God. But In the meantime , God is preparing the heart to recieve. But once more... when God's drawing Presence is felt... No one will be able to resist and say no..except the coldest hearts. And I don't know any ...or see any cold hearts here. Fot those who haven't accepted Christ yet, they just have not seen yet. That's all.
Be Blessed Mirror.
The first link below (shared earlier) , and the link following BOTH show how Darwin was DRAWN by God...all his life.... (the purpose in showing the links was to show this) http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v4/n1/pursuit-darwin http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html And in the end , God's drawing began to affect him (as was described when Lady Hope found him reading scriptures again...and also how he saved his wife's "Beautiful letter". Point I am making here again..as I did earlier, is this: EXCEPT GOD FIRST DRAW A MAN UNTO HIM NO MAN CAN BE SAVED!!! Also...scripture says, " when one in a houselhold is saved, all shall be saved". Why? Because God usually will use that one... to win all to Christ. Just because Darwin did not confess publicly , does not mean he was not eventually saved. NO ONE knows what happened on his deathbed except God. BUT the evidenc of God's drawing him..and his eventually reading scriptures again ,speaks VOLUMES. It SCREAMS that God was touching Darwin's heart, as he began to search and read scriptures again. AND..ONCE MORE... it is ONLY God FIRST Drawing Us UNTO HIM , that any of us can become saved in the first place!!! And who shall resist God in the end when God draws us? NO MAN...except the cruelist and the most evil of hearts. Does Darwin strike you as a cruel and evil monster? NO!!!!!!! Darwin was drawn by God..and in the end begin to read the bible again. I KNOW this man is saved..cause God is the one who draws and saves. Too many people JUDGE . My heart tells me Darwin is in heaven. I too went thru a similar situation...crying out to God to save my athiest friend.. and God gave me this great peace that he was saved in the end. Did I hear words from this man's lips, who was an atheist all his life? No..but I saw the biggist warmest smile on his face in his last day on earth , when I said to him, "Jesus lives in your heart now, doesn't he?", And he just nodded, yes. And then the next day, at exactly 8:ooam in the morn, I took a nap and I had a dream .... I dreamed he was smiling in my dream and was telling me he made it to the other side..then he vanished and I woke up. I immediately made a call.......and that was when I learned that he had already gone home to be with the Lord.. Also... My own father,whom I wrote letters to for years and years from NY....kept everyone of my letters(letters sharing the Love of Christ with him). When I asked why he saved all my letters, he said he knew he would need those letters one day. Well..that one day came.......and I went home in a terrible storm...drawn by God....and then I knew why God was drawing me home. It was time for pappa to accept Christ. And it was the next day after I had arrived home, that I led Pappa to Chrsit. He said he meant it when I asked papp if he meant it when he asked Jesus into his heart.....and from that day on he was a changed man. See.... God did not give up on my athiest friend. God did not give up my my beloved pappa. Just like God did not give up on Darwin. Early on my pappa was also exposed to religion... but then rebelled because of the hypocrisy he saw. I am willing to bet that Darwin also rebelled agaisnt just the hypocrisy he saw..but in the end he accepted Christ. My heart says, Darwin is in heaven. Along with my beleoved pappa and my athiest friend..who all came home to be with God . WHO can resist God when God draws man unto Him ? No one. Except the stoniest heart. I did not see a stony evil cold heart in my athiest friend. Nor in my beloved pappa. Nor did I see one from what I read, in Darwin. Just a man searching. I believe with all of my heart, that Darwin is in heaven. Along with Beloved Pappa and my Dear Friend.
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Just for conducting a scientific inquiry he was "rebelling against God"?
 From all accounts Darwin probably did believe in God.Thats what I have been trying to show.He wasn't searching for anything except the origin of species.His books don't have a word in them about God ,or anything bad about God.Just dry boring scientific text.He was just dealing with facts and observations using the scientific method. No political or theological agenda.His personal beliefs did not enter into his works of natural philosphy(what we call science). There is no reason to attack him the ways I have seen him being attacked in here and in other threads. Its baseless
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OK, I'm about to go Middle Eastern on your behinds if you don't stop messin' with Darwin.
