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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 04/14/08 08:47 AM
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To the fact that you do not know any lazy-negative minded successful people I give you Paris Hilton Al Capone Georg W Bush ...After hearing the victim's widow describe how she watched her husband die, a judge today ordered John E. du Pont, an heir to the du Pont family fortune, to stand trial on charges of first-degree murder.... ...North Korea is a self-described Juche (self-reliance) state. Government is organized as a dictatorship with a pronounced cult of personality organized around Kim Il-sung (the founder of North Korea and the country's first and only president) and his son and heir, Kim Jong-il.... ...Caligula’s political payments for support, generosity and extravagance had exhausted the state’s treasury. Ancient historians state that Caligula began falsely accusing, fining and even killing individuals for the purpose of seizing their estates.... Do you honestly want to call those people successful? Paris Hilton is the Butt of thousands of jokes, do you know if she if happy? George Bush is the most unpopular President in all of history, and considered by many to be an idiot, do you know if he is happy? Al Capone is so unsuccessful he feels he has to be a criminal and steal from people because he can't create his own wealth. That's not successful. JB |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 04/14/08 09:13 AM
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Vincent Willem van Gogh:
Not an example of a successful artist. He was always miserable, he was supported by his brother, lived in an institution for the insane, cut off his ear because he was so miserable about some woman. added: He never felt his paintings were good enough to display or sell. He never felt successful, therefore he did not accomplish on canvas what he wanted to accomplish. Too add to that, he could not paint well. His paintings are ugly and disturbed. He was not successful, he was miserable and unhappy. He was a lousy artist. But there is no accounting for people's bad taste. You have a strange idea of what success in life is my friend. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 04/14/08 09:05 AM
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Creative:
Exactly... Exactly? I said: "And by the way, I don't believe in "magic" either.
It is all a very exact science." And you say "Exactly" ? As if you now agree with me? Is this part of your game? First you say, "It is not true, and that I am being "duped", and that it is just people trying to get rich blah blah... that I am twisting the Law of Cause and effect blah blah blah..etc etc...." Now you say : Exactly? I will say it again. The Law of Attraction is an exact Science. We manifest our own experiences and realities. There are no accidents. I have it in my mind that you do not agree with this. Now you say "Exactly." I don't know what game you play. JB |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 04/14/08 09:19 AM
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I have seen that video several times. A wonderful lady had the grace to send it to me. THank you. 
I can't stop finding similarities in what they talk about in that video with what i believe. They say the universe, I say God. They say that our thoughts are signals for the universe to grant us what we want, I say that our prayers are requests to God to grant us what we need. They say that the universe will rearrange itself to give us what we want, I say God will provide what we need at the right time according to His plan. And so on... These facts make me realize that there must be a God because no matter what belief system (as long as it's based upon some sense of transcendency) are searching for the same end. Such end it's the final arival to the original source. That original source is not other than the Creator-God. However, teleologically speaking those who don't believe in God have a purpose and a reason to be who they are. Reinforce the faith of those who believe in God. Plus after all, they always end up being good servants of my Heavenly Father.
TLW. They call it God..... I call it Science, It originates from an Intelligent aware Universe. There is in this process.. the Law of Attraction, It is moved by thoughts. Each person is a "thinking center" and can move this Universe to bring them what they ask for with their thoughts. I think eventually, and sooner than you think, all of this will be scientifically proven beyond reasonable doubt through quantum and other types of science JB |
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To the fact that you do not know any lazy-negative minded successful people I give you Paris Hilton Al Capone Georg W Bush ...After hearing the victim's widow describe how she watched her husband die, a judge today ordered John E. du Pont, an heir to the du Pont family fortune, to stand trial on charges of first-degree murder.... ...North Korea is a self-described Juche (self-reliance) state. Government is organized as a dictatorship with a pronounced cult of personality organized around Kim Il-sung (the founder of North Korea and the country's first and only president) and his son and heir, Kim Jong-il.... ...Caligula’s political payments for support, generosity and extravagance had exhausted the state’s treasury. Ancient historians state that Caligula began falsely accusing, fining and even killing individuals for the purpose of seizing their estates.... Do you honestly want to call those people successful? Paris Hilton is the Butt of thousands of jokes, do you know if she if happy? George Bush is the most unpopular President in all of history, and considered by many to be an idiot, do you know if he is happy? Al Capone is so unsuccessful he feels he has to be a criminal and steal from people because he can't create his own wealth. That's not successful. JB Thank you I think you make my point very well here The success that you are talking about is only personal happiness. It is not some measure that can be recognized and measured by the outside world. So do I believe you can use your mind to make yourself happy. Yes I do. I do it every day. |
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Mon 04/14/08 09:49 AM
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Look JB,
You say this... I say that... you say this is why... I say this is why not... It doesn't matter. How can you tell me whether or not some one is successful or happy any more than I can tell you? What makes your opinion any more valid than anyone else? |
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George Bush is the most unpopular President in all of history, and considered by many to be an idiot, do you know if he is happy? Ummm...how do you know that? Opinion polls haven't been used for that long, so there is absolutely no way of knowing that. Watch the mini-series "John Adams". Maybe when you see how unpopular John Adams and George Washington were as presidents, you might modify your opinion. Another thing you should note is that opinion polls can be very deceiving. |
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spider:
How are you? Kinda strange for you and I to be on the same side of a subject... 
