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Topic: Are we superior?
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Thu 04/19/07 10:47 PM
Exactly, "superiority" really can't be established on the basis of one
isolated instance, be it man vs. mosquito, or man vs. shark.

Even the 1962 Mets won 40 baseball games.

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Thu 04/19/07 10:49 PM
no. we are really kind of stupid!... just look at what we aRE DOING TO
THIS EARTH.

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Thu 04/19/07 10:50 PM
someone might find a pill for a living organism that might kill us but
that doesn't mean that the organism isn't going to evolve into something
stronger. Something that we might not beable to fight off and at the end
we are a destroyed organism...like i keep saying...sharks, bacteria,
humans or anything else..we are all equally superior in our own way.

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Thu 04/19/07 10:54 PM


We've deinitely had the most profound impact on our environment compared
to other species

Superior? that's just our ego's talking....


indifferent

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Thu 04/19/07 10:55 PM
THE MORE I KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE THE MORE I LIKE MY CATS AND DOGS!laugh
laugh laugh

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Fri 04/20/07 05:04 AM
>> We've deinitely had the most profound impact on our environment compared
to other species

At least since the invention of chlorophyll...

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Fri 04/20/07 07:17 AM
The very notion that 'humans' can entertain this 'DISTORTED THOUGHT'
that they might be superior, almost as a matter of fact, without
questionning, IS the 'curse' of this illusion-fabricating primate we
are.

While raising the question is very interesting Redykeulous, the notion
itself of being superior is so indicative of how primitive we are as a
species.

FEAR is what raises the notion of 'superiority', nothing else. This
fight or flight instinct, from this primitive brain we share with all
primates, is where the notion of fear comes from, when 'observed' by
our 'observing' neo-cortex).

Evolution had this primate we are, develop this neo-cortex (the other
brain with a VERY LIMITED ABILITY TO RATIONALIZE, THINK, AND JUDGE),
that's the only thing that distinguishes us form other primates. It is
IMO, a curse, much more than a blessing. This neo-cortex, with its very
limited consciousness (creates a whole lot of confusion), rationalizes
(decided) that fear must be avoided in order to be safe. Thus, it
'fabricated' this 'concept' and 'illusion' of 'superiority', providing
the superstition to most humans that we are 'safer' than other non human
species. "...look at all the 'stuff' we can make and do!!!"
Makes me tink of: "...LOOK 'MA, NO HANDS!!!

This pretentious illusion of a superior race has turned us into the
first ever species responsible for the extinction of millions of species
on this planet. Soon we might be right about our own imagined fear, and
extinct ourselves.

The sooner we use the little consciousness we have, to realize as the
large family of humans we are, that we are just here to be part of this
much bigger game. Much bigger than just the little 'superior' human race
'game'.

That this mystery of life itself, is just that, a mystery. How insane to
pretend that our delusional, self-fabricated superior 'powers' gives us
the code to crack the mystery. We're here as part of it, not as 'owners'
or 'partners' with some invented 'creator'.

PROFOUND HUMILITY, much more than this sense of delusional superiority,
is the antidote IMO, to our fears, suffering and hopeless
self-destructive tendencies.

Be in awe of this life you are a part of. As 'Abracadabra' mentionned
in another post: ... just respect whom and what you are in this life
time, NO MORE, AND NO LESS (I'm paraphrasing 'Abra'. Hope i'm on the
money).

As for the rest, IT will take care of itself.

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Fri 04/20/07 08:22 AM
The animal kingdom has shown many species that do feel selflessly...or,
to some extent.
Some species (in fact many, if you look it up), are all begun as
females. The male genes needed during whatever process is going on at
the time, gives them the ability to adapt to a variety of environments.
Some, even duplicate themselves without ever having a male...(I believe
this is an insect variety, though I forget the species).

I think nature itself is the ultimate thing. We are in no way superior
to an species, I feel. And, I also believe that humans have a long way
to go...
Think about the short amount of time we have evolved into sciences... as
compared to our length of time on the planet...

wow

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Fri 04/20/07 09:10 AM
Ok, how are we defining "superiority".

If we're talking biological abilities- we're in the shallow part of the
gene pool- especially insofar as "predatory" species go.

If we're talking our ability to shape the world around us. We WIN-
hands down- we don't even have the slightest competition.

If we're talking value.... well.... a human life is more important to
me than any other organism I'VE ever met.



But, ultimately, we have souls. That's what truly seperates us. And if
you've ever met a true sociopath, you'd know what a "soul" truly means.
That's what we'd be without it.

Maybe one day this or some other planet will spring forth something
equal or superior to us. Hell, there's a pretty good chance we'll MAKE
whatever it is. But until that moment, we've proven our birthright as
masters of this world.

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Fri 04/20/07 09:26 AM
and yet...
mother nature may strike you down in a heartbeat...

I think we forget how insignificant we really are sometimes...

animals also have spirit. or, at least an energy that changes and
becomes part of the layered dimensions all around us...

To force a will upon, ar at another doesn't make us superior in any
way... it actually shows just how much fear is instilled into us.
Survival.

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Fri 04/20/07 09:41 AM
humans are definatly superior

when it comes to destoying other species

thus eventually destroying themselves

just a thought

but hey what do i know

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Fri 04/20/07 09:44 AM
So, we, like all things, die.

Our minds are ascendant, our souls divine, but our bodies are just
another animal. As any good master, we must know the feelings of our
servants. We share all the emotions of all the beasts. The thrill of the
hunt, the fear of being hunted. The flavor of flesh and of leaves. So on
and so forth.

We really are the one animal on earth that can know every feeling of
every animal.

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Fri 04/20/07 09:57 AM
our souls are not divine until we've mastered the lessons.
once we understand we are not superior to anything, then we can become
enlightened...and, even this is a journey.

other species kill htier own, robin...

Tasmanian devils, others...

Having the ability to kill, or destroy another is not superior.

when we become the blade of grass, and the dew upon it to drop into the
earth...

having the ability to commit an act of any kind, is an ability, not a
superiority...

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Fri 04/20/07 10:05 AM
Our souls are divine by virtue of their origins. We can choose to sully
them. Or we can choose to refine them to something even greater. But
we're divine beings by virtue of having them. If they weren't, there
would be no crime in murder beyond that of destroying someone else's
property.

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Fri 04/20/07 10:05 AM
i think you missed my point nene'

i was being sarcastic

the human race is superiour at destruction of themselves and others

thus in reality making them inferiour

when it is all said and done

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Fri 04/20/07 10:16 AM
Of course, we shouldn't abuse our status. Abuse of power never ends
well. And mismanagement always results in harm. We have the power to
reshape the world to our will. And the responsibility to do it right.

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Fri 04/20/07 10:22 AM
yeah, I know...lol.

Having the ability to be divine by acts, is still not superior.

All souls have a choice, always.

the only time we transcend into purity is once we let go of any ideation
of superiority?

once there is no ego, super ego...

only then.

by that time we are not man, animal, mineral.

we just are.

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Fri 04/20/07 10:32 AM
Sounds taoist to me.


My philosophy pursues unity. We're best when we truly unite our animal,
mental, and spiritual selves. To seek to deny or subvert our own nature
is not enlightenment, only dismemberment.

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Fri 04/20/07 10:34 AM
lol

that's what I just said...

once past he egos... everything is one. all energy, all.
One circles, and continuous chain of Us...

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Fri 04/20/07 10:45 AM
But individuality is what makes us what we are. To meld with the world
around us may be an adventure awaiting us after death. But for our time
in the corporeal world, we're designed to be seperated. To be free. To
fight that is counter-productive.

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