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Josh_P_Rad88's photo
Thu 12/11/08 12:52 PM

my parents are married.. their 30th wedding anniversary is coming up in march. my mom is overweight.. she doesnt b!tch about it.. she accepts herself for who she is.. my dad loves her as much overweight as he ever could if she were model thin.. my parents spend their lives telling me that they love me.. *granted i did have middle child syndrome.. but that had nothing to do with my weight.. just my invisibility at sporting events etc*
my mother did not read cosmo.. vougue.. any of the traditional magazines.. she read taste of home.. and things like that..

at the age of 13.. i was the biggest girl in my class. tallest.. and fattest.. i stoped eating.. my friends all read cosmo...teen.. seventeen.. i saw the skinny models, i saw my friends.. all skinny and beautiful..
i was never good enough.. in my head..

i took small enough portions that if i spread the food around my plate it looked as if i ate..
my anorexia was not the fault of my parents.. it was the fault of my mental image of myself..
my friends all had bf's.. i was alone.. my friends were all sking.. i was alone.. my friends all had the perfect lives.. i was alone.. thats how things went in my head.. my mom realized some time later what i was doing..
oddly enough.. by then i was so hungry that a good grounding took care of it. but the thoughts are still there..



look im not gonna sit here and argue with u or damn ur parents but had ur parents not allowed u too get like that (my parents allowed me too get pretty dam big) than it wouldnt have happend, all it takes is some info and hard work and almost no one (some people no matter what cant lose weight) has to be big and therefore almost no one owuld ever even think about anorexia

SamaraNJ's photo
Thu 12/11/08 12:52 PM
Edited by SamaraNJ on Thu 12/11/08 12:54 PM

my parents are married.. their 30th wedding anniversary is coming up in march. my mom is overweight.. she doesnt b!tch about it.. she accepts herself for who she is.. my dad loves her as much overweight as he ever could if she were model thin.. my parents spend their lives telling me that they love me.. *granted i did have middle child syndrome.. but that had nothing to do with my weight.. just my invisibility at sporting events etc*
my mother did not read cosmo.. vougue.. any of the traditional magazines.. she read taste of home.. and things like that..

at the age of 13.. i was the biggest girl in my class. tallest.. and fattest.. i stoped eating.. my friends all read cosmo...teen.. seventeen.. i saw the skinny models, i saw my friends.. all skinny and beautiful..
i was never good enough.. in my head..

i took small enough portions that if i spread the food around my plate it looked as if i ate..
my anorexia was not the fault of my parents.. it was the fault of my mental image of myself..
my friends all had bf's.. i was alone.. my friends were all sking.. i was alone.. my friends all had the perfect lives.. i was alone.. thats how things went in my head.. my mom realized some time later what i was doing..
oddly enough.. by then i was so hungry that a good grounding took care of it. but the thoughts are still there..




You said you felt that way in your head...
It wasn't your parents fault...
You didn't say you felt it was you're classmates, movies, television or magazines fault.. I'd like to know what you thought of them..
What you just said is what I think people should do.. You can't control what happens around you but you can control what happens inside you..


ok this editing this part here...
*What I mean by what people should do.. is admit their own responsibility and feelings and choices.. and not blame others..
I'm starting to repeat myself too much here.. so Im gonna just lay back and observe for a bit..

izzie's photo
Thu 12/11/08 12:57 PM

look im not gonna sit here and argue with u or damn ur parents but had ur parents not allowed u too get like that (my parents allowed me too get pretty dam big) than it wouldnt have happend, all it takes is some info and hard work and almost no one (some people no matter what cant lose weight) has to be big and therefore almost no one owuld ever even think about anorexia
oh i forgot that part.. i was not fat..
i was below average for the american 13 yr old at the time..
the girls in my class (except one.. who moved there in the middle of the year and was the same size as me) were smaller than average.. but i was not large.. i was a 13yr old girl.. who was wearing a size 16 girls.. thats aucutualy not very large..

but you can blaim whoever you want..
it was the fault of ME.. not my parents..not my peers.. not the society.. i looked around and was ashamed of me.. they all loved and adored me.. they never said anythign to me about my weight.. they thought i was fun and caring and compasinate..
the problem was me.. i looked around and was envious of what i thought i wanted.. but not at the cost it took..
blaim whomever you want..
but im just saying.. not EVERY instance is the same..
sometimes its society.. sometimes its the parents.. and SOMETIMES.. its not..
jmo

Winx's photo
Thu 12/11/08 03:57 PM
Izzie,

My best friend in college was hiding bulimia. She was a tiny little thing and very pretty. I found out that every time we ate, she went to the bathroom to vomit.

I found out when she got married and couldn't conceive. Her body was getting messed up and she wasn't having periods. Her teeth were getting bad from the acid from the vomit.

This is what she told me. She is from a large family. All of the girls were very pretty. She felt jealous of her sisters' prettiness. She said that when she looked into the mirror, she didn't see pretty she saw a girl that couldn't look like her sisters or the women in the magazines.

She started out force vomiting now and then. Then she crossed that line into the disease and got much worse.

She ended up having children, btw.

This is one of the cases that I know personally. The rest I know of through work.


