Then forget about time. The persons in question were "pretenders" they were lying about their current status.

Again I ask, so what? What is your point? Yes they lied. May we continue?

JB

You must have me confused with someone else. I have consistantly stated that one cannot prove that God exists or prayer works.

I do believe that both (prayer and God) can be proven on a personal level. The Bible offers concrete proof of both. With the Law of Attraction, you can always excuse failure by saying "I subconsciously accepted the possiblity of failure".

Of course, I just want to stay focused.

So then...

According to the Laws of Attraction, one can use deceptive measures in order to gain the necessary requirements in order to attain their personal goals?

Is this correct?

Yes of course.

And this is driven by a higher intelligence?

Then you and I agree that both of these things can be proven on a personal level. For you, it is prayer and God, for me it is an intelligent aware universe and the law of attraction.

I disagree that the Bible offers concrete proof of anything.

JB

Please clarify. Is what driven by a higher intelligence?

The ability to use deception to attain personal desire.

Is the deception itself imprinted upon this formless substance to which you have referred?

No. The formless substance does only one thing. It receives the thought from the thinking center in the form of an image and/or feeling or picture.

p.s. It does not judge it to be anything but what it is. An image. It does not judge it to be false or true. It is just information.

I didn't say that the Bible IS concrete proof, I said that the Bible offers concrete proof. Jesus made the promise to reveal himself to anyone who is faithful to him. God promised that those who seek him will find him. Those are concrete promises. If you diligently seek God with an open and repentant heart and don't find him, then you can assume God doesn't exist. Some people make the mistake of assuming they can put a time line on how long they will wait...that's not an open heart, it has strings. Other's believe that they can apply conditions to belief "I'll believe in God as long as he doesn't call me a sinner". An open heart requires no conditions and attaches no strings to belief, God is waiting for all such hearts.

Ok...

I am glad that is clarified then.

So the formless substance is more like an inanimate device or tool which records one's thoughts, visions, and feelings?

I would like to further clarify and correct my answer. The image is imprinted by formless substance and accepted. So the answer is yes.

It does not distinguish between deception or truth. It is just information.

Yes. That is correct.

VERY nicely said Lonely!

I am a little confused here concerning the recordings of deception and how it(The Law of Attraction) proceeds from there.

There is no judgement in the formless substance, this I understand.

So then it all boils down to confidence in thought and purpose?

The judgment that the information is a deception is, of course, a judgment made by you and perhaps others who rely on appearances.

Formless substance takes the information for what it is and begins to manifest it into reality. If there is enough attention given to the form (vision, idea etc.) and if there is no opposing resistance to it, it will eventually manifest into reality.

It is an uphill battle however as there is a lot of resistance in the form of negative beliefs, doubt, lack of feeling or desire, lack of action, lack of gratitude, lack of energy given to the vision, and lack of faith that it will arrive.

All of these negative things will keep the manifestation outside the realm of your experience.

When the information is received by the formless substance, it is an order to begin manifesting this thing, this vision of life.

If a different picture is received which conflicts with that, it creates resistance. It is an opposing vision which prevents the manifestation and even can cancel it out completely.

Intention and purpose are the things a thinking center uses to reinforce the vision, along with belief. Failure is not an option with intention.

There are ways you can measure how much resistance you are putting forth. It is measured by how you feel about it. Emotions are key. If your emotions are on the low scale, you are creating resistances. (Anger, frustration, depression, etc.)

If your emotions are on the higher scale, you are creating attraction. (Joy, anticipation, happiness, gratitude, excitement.)

JB

Does reality equate to a measure of the most images?

What measures the images provided?

Would one negative thought offset ten positive ones?

How do those images get transformed into a physical manifestation?

What provides the transformation?

How does it go from thought into an image imprinted upon a recording device and end up being transformed into a physical thing?

As you can see by the world we live in, there are many realities and many societies and just about any experience you can imagine is here on this earth to love or hate. So the answer is yes. The world is full of thinking centers who created this reality that we see.



I don't understand the question.




Probably not.



That is what Christians call "God works in mysterious ways"
The Universe works in mysterious ways, ~~ it is on a quantum level and all the way up to the objective reality you see. Everything is connected and these connections share information from formless substance in the manifestation of forms in this reality. You cannot see it until it arrives.




I don't know if I understand the question. It is not a transformation it is a manifestation.



Thoughts are things. They are energy and light and vibration. All of reality is vibration and reflection, energy and light.

How do you create the objects in your dreams at night? Can you tell me that? If you dream of a mountain, how did that mountain appear? Is it considered an illusion or is it considered real?

In this reality, the only reason we consider it real is because of its duration and its sustained appearance. All thinking centers live together in a reality that they created and share with each other in order to validate it as real. They agree to observe each others manifestations and they agree to acknowledge each other as existing separately from their point of observation.