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I think you should know before you date!
Would you knowingly go to bed with someone who had AIDS? Finances are the same thing almost. |
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Whew! That was a relief. I see Andy, Irish, or Italian in a sentence I begin to get worried. I am 1/4 Irish, 1/2 Italian, 1/4 Sicilian.
I also used to drink a lot. These days I do but rarely. I also get accused a lot of some honked up Sheat. On another thread someone insinuated I was a member of the velvet underground. Thanks everyone for letting me off the hook!!!!!! By the way my name is Andy too. It is actually Andreas but it was not my Fault!!! And yes, the four major sticking points in a relationship, honesty, Communication, money, religion. Viva Amore |
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Edited by
angelindarkness
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Sun 01/04/09 05:48 PM
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That's Amore ~ Dean Martin
In Napoli where love is king When boy meets girl here's what they say When the moon hits you eye like a big pizza pie That's amore When the world seems to shine like you've had too much wine That's amore Bells will ring ting-a-ling-a-ling, ting-a-ling-a-ling And you'll sing "Vita bella" Hearts will play tippy-tippy-tay, tippy-tippy-tay Like a gay tarantella When the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool That's amore When you dance down the street with a cloud at your feet You're in love When you walk down in a dream but you know you're not Dreaming signore Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Napoli That's amore (When the moon hits you eye like a big pizza pie That's amore When the world seems to shine like you've had too much wine That's amore Bells will ring ting-a-ling-a-ling, ting-a-ling-a-ling And you'll sing "Vita bella" Hearts will play tippy-tippy-tay, tippy-tippy-tay Like a gay tarantella When the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool) That's amore (When you dance down the street with a cloud at your feet You're in love When you walk down in a dream but you know you're not Dreaming signore Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Napoli) That's amore Lucky fella When the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool) That's amore (When you dance down the street with a cloud at your feet You're in love When you walk down in a dream but you know you're not Dreaming signore Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Napoli) That's amore, (amore) That's amore |
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Please find that and quote it. Tell you what, when you find the quotes that I asked you to find, I'll go and do the same. What have you ever asked me to find? You have REPEATEDLY stated that I am some kind of terribly, selfish woman who would leave any man as soon as I were to know that he had bad credit. Untrue of course. In that case, you are advocating for dishonesty. I cant go along with that without complaint. How quickly you forget. Read back up through the thread, I think it was 3 consecutive posts where I asked you to find where I had said something. |
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Would you knowingly go to bed with someone who had AIDS? It's not even in the same ballpark as poor credit rating! |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Sun 01/04/09 06:56 PM
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Please find that and quote it. Tell you what, when you find the quotes that I asked you to find, I'll go and do the same. What have you ever asked me to find? You have REPEATEDLY stated that I am some kind of terribly, selfish woman who would leave any man as soon as I were to know that he had bad credit. Untrue of course. In that case, you are advocating for dishonesty. I cant go along with that without complaint. How quickly you forget. Read back up through the thread, I think it was 3 consecutive posts where I asked you to find where I had said something. Well are you unable just to write it down? What the hell? Besides, I just summed it up. You have over and over again on this thread insisted that I am a self centered, awful woman because I would not marry a man with a bad past financial history. In that case, how would I know unless you willfully kept this information hidden from me? This is the question you have been asked by a couple posters now and yet you fail to answer. |
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I think you should know before you date! Would you knowingly go to bed with someone who had AIDS? Finances are the same thing almost. |
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andy You are advocating for dishonesty in the fact that there is no way I could make an informed decision on whether or not to remain with a person in major financial difficulty if I did not know this and it was kept secret from me in some respect. I have to disagree. Love 101 does his deception break your trust? did his evasiveness break your trust? Did you ask? If you did and he lied to you, you were deceived. HOW IN THE HECK do you conclude that I advocate dishonesty? I DO NOT AT ALL! I hope you didn't co mingle credit? My mother refused to when she got married the second time. It was a GOOD thing she didn't. My mom just about has her house paid off and she is about to retire with all of her retirement bases covered. She divorced the choad and her second husband had to leave town and left in DEEP debt. Was she wrong to protect herself? You have to cover your ass and a good man will always remind you of that! A good man will admit to his debt! If he lies and you are faked out and you find out later and you feel hurt don't get mad at us! The psychological term for that is Displacement. It is not us you should be mad at and not yourself. We didn't lie. If hanging your hat with a liar makes you happy so be it. If it doesn't then the answer is obvious! I am only partially Irish, like a quarter only. The rest is something else a little more southern European. Not AndyBGood. Talldub. The posts go one on top of another . His real name is Andy. I agree with you 100%. I have been an advocate for total honesty once the relationship meets that level of disclosure. It is wrong to conceal fiances no matter how bad they are from another. He is from Ireland and some other person was calling him an Irish liar. NOT ME. I am Irish/Italian myself. Actually it's Andrew. And the person calling me a liar is a friend, am pretty certain it was being used sarcastically. Honesty I'm all up for. A relationship should be based on openness and trust, amongst things. Again, I'm saying that you know about the persons poor credit rating and that the cause of the poor credit rating is not be of their own (direct) doing, maybe a health issue caused them to have to stop working. Sh!t happens to people, does it mean that they should be tossed aside because of it? I'm not advocating that you hook up with someone that makes terrible spending choices and is going to screw up your life. What I am saying is that a credit rating is just a number, no more, no less. It is not a measure of the person and, IMO, if you're going to be with someone then it should be because of who they are on an emotional and intellectual level, not how much they make or whether they can afford the same things as you. I see people who have married as they are both earning lots of money and money attracts money but there's no real love and their children (and they) suffer from it. Sure, they have all the trinkets and gadgets they could desire but as a species that's not what we really need. I know people that could barely keep a roof over their heads but they're far happier. I'm not saying that possessions are not important to us but if you've got a roof over your head, food in your stomach and a partner/family that loves and cares for you then really you already have everything that you need and you're far luckier than a hell of a lot of people on this planet. Can you give an example of honesty in a relationship? Would that be misrepresenting yourself and your future plans? Oh wait, no that's not honest. Would that be not being honest to your family about your dating status? Oh wait, that's not honest either. I'm sorry I'm having a difficult time understanding a practical application of honesty in a relationship.... Can you give me one from your personal life? |
