Non-human intelligent life forms.... galaxy aliens.

Aliens, all of them.

JB

Then its a good thing Im not a fundie

Obviously this was written by a Christian because Deb copied and pasted it as usual...However this is basically accurate and worth pointing out. Also, I have not researched intensively anything classified as "new age" and generally this term has a derogatory inference associated with it.


New Age movement

Participants in the New Age movement have widely varied views about Satan, the Devil, and so forth. In some forms of Esoteric Christianity Satan remains as a being of evil, or at least a metaphor for sin and materialism, but the most widespread tendency is to deny his existence altogether. Lucifer, on the other hand, in the original Roman sense of "light-bringer", occasionally appears in the literature of certain groups as a metaphorical figure quite distinct from Satan, and without any implications of evil. For example, Theosophy founder Madame Blavatsky named her journal Lucifer since she intended it to be a "bringer of light". Many New Age schools of thought follow a nondualistic philosophy that does not recognize a primal force for evil. Even when a dualistic model is followed, this is more often akin to the Chinese system of yin and yang, in which good and evil are explicitly not a complementary duality. Schools of thought that do stress a spiritual war between good and evil or light and darkness include the philosophy of Rudolf Steiner, Agni Yoga, and the Church Universal and Triumphant.

and this

Neopaganism

Christian tradition has frequently identified pagan religions and witchcraft with the influence of Satan. In the Middle Ages, the Church accused alleged witches of consorting and conspiring with Satan. Several modern conservative Christian writers, such as Jack Chick and James Dobson, have depicted today's neopagan and witchcraft religions as explicitly Satanic.

Few neopagan reconstructionist traditions recognize Satan or the Devil outright. However, many neopagan groups worship some sort of Horned God, for example as a consort of the Great Goddess in Wicca. These gods usually reflect mythological figures such as Cernunnos or Pan, and any similarity they may have to the Christian Devil seems to date back only to the 19th century, when a Christian reaction to Pan's growing importance in literature and art resulted in his image being translated to that of the Devil.

Thanks Deb for helping me make my point.

I'm very practiced on that pole.

Not me J.B., I own an E-Meter and I use it everyday to purge my body thetans.

The "Horned God" sounds kinda like the Devil to me

Horned gods, with horns or antlers, appear in various cultures. The "Horned God" is a modern term for a syncretic god of late antiquity, the merging of Cernunnos, a horned god of the Celts, with the Greco-Roman Pan. This combination of gods produced a powerful deity, around which the pagani, those refusing to convert to Christianity, rallied. This deity provided the prototype for later Christian conceptions of the devil, and his worshippers were cast by the Church as witches. In Wicca, the Horned God and his counterpart the Triple Goddess are the main gods worshiped.

The "Horned God" is still worshipped by some modern Neopagans, particularly Wiccans, who have linked him with a wide variety of male nature gods from various mythologies, including the English Herne the Hunter, the Egyptian Ammon, the Hindu Pashupati and the Roman Faunus. All of these male deities are seen as having horns and an association with nature. A number of figures from British folklore, though normally depicted without horns, are nonetheless considered related: Puck, Robin Goodfellow and the Green Man.

The syncretic figure of a Horned God, central to a cult of witches, was first suggested by Jules Michelet in La Sorcière (1862); these ideas were expanded by Margaret Murray, in The Witch-cult in Western Europe (1921). Since then important aspects of Murray's thesis have been discredited, and the idea of a highly organised pagan underground resistance persisting into the early modern period is widely regarded as a fantasy. Despite widespread condemnation of her scholarship, certain intuitions of hers are now considered correct, and most witchcraft historians agree that beliefs and practices originating in paganism survived into the Early Modern Age, and that the conflict between these beliefs and Christianity helped precipitate the European witch-hunts.

I know, but I wanted to see if you knew that. The horns are symbolic. But Im not so sure of the connection between the Ancient Pagans and the modern "neo-pagans". I think the similarities are merely aesthetic. All cults and new religions claim to be ancient to have an air of credibility.

No one said you had to buy into anything. You asked and I showed. There has clearly been a "rift” between the two but exactly how far back it extends is very open for debate.

The neo pagans try to be like what they think Pagans were like but the fact is that there are so few written records from that time period that there is only a vague idea what real Pagans believed.What is known of the real pagans sounds pretty savage. Practices of gruesome torture,cannibalism, and human sacrifice etc. That dont sound like any Wiccans or neo pagans I know.

And who told you about all that exactly? Let me guess, either a Christian who really had no experience with the spirituality and had an aversion to it for obvious reasons or someone else who had absolutely no experience with it.

Also, how many Christians from the time of Jesus do you know that are still alive and kicking? You can’t very well expect Pagans from that time period to exist either can you? There is plenty of documentation. However the difference here is we don’t carry any agendas or dogma. If you want to know, go look it up. Make your own decisions. If you ask for help, you will get help. End of story.

I know it from World History , Comparitive Religion and Western Literature. The Pagans did not keep written records.

I’m not speaking of written records solely. I’m addressing actual archeological, cultural and anthropological and physical evidence. Show me your documentation to prove that Christianity has been the ONLY recorded religion of humankind and then we can go from there.

Oh, Mirror I HATE that avatar! You are bad!

I never made that conjecture.

I'll switch it back. Some of my friends was asking me to put this up

I hope not. Because that would be hard for you to prove and require a great deal of time. Probably even more time than you currently spend online. I think an exercise in futility really. You are free to do whatever you like though.

I do a lot of work online. And I never said anything about Christians being the only religion having written records. Thats highly improbable.

I wasn't getting on your case about it. Gosh. Defensive.

Krim says "gosh" like Napoleon Dynamite and storms out of the room.

I thought that movie was funny too