And rabbit also??? Wow... JB... look out, the arsenal has arrived... back-up, as it were... 
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spider: How are you? Kinda strange for you and I to be on the same side of a subject...
And rabbit also??? Wow... JB... look out, the arsenal has arrived... back-up, as it were...
Surprisingly better, thank you for asking. How are you doing? To quote John Adams (at least from the mini-series), "I am a party of one". I am on the side of right, as I see it. As are we all, I would assume. |
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Mon 04/14/08 10:25 AM
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I am actively pursuing a permanent physical move based upon the results of four different prospective employers' offerings, which are in the works as we speak.
My preference is clear within me, and waiting to be confirmed by that employer's offer. I expect to hear back sometime today or tomorrow. If not, I will begin committing to the second preference, which has already gotten that far. Big changes welcomed... or manifested, if you choose...
Good to hear that you are better.
JB acts as if she holds the only valid opinion on the matter at hand, without logically refuting any other. I have yet to find this conversation anything more than... Nuh uh... Yes huh... Nuh uh... Yes huh...
Amusing... |
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Kid Rock...
Was nobody... Began from a lower class... Was nearly broke in the music industry... Had no substantial fan-base... Decided to begin a self-advertising campaign... Made flyers and posters which portrayed a huge figure(himself) with tremendous fame... which was not yet attained. Continued this hype-up of himself throughout his earlier years as a performer, although his fame was truly non-existent. Painted a tremendously deceptive portrait of himself in order to increase demand during the promotional aspect of his touring. He eventually became that which he had previously portayed... That is all fact! What does this prove about the "Laws of Attraction"? 
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 04/14/08 10:42 AM
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Look JB, You say this... I say that... you say this is why... I say this is why not... It doesn't matter. How can you tell me whether or not some one is successful or happy any more than I can tell you? What makes your opinion any more valid than anyone else? I can't tell you when someone is a success or not. I can only guess that if a person is miserable, he does not consider himself a success. Unless of course his goal is to be miserable. The only person that knows if they are a success or not is that person. (Vincent Van Gogh, according to his biography, did not consider himself a success and would not let his Brother show his paintings because they were not good enough according to him.) My opinion is my opinion and I am willing to discuss, at any length, the reasons for it and why I think, in my opinion, it is more valid than yours. I am willing to change my opinion if anyone else has more valid reasons for opposing it, but when they just give up and end the discussion, I have to assume that they don't have valid answers to my questions. JB |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 04/14/08 10:45 AM
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Kid Rock... Was nobody... Began from a lower class... Was nearly broke in the music industry... Had no substantial fan-base... Decided to begin a self-advertising campaign... Made flyers and posters which portrayed a huge figure(himself) with tremendous fame... which was not yet attained. Continued this hype-up of himself throughout his earlier years as a performer, although his fame was truly non-existent. Painted a tremendously deceptive portrait of himself in order to increase demand during the promotional aspect of his touring. He eventually became that which he had previously portayed... That is all fact! What does this prove about the "Laws of Attraction"?
It proves that it works. He had a vision. He acted it out. He even pretended it was true. He made it happen. A perfect example of the power of visualization and manifestation of the experience he desired! Excellent example! Thanks.. 
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What valid and appropriate question did you ask that I did not answer?
I am awaiting your response on the Kid Rock thing... I just gave you your best ammunition...
We must begin with something you will agree with. |
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That is what I figured you would say.
He believed his own lies? |
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JB acts as if she holds the only valid opinion on the matter at hand, without logically refuting any other. I have yet to find this conversation anything more than... Nuh uh... Yes huh... Nuh uh... Yes huh... wink
Amusing... What can I say? I believe in myself! 
Like I said before, I am willing to change my opinion if anyone can present a completely different model that makes sense as a whole unit. Instead, all I get are ridiculous examples that don't explain anything. JB |
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That is what I figured you would say. He believed his own lies? Well if they worked for him wouldn't that make them his own truths?
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So then, may we now build upon this discussion of Kid Rock?
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That is what I figured you would say. He believed his own lies? He believed they were possible. They were. He saw a vision of himself in his future. It came true. He manifested it. Are they lies? If you want to say so. Is fame what he wanted? Is fame what he got? Is he now famous? If the answer to that is yes, then they are not lies. Another story of a famous Hollywood producer started where he found an abandoned trailer on a Hollywood lot and pretended to be a producer. From there, he convinced other people he was. From there he began to make small films, from there he became a famous Hollywood producer. He lived and acted out the part until he made it his reality. JB |
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So then, may we now build upon this discussion of Kid Rock? I don't know anything about Kid Rock, but be my guest. |
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