Topic: The oldest bible has contradictions!! | |
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There's no Scientific way to determine who's is more credible... That, we know for sure.
That's an interesting concept that might be worth an entire thread by itself. The reason I say that is because my first thought when reading it was "Might it be just as likely that our mind holds the key to our heart?"
Could it be as simple as our heart holding the key to our mind? Just a thought. Could it be as simple as our heart holding the key to our mind and our mind holding the key to our heart? |
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hey, and why do we have to jump through so many hoops to be loved by god? I am a parent and I think I love my child unconditionally. I guide and teach him to be a caring thought good person, when he makes a mistake I still love him. If god can't separate our hearts from the deeds as Abra say what kind of parent is that. A crappy one. I would be calling CPS asap. |
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There's no Scientific way to determine who's is more credible... That, we know for sure.
That's an interesting concept that might be worth an entire thread by itself. The reason I say that is because my first thought when reading it was "Might it be just as likely that our mind holds the key to our heart?"
Could it be as simple as our heart holding the key to our mind? Just a thought. |
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could it be as simple as believing science and that which is right in our faces? or clinging to a 3000 y/o book full of impossible stories?
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Edited by
feralcatlady
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Tue 10/07/08 12:48 PM
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The Latin Vulgate is a translation into 'common' (vulgar, thereby vulgate) Latin completed by Jerome in 383 CE. Jerome did the translation himself directly from the Hebrew, and today it is commonly known as The Vulgate. However, there is a much older Latin version of the Bible, used for centuries by Christendom. This version, called The Old Latin Vulgate (or Itala), is known to have been in existence by AD 157. Church father Turtullian, in his own writings dated around 200 C.E, cited various Latin quotations directly from The Old Latin Vulgate. This "original" vulgate (Latin) version continued to be used for nearly a millennium, until Latin basically ceased being a common language. What is the oldest Bible version? Consider the original recipients of Scripture. God, in communicating His love for man and His desire for a loving relationship with them, set apart an individual through whom He would communicate and illustrate that love. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their descendants became that vehicle. And the very first portions of Scripture (God's message to man) were written in their language, which was Hebrew. Portions of the Old Testament in Hebrew date back several hundred years further than either the Greek or Latin versions. With the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, manuscripts now exist from as early as 168 B.C., and confirm that Hebrew was still the language used by Jews during the time of Christ. In fact, their discovery has helped establish the preciseness and integrity of Hebrew scribes in accurately reproducing manuscripts throughout the ages. The oldest Bible versions available to us today are millennia old. The Masoretic Text, written in Hebrew, became the standard authorized Hebrew text around 100 AD. It existed prior to the writings of the New Testament, confirmed by the Dead Sea Scrolls as early as 168 B.C., and was used as the official Hebrew Old Testament at the time the biblical canon was established. So what is the significance of all this, you ask? The significance lies in love. God's love for you! His story is a love story, a story which began millennia ago. Across the centuries, His love has guarded it and protected it. Today, it lies within your own hands. Don't let it slip through your fingers. God's love cherished you. Open His gift today and discover your love story written across its pages. How odd my post shows specific dates....and not one for your oldest bible..... |
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but its just that feral, a story, a story supposedly written by men from ages where writing was with symbols, from ages where no one read really. come on guys. ever played telephone ins chool? one kid at the front of the line says something, and at the end its distorted? yeah because somone mid way distiorts it to be funny. thats the bible in a nutshell. some theology major back in the day though a happy nice god would be nice in the "new" testament. what a crock. lol
god's evil vindictive and full of malice. hes divine supposedly, so why be nice? or rather why be mean for 1000 years then suddenly nice and forgiving? also i think jesus was a philosopher NOT the son of god. immaculate conception my ass. |
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Che cosa? Quello non fa senso ed il relativo volgare.
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There's no Scientific way to determine who's is more credible... That, we know for sure.
That's an interesting concept that might be worth an entire thread by itself. The reason I say that is because my first thought when reading it was "Might it be just as likely that our mind holds the key to our heart?"
Could it be as simple as our heart holding the key to our mind? Just a thought. Oh... The pain... The pain... |
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I will just take one since all of them are false.....and I will let it be easy since you can listen to what was meant instead of me writing it out......And if this one is wrong I will not bother with the rest...
Other differences concern how Jesus behaved. In one passage of the Codex, Jesus is said to be "angry" as he healed a leper, whereas the modern text records him as healing with "compassion". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxz7io975VA |
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you know. mental disease was rampant back then, maybe for once instead of thinking he was possessed they believed he was the son of god?