Here is me quoting myself from last night on another thread where I had to defend the good name of Sir Darwin: Ya'll leave Darwin alone now, you hear? I get as offended when the creationists try to discredit Darwin, as they would get offended when I refer to Jesus as a bastard child of a prostitute woman. Darwin believed in the Bible, and the whole creationist ideology. He didn't intentionally set out to discredit and disprove religion and the creationist theories, he accidentally stumbled upon his findings. If he hadn't someone eventually would have. Sure, he had a hard time there for a while looking at evidence of evolution and finding it at odds with stories and fables of creation. But in the end, he had to come to accept his discoveries as facts and thus, became an agnostic... Kinda off the subject, but Jimmy Carter, while running for President in the mid 70's, ran into a similar dilemma! He was a devout Christian... and one of his campaign promises was to get to the bottom of the UFO phenomenon. Once he became President, he walks into the Pentagon in late January 1977, and after being let in on he truth about UFOs and the secrets the government has been keeping, he walks out literally in tears and to this day will not make a comment or answer a question on the subject of extra terrestrial life. Just my humble opinion, but perhaps his debriefing by the CIA and the Pentagon shattered all his previous beliefs on the origin of life and the existence of God of the Christian faith... |
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Edited by
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Once a person is born of God,
nothing will be able to shake his/her Faith. Simply because that person is literally born again in his/her spirit... or...born of God...and nothing can take that away. It is impossible for one to become unborn, once a person is born in the flesh. Same goes with being born again in the spirit .. or being born of God. Which is what the true meaning of a christian is.... someone who is born again
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I was just watching a mathematics lecture last night about Galelio, and how he was brought before the inquisition for his suggestion that the Earth might not be the center of the Universe.
It clearly states in the Bible that the Earth DOES NOT MOVE! This is the very reason these people were so upset about someone suggesting that the Earth moves is because this is the same thing as calling God a liar! Well, guess what? God is a liar! The Earth DOES MOVE! Although, we all know this isn't true. God is not a liar! So what then must be the truth? :huh" Well clearly the REAL TRUTH is that the BIBLE is a LIE! It's NOT the word of God! Galileo proved that the Bible is the FALSE LIES of MEN. The Bible has been proven to be a LIE. It's a done deal. Christianity is a LIE. The Bible is filled with LIES! God is not the judgmental bigoted egotistical jealous FOOL that the Christians would love for everyone to believe. The Christians are WRONG. The Bible has been proven to be a LIE! Yet Christians still use it to perpetuate hatred against decent intelligent men and women to this very day! It's bigotry gone insane in Jesus' name! Even Jesus himself denounced the Bible! Even the gospels let that TRUTH slip out amidst their hateful bigoted lies! They revealed themselves to be liars. The men who wrote the New Testament and lied about Jesus are the most dispicable men who ever lived. Look at how many people they have caused to become bigots in the name of Jesus! When all the while Jesus was actually denouncing the very kinds of bigotries that the authors of the New Testament were using Jesus to support! When are people going to realise that Jesus was a VICTIM of the times! And anyone who worships the Bible is actually worshiping the enemies of Jesus! Christianity is that antithesis of Jesus! It's a hateful bigoted religion that uses Jesus' name! People need to WAKE UP! The Bible has been proven to be false ever since the time of Galileo! Why are people still worshiping the men who wrote those lies?
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Abracadaba,
Very well put...! You're awesome... If we lived a thousand years ago, I would wait till you died, then I would dig up and steal your body in the middle of the night and start a rumor that you were resurrected, rose from the grave by the will of God. I would also start a rumor that you healed the blind, as I would take off my eye patch and show everyone that thanks to you, I can now see with both eyes. I would also write a buncha jibber jabber and contribute to the new new testament which shall be read and used by preachers in sermons for years and years... You did mention that you were a child of god, as we are all children of god, right? I'm gonna mis-quote you on that... "Abracadabra is the son of God..." |
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Edited by
SharpShooter10
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Sat 04/25/09 03:31 PM
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Darwin was exposed to Christianity in his youth, Mirror.... turned away later on... but accepted Christ on his deathbed. It was Christ who drew Darwin unto Him on his deathbed.... and MirrorrMirror... when we are dying, who will be able to resist the Awesome Drawing Power of God's Presence?? No one. And who would even want to resist? No one.
When are going to stop spreading this lie? The person who started that story all those years ago lied. Darwin did not have have deathbed renewal of faith. He dies as he had lived for most of his life an agnostic at the most. The story of his death bed conversion was made up by a woman a few years after he died. According to his family she was not there when he was on his death bed and if he had some conversion before he was on his death bed, how likely would it have been that he wouldn't tell his family.
REPENT FOR WHAT?
