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KUDOS spider!!!!
However...do you really think the crowd you are talking about will get it? No less bother to even read it? LOL It's a positively valiant assessment of those posters who are struggling with simple faith. Thank you for showing class. :) |
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Spider needs to start his own site and set his own rules for his patrons huh? 
Spider's Christianity Revisited Forums of Joy, might work 
Sarcasm doesn't pass as a valid argument either. These aren't rules for this forum! Oh no, the forum already has rules. These are the rules we all live by in adult society. Those people I have known who would break these rules were usually corrected by everyone present. You already know all that, just read the rules and show me a single one that doesn't have a place in polite society. and we all have the right to determine our level of involvement with "polite society". We will determine our own rules of conduct for ourselves. We don't need you telling us how to behave. As I told you earlier today, you are not our King. |
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You know, Yasha harms no one. It's just not right to pick on him. He has no obligation to follow your rule #9 or any thing else you choose to post. Yasha made a joke at my expense about "argument". I corrected him and he made another joke along the same line. Then others followed his lead and did the same. I'm calling him on it. I am allowed that right. I think he behaved badly. If you disagree...well lets be honest, I would be greatly surprised if you agreed with me about the color of the sky. You do not make the rules here. You need to be clear on that. I never said I did. This is called a "Straw man fallacy". It's a logical fallacy where one creates an arguement of their own design, which is intentionally flawed, attributes it to another and then refutes the argument. |
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I'm struggling with a simple mind.
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Where's the Cowsills when you need 'em?
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You know, Yasha harms no one. It's just not right to pick on him. He has no obligation to follow your rule #9 or any thing else you choose to post. Yasha made a joke at my expense about "argument". I corrected him and he made another joke along the same line. Then others followed his lead and did the same. I'm calling him on it. I am allowed that right. I think he behaved badly. If you disagree...well lets be honest, I would be greatly surprised if you agreed with me about the color of the sky. You do not make the rules here. You need to be clear on that. I never said I did. This is called a "Straw man fallacy". It's a logical fallacy where one creates an arguement of their own design, which is intentionally flawed, attributes it to another and then refutes the argument. Very good. You took a logic class. You have posted a list of rules and are holding us accountable to follow them. I don't need to take a logic class to figure out what that means. |
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Edited by
yashafox_F4X1
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Thu 05/08/08 07:43 PM
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Sorry. Didn't mean to offend. I do find the whole thing kind of humorous, though. What's rule #9?
Oh, yeah, I just looked. Well. I guess I do twist words sometimes. But I have a skewed view of life at times. Just throwing my two cents worth and my opinion in for a little comic relief. We can take ourselves too seriuosly sometimes, no word and thread twisting intended, folks. |
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Sorry. Didn't mean to offend. I do find the whole thing kind of humorous, though. What's rule #9? I think it must be something about not being allowed to have a sense of humor about anything. |
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Mutual respect can only exist when both sides are willing to consider the possibility that they could be wrong and are willing to look at evidence that contradicts their core belief system. Not true in the least. Wow, you make this illogical arguments instead of just admitting someone else has a good point. I have a friend at work who is a Muslim. He and I have never discussed religion. I respect him and he respects me. The fact that you can't respect someone unless he or she is willing to admit that their beliefs are wrong seems...strange to me. That is not what I said. I am talking about a debate in a religion forum. I am not talking mutual respect for someone as a person outside of a debate. Sure if you don't discuss religion or politics you could probably have a lot of friends. That's a no brainer. JB Once again, I disagree. There was a Jewish gentleman who used to post here named PreciousLife. I have a great deal of respect for the man, but we disagree on many issues. Neither one of us had to admit to the possiblity that our beliefs were wrong to respect one another. |
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Edited by
Chazster
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Thu 05/08/08 07:45 PM
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Spider, I read you post and agree. There are a few people that post in the religious forum that do not take other peoples beliefs into consideration when they post. I also get the impression that sometimes they are trying to insult, confuse, and mislead intentionally. It is one reason I am not quite as active in the religious forum anymore. I find theological debates very interesting, but only when both sides have mutual respect. the world isn't all rainbows and lollipops son and neither are debates about the existence of god.They get heated especially when people think they have to defend Jesus.Jesus does not need your sinner behind to defend him,he needs you to show some tolerance,turn the other cheek and follow the golden rule.to basically tell me to shut up because i don't believe in something is just asinine and childish. I believe in God and Jesus but I love to read others points of view .Its how you learn. Why are you trying to make it seem like I have told you to shut up or anything of that sort? You can have a heated discussion and still have respect for the other persons beliefs. If you did cross the line then when the passion drops then you could apologize if you were mature enough to do so. I understand that not everyone would do this, but I dont think that people should try to force their beliefs on others. To tell someone what they believe is wrong and they are delusional for believing it is just rude and uncalled for. |
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Sorry. Didn't mean to offend. I do find the whole thing kind of humorous, though. What's rule #9? You did not offend me. You are just not as dead serious as Spider. He wants everyone to be as stone cold serious as he is. Lighten up Spider, just for a little while. We mean no harm. Really. I think you are awesome. I just don't think you should be so serious. But if it makes you happy, so be it. I am going to play now. It's recess time. 