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Berg......
a story to non-believers....the truth and it happen to those of Faith and those whom follow Christ. Again a choice but nontheless do no tell me a myth or story....because to me that is a stab right in My Lord's heart. And a great insult to me. Again for people that do not know....claim not that....because again written by men and inspired truly of God....believe it or not your choice...but again a slap to me and and insult to the Lord & Savior. And again I say to all that no matter how many translations, no matter how many countries, not matter what you thin....the context of the bible has never changed.....and to think it has without studying for yourself to me is ignorance. jmo so don't get bent...I have studied many and many languages and many cultures....so I speak from what I know not from what i have heard.... Again to you God of evil and malice.....To me my best friend, and completely of Love....and this is because I don't listen to others...."BUT TO GOD" God was,is and always will be....He has not changed ever... This Jesus was a philosopher NOT the son of god. BUT I KNOW JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD, THE SAVIOR. I find it really odd that all that fight it the most...at some point or another were hurt in life...and they blamed God......that is the problem people.....did those same people ever thank God for all the good in their lives...or just blame him when things didn't go their way. Well it's mot up to us.....It's up to God and it's in his time, and on his terms...and just to say it isn't so....doesn't make it Truth. |
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lol i thank god. if hes there i owe him a lot. and if he isnt there im one lucky SOB. but why the hell should i listen to an archaic book written by men? mythology was INSPIRED by real life, shoul di go looking for griffons and dragons then? NO.
having faith isnt proof, every time someone asks for blind faith its proof to Me that they have NO proof. preachers dont egt a calling they dont hear the voice of god. if they do why do so many touch little boys? our current pope is a former nazi, and the one alive with the nazis kissed their butts so much he elt italians and jews get slaughtered without so much as a letter. good mouth piece there lord. if hes my saviour why am i bound for hell? even if i have lived a good life (which i HAVE!) im still gonna go to hell, because i wont supplicate and bow down to something all knowing. and what about all the wonderful sins done in the lord's name? the crusades,the current wars,ethnic cleansings,genocide all of it? why doesnt he stop those? and dont give me that its his plan or freedom of choice BS because we covered those.... |
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you know. mental disease was rampant back then, maybe for once instead of thinking he was possessed they believed he was the son of god? |
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Again for people that do not know....claim not that....because again written by men and inspired truly of God....believe it or not your choice...but again a slap to me and and insult to the Lord & Savior.
Feral this is the biggest crock of crap. Trying to make religion personal like as if you and God are being insulted by non-believers. That's truly unscrupulous behavior. And extremely arrogant. How can you think that God somehow belongs to you? We are all humans Feral. Whatever creator their might be created us all. To suggest that a creator would discriminate between believers versus non-believers is truly ignorant. You talk about insults. You hand me a book that claims that my heavenly father asked people to stone each other to dead, and it clearly states that he's a jealous God who is clearly a male-chauvanist pig. And then you tell me that if I 'choose' to not believe God is this utter jerk you describe, that he will reject me and send me to hell because I have 'chosen' to believe that God might actually be nice instead? What an insult to God! From my point of view the best way to insult God is to claim that the biblical picture is true. Nothing insults God more than the Bible itself. I CHOOSE to believe that my heavenly father if far greater than that ugly stupid picture. And for you to suggest that my heavenly father is a jerk who is rejecting me because I don't agree with your choices, it an insult to me. So there, if you want to make it personal, then your claim that our heavenly father is a jealous male-chauvanistic pig who tells people to mass-murder heathens and stone sinners is an insult to the creator of this universe. I hold that the entire biblical farce is an insult to the real Creator of this universe. It's clearly the bigoted male-chauvanistic arrogance of men who had evil agendas and who wanted to murder people who disagreed with them and claim that it was God who told them to do it! Yes, I truly veiw the Bible as an insult to the creator of this universe Feral. The Bible portrays a picture of a very egocentric jealous God who has ambitions of becoming the lord of lords and the king of kings to rule over his own kingdom of little sheep who will do anything he says and worship him without question. I don't believe that God is anywhere near that arrogant, selfish, and downright ignorant. That's my choice. I choose to believe that God is actually NICER then me! Imagine that if you can. |
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Si rende perfetto senso se si conosce la Bibbia. |
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if hes my saviour why am i bound for hell? even if i have lived a good life (which i HAVE!) im still gonna go to hell, because i wont supplicate and bow down to something all knowing. But that's not what you're refusing to bow down to! What you are refusing to bow down to is fanatical Christians. Not God. God has nothing to do with it. |
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no i refuse to bow down to anyone,lol.
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God belongs to me.....where did I say that....God love me....you bet.....I have a relationship with him abra and that gives me all the right.....When you don't have a relationship with Him....how can you know of Him.
Again where did I say belongs to me? again twists and truen but it is what it is....and how many times does this make abra...100 doing this exact thing...and no matter how many times you twist it will not change the facts... You are correct God created us all...and gave "all" of us the freewill to choose...You choose to call him a farce a lie a fable or a myth.....to think that he doesn't know ones heart and those that give their lives to him and those that bash and call him a myth....that my friend is ignorance. I will not once again hash over stuff that has been explained time and time again....believe as you wish abra...your choice... the Father is not rejecting you sweetie you are rejecting him.....BIG BIG BIG difference. and remember one thing....... YOUR CHOICE IS YOURS AND MINE IS MINE....SO IF I SAY YOU ARE INSULTING MY GOD......YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!! and "God knows it" |
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no i refuse to bow down to anyone,lol. As I choose to give him my all.....my choice, my freewill....and again to say that I don't have that choice is arrogant and selfish and is not your decision it is mine...And if there is one thing that not one of you can say about my post....I have always always said it's your choice..... |
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no i refuse to bow down to anyone,lol. As I choose to give him my all.....my choice, my freewill....and again to say that I don't have that choice is arrogant and selfish and is not your decision it is mine...And if there is one thing that not one of you can say about my post....I have always always said it's your choice..... |
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