I done explained this 10 times
I will explain it again
Charles Robert Darwin was a naturalist who proposed that all living creatures are related by common ancestors. Charles Darwin was born in England in 1809 and died in 1882. Darwin was a member of the Royal Geographical SocietyHis Alma Mater was the Univerity of Edinburgh and the University of Cambridge.His academic advisors were Adam Sedgwick and John Stevens Henslow. His best known works were the "Voyage of the Beagle","On The Origin Of Species" and his theory of Natural Selection.He won several major awards in his lifetime.The Royal Medal in 1853,the Wallaston Medal in 1859,and the Copley Medal in 1864.One of his major influences was Charles Lyell, and he in turned heavily influenced Thomas Henry Huxley and George John Romanes. He was a member of the Church of England although his family had a Unitarian background,and he is known to have embraced Agnosticism after 1851
it could have been for anything, not the evolution thing, maybe he liked young rump of boy, and whole birds 'stead of feathers 
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God knows what was in his heart as he died, maybe he repented, maybe he didn't , who knows
Repented? You people must truly think God is some kind of a monster. What the hell did Darwin do that was so evil?
You people seem to think that God hates eveyone who refuses to believe that the Jews speak for him. That's truly absurd. Why should anyone believe that the Jews speak for God (or Jesus?). Why should anyone put their faith in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Or the male-chauvinistic Paul? It's impossible to put your faith in Jesus directly. All that we have is hearsay. The idea that people need to 'repent' simply because they don't believe in a bigoted hateful religion is utterly absurd. You people make God out to be a real MONSTER! I'll never understand the the mentality of believing that our creator is actually more hateful than a lot of moral humans. My very own mother would have been infinitely more loving and compassionate than your God. You people seem to trust that God is a truly hateful deity who has no intelligence whatsoever. If Dawin didn't believe in the biblical account of God how does that make him an evil person?
I'll never understand how you people can believe that God would be so callous and hateful and truly heartless as well as totally ingnorant. It's all about EGO. A JEALOUS GOD who hates anyone who refuse to worship his EGO through the hearsay of a truly crude and rude male chauvinisitic society. If God is like you say, then there is no God. God would be Satan. That's the only explanation. Only Satan could be that hateful and empty of empathy and understanding. To hate intelligent men for considering reason over hateful bigoted hearsay. If that's true then God condemned so many men by giving them brains. If he wanted eveyone to act like monkeys he should have just stopped evolution when he got to that point. Then he wouldn't be bothered with people who actually THINK and USE their brains!
I've never seen anything generate more hate in my entire life than Christianity. Hatred for the 'heathens'! Condemn them all to hell! Anyone who refuses to become a bigoty for Jesus goes to hell. Sounds like the Crusades are as alive today as they ever were. I just don't understand why Christians have such an obscession to make a demon out of Jesus. It makes no sense at all. |
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Why should anyone put their faith in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?
^^^^^^ Abras quote ^^^^^^^ Speaking for me pesonally, My faith is in GOD alone, all others take a back seat |
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I was just watching a mathematics lecture last night about Galelio, and how he was brought before the inquisition for his suggestion that the Earth might not be the center of the Universe. It clearly states in the Bible that the Earth DOES NOT MOVE! This is the very reason these people were so upset about someone suggesting that the Earth moves is because this is the same thing as calling God a liar! Well, guess what? God is a liar! The Earth DOES MOVE! Although, we all know this isn't true. God is not a liar! So what then must be the truth? :huh" Well clearly the REAL TRUTH is that the BIBLE is a LIE! It's NOT the word of God! Galileo proved that the Bible is the FALSE LIES of MEN. The Bible has been proven to be a LIE. It's a done deal. Christianity is a LIE. The Bible is filled with LIES! God is not the judgmental bigoted egotistical jealous FOOL that the Christians would love for everyone to believe. The Christians are WRONG. The Bible has been proven to be a LIE! Yet Christians still use it to perpetuate hatred against decent intelligent men and women to this very day! It's bigotry gone insane in Jesus' name! Even Jesus himself denounced the Bible! Even the gospels let that TRUTH slip out amidst their hateful bigoted lies! They revealed themselves to be liars. The men who wrote the New Testament and lied about Jesus are the most dispicable men who ever lived. Look at how many people they have caused to become bigots in the name of Jesus! When all the while Jesus was actually denouncing the very kinds of bigotries that the authors of the New Testament were using Jesus to support! When are people going to realise that Jesus was a VICTIM of the times! And anyone who worships the Bible is actually worshiping the enemies of Jesus! Christianity is that antithesis of Jesus! It's a hateful bigoted religion that uses Jesus' name! People need to WAKE UP! The Bible has been proven to be false ever since the time of Galileo! Why are people still worshiping the men who wrote those lies?
