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If someone wants to utter a silent prayer to themselves, whats the harm. There is no reason to have a specific "prayer time" in public, state funded schools because then you are singling out Christianity and giving it a place of privilege. I agree.if a Muslim or anyone wants to pray go to the bathroom.Great acoustics and no one gives a crap. 
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Well thats just the point. Are you gonna sit there and tell the Muslim kids or the Jewish kids or the Wiccan kids or the Hindu kids sorry, make way for the big JC. Thats a load of crap.
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If someone wants to utter a silent prayer to themselves, whats the harm. There is no reason to have a specific "prayer time" in public, state funded schools because then you are singling out Christianity and giving it a place of privilege. I agree.if a Muslim or anyone wants to pray go to the bathroom.Great acoustics and no one gives a crap.
I would agree if we only had to religions in this country, but just wait, Muslims will not be the last to demand time as the christians have. What is the problem with dealing with your faith before school and not in school? Can anyone see a problem with this, it would solve the whole problem. |
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Well thats just the point. Are you gonna sit there and tell the Muslim kids or the Jewish kids or the Wiccan kids or the Hindu kids sorry, make way for the big JC. Thats a load of crap. My point is no one should be praying in public school and if you must, go to the one room where no one cares . |
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If someone wants to utter a silent prayer to themselves, whats the harm. There is no reason to have a specific "prayer time" in public, state funded schools because then you are singling out Christianity and giving it a place of privilege. I agree.if a Muslim or anyone wants to pray go to the bathroom.Great acoustics and no one gives a crap.
I would agree if we only had to religions in this country, but just wait, Muslims will not be the last to demand time as the christians have. What is the problem with dealing with your faith before school and not in school? Can anyone see a problem with this, it would solve the whole problem. Well I do believe thats why they built churches,mosques,temples etc so you can go and worship in a place of peace and learn the tenets of your chosen faith.Public school is not a house of worship nor should it be. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Mon 12/22/08 06:22 PM
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Thats what I just said, you cant allow one group to pray and not another. Not in any other rooms. Nowhere. Because you cant observe one deity or spirituality or one type of prayer to the exclusion of all others. It becomes unrealistic to allow for ALL forms of religious expression. If thats what you meant, then I apologize.
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Thats what I just said, you cant allow one group to pray and not another. Not in any other rooms. Nowhere. Because you cant have observe form of prayer to the exclusion of all others. It becomes unrealistic to allow for ALL form of religious expression. If thats what you meant, then I apologize. It's what I meant but I made a poor attempt at humor.Peace 
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No problem, I just misunderstood you.
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The staff is usually praying no one kills anybody. Amen to that. 
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If there is not a better argument then you all just need to quit. In any given classroom there may be as many beliefs as there are students. If a teacher gave every student their RIGHT to exercise their beliefs as they wanted, how long before the students realized they could do it all day long. .
And when schools deny students the right to pray before eating lunch? Or to pray before or after school, on school property? Both of these things have been attempted, and are examples of government trying to restrict the free exercise of religion. People can pray quietly in their head before they eat. |
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I hear Christians say they pray to themselves all the time and if you do that, no one knows and there is no problem. Anyone of any faith should be able to do that and not just Christians. If you dont allow one group to pray, you cant allow another. However you can pray as loud or as much as you want on your own time or in church or where ever else.
It doesnt seem like an absurd demand to place on anyone. |
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If there is not a better argument then you all just need to quit. In any given classroom there may be as many beliefs as there are students. If a teacher gave every student their RIGHT to exercise their beliefs as they wanted, how long before the students realized they could do it all day long. .
And when schools deny students the right to pray before eating lunch? Or to pray before or after school, on school property? Both of these things have been attempted, and are examples of government trying to restrict the free exercise of religion. People can pray quietly in their head before they eat. Not to mention test...and for teachers before some classes come in. 
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I hear Christians say they pray to themselves all the time and if you do that, no one knows and there is no problem. Anyone of any faith should be able to do that and not just Christians. If you dont allow one group to pray, you cant allow another. However you can pray as loud or as much as you want on your own time or in church or where ever else. It doesnt seem like an absurd demand to place on anyone. I think it should be equal time for everybody or no time for nobody. Everybody should be treated equally. |
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The only problem with recognizing the spirituality of all students is there probably would not be enough time or resources to give each an equal form of expression. Some would argue that since Christianity is the dominant religion in the US, then it should just be Christian prayer but that is not right. Not with students of other faiths and not when the bills for the schools are paid for in part by the parents of those students of diverse faiths.
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The only problem with recognizing the spirituality of all students is there probably would not be enough time or resources to give each an equal form of expression. Some would argue that since Christianity is the dominant religion in the US, then it should just be Christian prayer but that is not right. Not with students of other faiths and not when the bills for the schools are paid for in part by the parents of those students of diverse faiths. You should try teaching World History/Geography...which by many state standards requires you to cover the primary religions of different regions. |
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I know there is a tiny minority of Christians who want to have officially sanctioned prayer is school, but the vast majority of conservatives just want the school to leave little Johnny alone when he says a prayer before lunch. And if little Barrack wants to say a little prayer to Allah before lunch that is okay to.
One of the minor little details that many people do not seem to understand is that a central part of conservative philosophy is that the government should not endorse any one religion or attack any one religion. Conservatives do not want the government mandating religion in schools or elsewhere. Of course I am aware that not everyone on the right is a true conservative. In fact I am not 100% in agreement with the conservative philosophy, but that is a discussion for another day. |
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I know there is a tiny minority of Christians who want to have officially sanctioned prayer is school, but the vast majority of conservatives just want the school to leave little Johnny alone when he says a prayer before lunch. And if little Barrack wants to say a little prayer to Allah before lunch that is okay to. One of the minor little details that many people do not seem to understand is that a central part of conservative philosophy is that the government should not endorse any one religion or attack any one religion. Conservatives do not want the government mandating religion in schools or elsewhere. Of course I am aware that not everyone on the right is a true conservative. In fact I am not 100% in agreement with the conservative philosophy, but that is a discussion for another day. Little Barack? Now your true colors are showing. Little Johnny can pray at lunch. He can say it in his head. This is coming from a Christian. Everybody should be treated equally. |
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Little Barrack and Allah? Dang you just couldn't help youself huh?
Pray before school, it's that simple, why does any faith have to have their faith up front of at all. Again it's a public school correct? What is prayer doing in public school. Can anyone answer that for me? |
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Little Barrack and Allah? Dang you just couldn't help youself huh? Pray before school, it's that simple, why does any faith have to have their faith up front of at all. Again it's a public school correct? What is prayer doing in public school. Can anyone answer that for me? umm I'm not sure but I am under the impression tha muslims are required to pray at the appointed time no matter where they are or what they are doing as for Christian kids I dont see a problem with giving them devotional time as long as no one is requiring it or denying it |
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"if little Barrack wants to say a little prayer to Allah before lunch that is okay to."
Sorry but WTH (abbreviated) is that? A none so subtle suggestion still after all this that Obama is a Muslim? I have to say it... WTF (abbreviated) is so wrong if he is? Mr. Powell was right on this. Tell me...if he was a Muslim what is wrong with that? Look around you...take in the behavior of your fellow citizen, your fellow American and your fellow Christian. Tell me they have got it all right?? If one God created us all, sat us down in this this diverse and wonderful world and gave us free will only to allow one small minded group to dictate his will...well I think looking around at those that speak for him I might doubt divinity. I do not. |
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