Hmmm. Well, you presented it as a question, so it doesn't fit the technical defintion of "Straw man Fallacy", but it does fit into that category. I wasn't talking about Yasha. Context. Read the words and not what you wish I had posted.

Okay Spider, you are telling us how we SHOULD BEHAVE.

You are telling us how wrong our behavior is.

So who are you to be pointing out to us our so-called bad behavior? Mr. Manners?

How would you like it if I told you that this whole thread is insulting and in bad taste? You even stated that you were going to ignore certain people who responded.

Bad manners. Bad taste.

Geeeeze. Please Please let people be who they are. Please try practicing the law of allowance. Let us discus and let us play without your judgment and without your rules.

Don't be offended by our opinions or our ranting or our gross bad manners. Just let us be.

JB

I don't see the point here wouldee but I guess I am not able to. And if spider is willing to spend all the time he did for his very long arduous OP then maybe starting a site that will fit his ideals would be a good idea for him, less stress maybe. He is bothered by the fact that others do not take his word as right but he fails to give others the same respect. If he started his own he could be king and always be right, just how he likes it.

Now what was wrong with that?

Does anyone ever go onto a forum and try to tell everyone else on the forum how they must behave for to please a specific person?

I've never seen anyone do that before now.

But that's exactly that I have said I am going to do with Abra, Funches and Rabbit. I take religion seriously, so I don't see any reason to deal with their foolishness. I am not doing anything untoward, I am simply ignoring them. That is fully my right and I see nothing wrong with it. If I were at a dinner party and a child were being obnoxious, I would ignore him/her. Those three choose to act like children, so I will treat them as I would an obnoxious child.

Your opinion of course not a fact.

I have more faith than Spider does. I am not struggling with faith.

What he is doing is the same thing a Wouldee is doing. Trying to tell people that to speak against Christianity or joke about something so serious is bad manners and in poor taste.

But this is a discussion forum and discussion is what it is for.
This is also a religion forum and religion is bound to be a heated topic so get used to it.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

If it weren't for us non-believers in this forum you would probably be arguing amongst yourselves.

Now I am finished with this ridiculous conversation.

Goodnight.

I know where you're coming from, Spider. Sometimes I find it difficult to deal with some viewpoints I consider to be off base. I'm being very tactful when I tell you see Proverbs Chapter 9 without quoting the text hear, ya dig? But, I value their view points. They challenge my thinking. I pretty much figure I won't bring them around, though. Not likely. But fun trying, anyway.

I like to discuss topics with people of various beliefs. I haven't enjoyed the Christian only forums because of that. I don't want to "be king" or "always be right", I have apologized when I thought I was wrong. Wait...I'm treating your post as if it had some content. Your post is simply a gratuitous assertion. You are actually lying about me and my character, which I find offensive. I won't report you to the mods, but I think you should stop lying about people with whom you disagree. Those rules I posted are NOT offensive. Not a single one of the many posts attacking my OP has addressed any of the rules I posted as offensive. You can't attack the message, so you attack teh messenger. That's against the forum rules, but again, I won't bother the moderators or admins. But you really should read (for the first time, I don't believe you have given them mroe than a glance) my posted rules and try to apply them to your behavior in these forums and in life in general.

Of course its not. A simile is never a fact.

Bad manners, Bad taste. You insult my friends. I hope you feel good about yourself.

Why do people "Bash" Christianity?

Because somebody has to.

JB

More grautitous assertions, you are like a gratuitous assertion factory. I have told you, I will debate you on Christianity. You make a post and I will respond. Or we can do it in email. But I won't play the silly games where you fire off 20 things and then refuse to listen to my responses. Then attack the defintions of the words I use. Pretend to not understand simple concepts. Ask questions like "What is truth". Etc. That's how you and others here "debate". Like you the bell just rang and you are fighting over the see saw.

Spider says that it's not adult behavior to ignore facts yet he ignores every fact I've stated in this entire thread. And so has everyone else.

I’m also off to have some fun. I no longer find this thread entertaining. No one is giving anything I say any serious thought anyway, all they do is twist the words around in an attempt to insult me.

Goodnight everyone.

No, noone ever has to bash anyones religion

Okay spider, Again you amuse the hell out me. I am taking the words from your mouth on this very thread, you have said they are wrong, you have said they are insulting, you have said they are children, you have said that noone is being an adult, you have said that I am being insulting ( a lie), so if you are going to judge all of us, then stand by the judgements and be king and be right and just in all you say. Accept my assessment of your words for how they appear. Calling others children is an insult, etc... So it is okay for you to insult and call others immature, insulting, etc.... but not okay for me to call you on your judgements. I see. Well do what you think you should do, I will defend my actions.

Now I'm really getting tired of your behavior. You are about to make my ignore list, but maybe that's your goal. I will debate any of them on Christianity. And in a legitimate debate, I would mop the floor with all of them at the same time. They take the Bible out of context, but I can put it back in. Any judge would have to fairly rule in my favor. Repeating yourself and constantly talking about your "preacher uncles" doesn't mean you are right.

I AM NOT AFRAID OF ARGUMENTS AGAINST CHRISTIANITY. I KNOW MORE ABOUT CHRISTIANITY THAN ANY OF THE NON-CHRISTIANS HERE. WHAT BOTHERS ME IS THE CHILDISH BEHAVIOR OF MOST OF THE NON-CHRISTIANS HERE. Say that God is evil, go for it. Give me specific examples AND THEN GIVE ME A CHANCE TO REBUTT. You guys act like fairness only goes one way. You spout anti-Christian garbage and when we rebutt, you reply with completely new arguments without addressing our rebuttal. It's childish, it's not how adults discuss topics. If any of you acted that way with your friends or loved ones, they wouldn't want you around.

You have lied about me and broken the forum rules, that is without a doubt. It's not judgement to call a lie a lie, it's discernment. And it's not an insult to call childish behavior childish. You are also on my ignore list now. Your use of personal insults and gratuitous assertions means that I will gain nothing from discussing with you. All you and I could do is argue (defintion 3!) and I have no interest in doing that.

If they're too far off base, Spider, just ignore 'em. Some folks are trying to be deliberately provocative. If you lose your temper, they've won/proved their point or whatever. The Lord'll defend himself and we don't have to do it. Our role is to be peacemakers: to present our side of things and respect other's viewpoints so we can learn from each other and (hopefully) grow, though in my case it's doubtful, very doubtful!

I did not lie about you, not once. Prove it.

abra

not when you put it like that.

which is another flip

but spider's point is valid about the antagonisms.

Jeannie sees it a humourous way, as do you.

I see why she does.

I don't see why you do, though.

Admittedly, I didn't realize spider meant verabtim adherence, and to that I missed the gist of his point as he had made it.

In general everything is far too combative.

Toning it down....way way down is my point.


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