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Spider needs to start his own site and set his own rules for his patrons huh?
Spider's Christianity Revisited Forums of Joy, might work
Sarcasm doesn't pass as a valid argument either. These aren't rules for this forum! Oh no, the forum already has rules. These are the rules we all live by in adult society. Those people I have known who would break these rules were usually corrected by everyone present. You already know all that, just read the rules and show me a single one that doesn't have a place in polite society. I wasn't being sarcastic, I made a valid suggestion. And here we go with you telling me what is right. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you know not what you do but I am bound by the rules of this site, not your ideals of right or wrong. |
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and we all have the right to determine our level of involvement with "polite society". We will determine our own rules of conduct for ourselves. We don't need you telling us how to behave. As I told you earlier today, you are not our King. I'm not telling you how to behave, I'm telling you how you should behave. I'm pointing out how wrong the behavior is of most of the people in these forums. Social mores aren't laws, you can do what you want. But farting in an elevator is bad manners, even if you refuse to admit it. |
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Where's the Cowsills when you need 'em? i love the flower girllllll |
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Spider needs to start his own site and set his own rules for his patrons huh?
Spider's Christianity Revisited Forums of Joy, might work
Actually there are a lot of Christian forums on the web that he can join if he likes. I think it's utterly ridiculous to try to get a whole forum to conform to the way you would like it to be. If you don't like a forum just go try something else. Why try to dictate how other people should behave. If you truly believe they are breaking rules report them. What's the point in starting a thread and saying, "Ok. Here's how everyone must behave". That's silly. Like you say, if he wants to run a site he should just start up his own. |
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and we all have the right to determine our level of involvement with "polite society". We will determine our own rules of conduct for ourselves. We don't need you telling us how to behave. As I told you earlier today, you are not our King. I'm not telling you how to behave, I'm telling you how you should behave. I'm pointing out how wrong the behavior is of most of the people in these forums. Social mores aren't laws, you can do what you want. But farting in an elevator is bad manners, even if you refuse to admit it. but it's damn funny..
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and we all have the right to determine our level of involvement with "polite society". We will determine our own rules of conduct for ourselves. We don't need you telling us how to behave. As I told you earlier today, you are not our King. I'm not telling you how to behave, I'm telling you how you should behave. I'm pointing out how wrong the behavior is of most of the people in these forums. Social mores aren't laws, you can do what you want. But farting in an elevator is bad manners, even if you refuse to admit it. So you determine that Yasha finding humor in something that you say is bad manners? |
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Edited by
wouldee
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Thu 05/08/08 07:52 PM
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Spider needs to start his own site and set his own rules for his patrons huh?
Spider's Christianity Revisited Forums of Joy, might work
Actually there are a lot of Christian forums on the web that he can join if he likes. I think it's utterly ridiculous to try to get a whole forum to conform to the way you would like it to be. If you don't like a forum just go try something else. Why try to dictate how other people should behave. If you truly believe they are breaking rules report them. What's the point in starting a thread and saying, "Ok. Here's how everyone must behave". That's silly. Like you say, if he wants to run a site he should just start up his own. here you have it folks. straight at you from the master of the game himself nice flip abra |
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Sorry. Didn't mean to offend. I do find the whole thing kind of humorous, though. What's rule #9? You did not offend me. You are just not as dead serious as Spider. He wants everyone to be as stone cold serious as he is. Lighten up Spider, just for a little while. We mean no harm. Really. I think you are awesome. I just don't think you should be so serious. But if it makes you happy, so be it. I am going to play now. It's recess time.
JeannieBean, I try to take serious subjects seriously. I have a great sense of humor if I must say so myself. Have you ever had a boyfriend who didn't take anything seriously? Who was making jokes when you were trying to have a serious discussion with him? That's wrong and insensitive. If a subject is serious, it should be treated as such. That has been an accepted social more for thousands of years. |
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I can be sharp and abrasive with my humor at times. But if y'all take up a big enough collection, I'll go to etiquette school!
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