And how are we defining superiority? Name something that animals beat
us in- and remember, we're allowed to "cheat" and use our technology. We
made it, and thus, it counts as a species survival trait.

Oh, and don't for a second think "environmental equilibrium" counts.
Any species on earth could and would do exactly the same "consume until
nothing survives" process that we're doing. Without stopping to consider
the consequences for even the meager amount that we have.

The thing is, other forces inhibit the rest of the animal kingdom. And
thus far, we've proven unstopable.

Is a bully in the school yard superior?

"And how are we defining superiority? Name something that animals beat
us in- and remember, we're allowed to "cheat" and use our technology. We
made it, and thus, it counts as a species survival trait.

Oh, and don't for a second think "environmental equilibrium" counts.
Any species on earth could and would do exactly the same "consume until
nothing survives" process that we're doing. Without stopping to consider
the consequences for even the meager amount that we have.

The thing is, other forces inhibit the rest of the animal kingdom. And
thus far, we've proven unstopable."

you completely negated the issue by the word "cheat"

HA!

That makes the false assumption that the other species count as
children. They're not. So it's a failed analogy.

And I quoted the word "cheat"- meaning it's not cheating, but some might
try to say it is.

no I make the assumption that we all all part of the same ecosystem and
that it is our arrogance that assumes we are 'superior'.

a non-thread.... LMAO!

backtracking and complete refusal to even see a truth?

come on...

and, yes, we have been wiped out as a race. On more than one occasion.

The mere fact that we have been given chance after chance to get it
right shows in civilizations gone...

Yet, animals continue...

whatmore proof do you need? lol

Our ecosystem, whichever we're in, doesn't have any bearing at all on
our relative position in the universe. Be it spiritual or pragmatic.

And I'd like any evidence at all. We have a superior military to any
other nation on earth- we haven't destroyed all that many of them. Just
because something is better, does not mean other, lesser, things cannot
co-exist with it.

In the wild, sharks are faster, stronger, more powerful and more
effective in every way to the rhemora. And yet they get along quite well
with one another.

If you base all this on who's at the top of the food chain then I reckon
bacteria are.

rabbit eats plant, dog eats rabit, we eat all of them, bacteria eats us.

On that, you may have a point. But don't forget our immune system kills
quite a few trillion of them (more, in fact, than will be produced upon
our deaths) during our life.


Plus, the food chain only applies to predation or parasitism. It
doesn't count if something else killed the food before you got to it.

lol

ok. I give up on this thread.

you've given no proof. you go all over the damned bored, and jump from
one thing to the next without answering anything...

stroke that ego well...

Give me a question worth answering. Give me a reason we're NOT
superior. And mentioning biospheres is a limited approach. We can move
to other biospheres. Most species can't do that.

I've given plenty of examples of how we're top dog in this little
corner of the universe. Beholden of course to things like Gamma Wave
Bursts and the odd planet-killing solar flair.

But we're not asking if humans are superior to STARS here. We'd lose
that contest. We're asking about the rest of the organisms on our happy
little rock. In which case, we win. Actually, she just said organisms.
And I stated that if we run into extraterrestrial beings- or create or
own sapient genetic experiments- then we'll have competition. But for
the time being, humans are winning.

waah wah waahh wah...

learn to read.

you've been given many many proofs.

the end.

No, I've been given statements that are irrelevant.

Some stuff about all things being subjective- fun philosophy, and if
true, it could be a point. But humans cannot live in subjectivity.
Things lose any valuable meaning subjectively. The fact that you're
expecting me to defend myself proves you're not in pure subjectivity. In
a subjective world, there's no reason for anyone to defend anything.

As to the environmental stuff. Ecosystems. Biological differences. Etc.
I pointed out our technology. Which, as it's ours, counts as part of us
and gives us advantages far beyond any life-form.

The spiritual front was the easiest, of course. We have souls- true
divine spirits- animals don't. Unless you don't believe in that stuff,
in which case, it's a moot point. See arguments one and two.



Sorry, I have to play the entire field. That requires some jumping
around.

> jump from one thing to the next without answering anything...

ET, you are absolutely correct. And he appears to be sincerely,
completely unaware of it.

So, from a pragmatic sence- we win. How do we NOT win? There's nothing
an animal can do that we cannot. And plenty that we can do that no
animal can. Of course, there's plenty of things neither of us can do.
But the proving point was "superior"- not "perfect". 1 is superior to 2.
And 3 to 2. But there's an infinity out there that dwarfs them (and us)
all.

Oh, I'm aware of the jumping. I'm not aware of how it MATTERS. Does it
confuse you that I can use more than one subject to hold up my point?

omg, LOL!

clarity... common sense here.

you have been given proof.

not only are we all of the same make, nothing living is superior.

period.

bouncing around like a maniac makes you an avoider. not superior in any
sense at all.

dodge it, jump over it, run from it... I'll let you decide the label,
ok?

I will not be baited by ignorance.lol

too funny!

I'd love to hear your "proof". I've looked through everything and found
nothing I haven't already addressed. Debate works through
point/counterpoint. One person states something- the other states how
that doesn't work- and the first states the situations that make the
second's statement, if not wrong, than at least not completely
applicable to the point.


Bait, I might do, but not with ignorance. At least I'm not resorting to
insults.

Oh. And so what if we're the same make. A spear and a tank are made
from stuff found on the same planet. They both have the same function.
They're certainly not "the same".