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I'm sorry I'm having a difficult time understanding a practical application of honesty in a relationship.... Can you give me one from your personal life? Sure, by letting Alison know that I wasn't interested in the same TV shows as her I never felt forced to watch them with her and she never badgered me into doing so. A practical application of honesty in a relationship. |
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I'm sorry I'm having a difficult time understanding a practical application of honesty in a relationship.... Can you give me one from your personal life? Sure, by letting Alison know that I wasn't interested in the same TV shows as her I never felt forced to watch them with her and she never badgered me into doing so. A practical application of honesty in a relationship. Well I'm glad you have one to offer up for my understanding. |
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I'm sorry I'm having a difficult time understanding a practical application of honesty in a relationship.... Can you give me one from your personal life? Sure, by letting Alison know that I wasn't interested in the same TV shows as her I never felt forced to watch them with her and she never badgered me into doing so. A practical application of honesty in a relationship. Well I'm glad you have one to offer up for my understanding. Glad to be of help. |
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I'm sorry I'm having a difficult time understanding a practical application of honesty in a relationship.... Can you give me one from your personal life? Sure, by letting Alison know that I wasn't interested in the same TV shows as her I never felt forced to watch them with her and she never badgered me into doing so. A practical application of honesty in a relationship. Well I'm glad you have one to offer up for my understanding. Glad to be of help. Yes, thank you, I do have a full grasp of what you consider to be honesty in a relationship now. |
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So would anyone get involved with anyone who did not tell you that they had debts, that they were not making any payments? I would not, as that’s a lie and if there going to lie about that to you then what else are they going to lie about? but if they did tell you would you get involved with them ? There is a big defference between not telling someone something that may or may not be any of their business at anypoint in time, and flat out lieing about it. Personally my financial situation and debts are my business and no one elses until I choose it to be. |
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I would consider honesty in a relationship the ability to fully disclose finances and not keep anything hidden.
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I'm sorry I'm having a difficult time understanding a practical application of honesty in a relationship.... Can you give me one from your personal life? Sure, by letting Alison know that I wasn't interested in the same TV shows as her I never felt forced to watch them with her and she never badgered me into doing so. A practical application of honesty in a relationship. Well I'm glad you have one to offer up for my understanding. Glad to be of help. Yes, thank you, I do have a full grasp of what you consider to be honesty in a relationship now. A full grasp from just one example? Sounds like you're jumping the gun there. |
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I'm sorry I'm having a difficult time understanding a practical application of honesty in a relationship.... Can you give me one from your personal life? Sure, by letting Alison know that I wasn't interested in the same TV shows as her I never felt forced to watch them with her and she never badgered me into doing so. A practical application of honesty in a relationship. Well I'm glad you have one to offer up for my understanding. Glad to be of help. Yes, thank you, I do have a full grasp of what you consider to be honesty in a relationship now. A full grasp from just one example? Sounds like you're jumping the gun there. Oh, I'm good with people, I'm a pretty perceptive person. |
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I'm sorry I'm having a difficult time understanding a practical application of honesty in a relationship.... Can you give me one from your personal life? Sure, by letting Alison know that I wasn't interested in the same TV shows as her I never felt forced to watch them with her and she never badgered me into doing so. A practical application of honesty in a relationship. Well I'm glad you have one to offer up for my understanding. Glad to be of help. Yes, thank you, I do have a full grasp of what you consider to be honesty in a relationship now. A full grasp from just one example? Sounds like you're jumping the gun there. Oh, I'm good with people, I'm a pretty perceptive person. Really? It sounds more like you're prone to leaping to conclusions. Whatever works for you is all that matters though. Night! |
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I would consider honesty in a relationship the ability to fully disclose finances and not keep anything hidden. I get that a lot. But usually from gold-diggers trying to find out how much they can get from me and trying to hide behind "Honesty" Thanks but thats my business not yours. I'm not lying to you, I'm just not telling you something that isn't your business. It also depends on what point of your relationship you at too. If your getting ready to get married then I see your point. but if you have only been dating for a year or two and it's not moving to marrage, then no, it isn't anyones business. |
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Really? It sounds more like you're prone to leaping to conclusions. Whatever works for you is all that matters though. Night! Oh no, jumping to conclusions is not my cup of whiskey.... I make fully educated conclusions based on a vast array of information. Have a wonderful night, tell me how you feel in the morning when you look at yourself in the mirror. |
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It also depends on what point of your relationship you at too. If your getting ready to get married then I see your point. but if you have only been dating for a year or two and it's not moving to marrage, then no, it isn't anyones business.
Scroll back. That has been my position this entire thread. Also I am hardly a "gold digger". I have excellent credit and am completely self sufficient. So in that case I have a lot to protect. I would need to know the spending habits and current financial standing of any man with which I choose to enter into a serious relationship with or co-habitation situation. |
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