Winx's photo
Thu 12/11/08 03:59 PM

my parents are married.. their 30th wedding anniversary is coming up in march. my mom is overweight.. she doesnt b!tch about it.. she accepts herself for who she is.. my dad loves her as much overweight as he ever could if she were model thin.. my parents spend their lives telling me that they love me.. *granted i did have middle child syndrome.. but that had nothing to do with my weight.. just my invisibility at sporting events etc*
my mother did not read cosmo.. vougue.. any of the traditional magazines.. she read taste of home.. and things like that..

at the age of 13.. i was the biggest girl in my class. tallest.. and fattest.. i stoped eating.. my friends all read cosmo...teen.. seventeen.. i saw the skinny models, i saw my friends.. all skinny and beautiful..
i was never good enough.. in my head..

i took small enough portions that if i spread the food around my plate it looked as if i ate..
my anorexia was not the fault of my parents.. it was the fault of my mental image of myself..
my friends all had bf's.. i was alone.. my friends were all sking.. i was alone.. my friends all had the perfect lives.. i was alone.. thats how things went in my head.. my mom realized some time later what i was doing..
oddly enough.. by then i was so hungry that a good grounding took care of it. but the thoughts are still there..




You're lucky that it didn't get worse.flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Thu 12/11/08 04:01 PM





look you guys are throwing the blame elsewhere except where it belongs parents, end of story u can say all u want about society but a child view on society comes from his or her parents, and yes i do know about anorexia ive had friends in the past that had it, its horrible, but like with drugs its a mindfck thats it.

o and i didnt miss spell stock, i used thew wrong stock thats not a miss spelling its a syntax tongue2


It's not the parents' fault!!

That's like saying Autism is the parents' fault.

I guess you know more then the doctors.

no autism is genetic and a lot deeper than anorexia, and honestly babe some doctors are as smart as a bag of rocks, anorexia is more like a mental disorder


For many years people blamed the parents for their child's Autism.

Yes, anorexia is a mental disorder. Hence ....doctors.

Josh, since you are raising a child, please check the American Pediatric Association website regarding this subject. It discusses the causes.flowerforyou

i will thank you but honestly im highly skeptical of doctors i put a lot of faith and effort in to preventive type medicine such as strict diets and exercise, to go along with keeping all lines off comunication open amd keeping honesty the most important thing no matter what



o and ruth thats fine be stubborn that ur choice, cuz im the same and wont be convinced that a magazine is gonna make neice become anorexic, wont happen


Why "strict diets"? Why not just healthy eating? Why not exercise to just be healthy and have fun?

TelephoneMan's photo
Thu 12/11/08 05:10 PM


it's not the topic or debate that is exhausting.. what's exhausting is trying to persuade B to see A's side... or B continuing to try to persuade A to change his or her mind... If both A and B are firm in their beliefs thats fine.. discuss it.. bring up facts.. whatever A and B think.. but just because A and B dont' end the discussion with the same views doesn't mean it's a waste of time..


and some people argue just for the sake of arguing


exactly... and obsessive arguing is a mental disorder...

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 12/11/08 09:44 PM
I believe the Dove campaign for real beauty is an exclusive internet campaign, could be wrong though. Here is the link for anyone interested in it: http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/

I think they are trying to do something very noble with this, the influence that TV/internet alike have on younger children is so vast that I think doing a campaign like this exclusively on the internet is the best way to go. It really is quite interesting to see just how much photoshop plays a role for banners and picture ads, I used to do the same thing for fun (cartoon characters to illustrate the simplicity of doing things like that with a program like photoshop).

907daydreamer's photo
Thu 12/11/08 09:54 PM

I believe the Dove campaign for real beauty is an exclusive internet campaign, could be wrong though. Here is the link for anyone interested in it: http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/

I think they are trying to do something very noble with this, the influence that TV/internet alike have on younger children is so vast that I think doing a campaign like this exclusively on the internet is the best way to go. It really is quite interesting to see just how much photoshop plays a role for banners and picture ads, I used to do the same thing for fun (cartoon characters to illustrate the simplicity of doing things like that with a program like photoshop).


yeah I posted about this earlier.
it's a really great thing for them to do.
but in all honesty after reading this thread
it should be clear that the media is going to do what they do
and it is the responsibility of a parent to teach of the media's fictitious nature.
it is not the fault of your drug dealer if you get hooked.
I have seen anorexia and bulimia
and the people who recover make a decision to.
saying anything less would diminish their efforts.

Josh_P_Rad88's photo
Thu 12/11/08 10:03 PM


I believe the Dove campaign for real beauty is an exclusive internet campaign, could be wrong though. Here is the link for anyone interested in it: http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/

I think they are trying to do something very noble with this, the influence that TV/internet alike have on younger children is so vast that I think doing a campaign like this exclusively on the internet is the best way to go. It really is quite interesting to see just how much photoshop plays a role for banners and picture ads, I used to do the same thing for fun (cartoon characters to illustrate the simplicity of doing things like that with a program like photoshop).


yeah I posted about this earlier.
it's a really great thing for them to do.
but in all honesty after reading this thread
it should be clear that the media is going to do what they do
and it is the responsibility of a parent to teach of the media's fictitious nature.
it is not the fault of your drug dealer if you get hooked.
I have seen anorexia and bulimia
and the people who recover make a decision to.
saying anything less would diminish their efforts.


i think u said it a lot better than i did....r u a writer?

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