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Darwin was exposed to Christianity in his youth, Mirror.... turned away later on... but accepted Christ on his deathbed. It was Christ who drew Darwin unto Him on his deathbed.... and MirrorrMirror... when we are dying, who will be able to resist the Awesome Drawing Power of God's Presence?? No one. And who would even want to resist? No one.
When are going to stop spreading this lie? The person who started that story all those years ago lied. Darwin did not have have deathbed renewal of faith. He dies as he had lived for most of his life an agnostic at the most. The story of his death bed conversion was made up by a woman a few years after he died. According to his family she was not there when he was on his death bed and if he had some conversion before he was on his death bed, how likely would it have been that he wouldn't tell his family.
REPENT FOR WHAT?
I done explained this 10 times
I will explain it again
Charles Robert Darwin was a naturalist who proposed that all living creatures are related by common ancestors. Charles Darwin was born in England in 1809 and died in 1882. Darwin was a member of the Royal Geographical SocietyHis Alma Mater was the Univerity of Edinburgh and the University of Cambridge.His academic advisors were Adam Sedgwick and John Stevens Henslow. His best known works were the "Voyage of the Beagle","On The Origin Of Species" and his theory of Natural Selection.He won several major awards in his lifetime.The Royal Medal in 1853,the Wallaston Medal in 1859,and the Copley Medal in 1864.One of his major influences was Charles Lyell, and he in turned heavily influenced Thomas Henry Huxley and George John Romanes. He was a member of the Church of England although his family had a Unitarian background,and he is known to have embraced Agnosticism after 1851
it could have been for anything, not the evolution thing, maybe he liked young rump of boy, and whole birds 'stead of feathers
But he didn't have to repent for writing his SCIENCE books.
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Why should anyone put their faith in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? ^^^^^^ Abras quote ^^^^^^^ Speaking for me pesonally, My faith is in GOD alone, all others take a back seat I would agree with the sentiments of others here that Charles Darwin did nothing wrong and nothing that would warrant his condemnation or "repentance." Come on now... |
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Darwin was exposed to Christianity in his youth, Mirror.... turned away later on... but accepted Christ on his deathbed. It was Christ who drew Darwin unto Him on his deathbed.... and MirrorrMirror... when we are dying, who will be able to resist the Awesome Drawing Power of God's Presence?? No one. And who would even want to resist? No one.
When are going to stop spreading this lie? The person who started that story all those years ago lied. Darwin did not have have deathbed renewal of faith. He dies as he had lived for most of his life an agnostic at the most. The story of his death bed conversion was made up by a woman a few years after he died. According to his family she was not there when he was on his death bed and if he had some conversion before he was on his death bed, how likely would it have been that he wouldn't tell his family.
REPENT FOR WHAT?
I done explained this 10 times
I will explain it again
Charles Robert Darwin was a naturalist who proposed that all living creatures are related by common ancestors. Charles Darwin was born in England in 1809 and died in 1882. Darwin was a member of the Royal Geographical SocietyHis Alma Mater was the Univerity of Edinburgh and the University of Cambridge.His academic advisors were Adam Sedgwick and John Stevens Henslow. His best known works were the "Voyage of the Beagle","On The Origin Of Species" and his theory of Natural Selection.He won several major awards in his lifetime.The Royal Medal in 1853,the Wallaston Medal in 1859,and the Copley Medal in 1864.One of his major influences was Charles Lyell, and he in turned heavily influenced Thomas Henry Huxley and George John Romanes. He was a member of the Church of England although his family had a Unitarian background,and he is known to have embraced Agnosticism after 1851
it could have been for anything, not the evolution thing, maybe he liked young rump of boy, and whole birds 'stead of feathers
But he didn't have to repent for writing his SCIENCE books.
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Oh, well in that case, you can say that anyone can repent for anything at any time. I thought for certain you were referring to Charles Darwin for a reason?? lol. Nice save.
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Why should anyone put their faith in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? ^^^^^^ Abras quote ^^^^^^^ Speaking for me pesonally, My faith is in GOD alone, all others take a back seat I would agree with the sentiments of others here that Charles Darwin did nothing wrong and nothing that would warrant his condemnation or "repentance." Come on now... |
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Edited by
SharpShooter10
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Oh, well in that case, you can say that anyone can repent for anything at any time. I thought for certain you were referring to Charles Darwin for a reason?? lol. Nice save. wasn't trying to take a crack at darwin,He as do most folks has his proponents as well as critics
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