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3.1 Native American languages
3.1.1 Navajo
3.1.2 Dakota
3.1.3 Central Alaskan Yup'ik
3.1.4 Cherokee
3.1.5 Western Apache
3.1.6 Piman
3.1.7 Choctaw
3.1.8 Keres
3.1.9 Zuni
3.1.10 Ojibwe
3.1.11 Other languages
3.1.12 Native American sign languages
3.2 Austronesian languages
3.2.1 Hawaiian
3.2.2 Samoan
3.2.3 Chamorro
3.2.4 Carolinian
4 Immigrant languages
4.1 English
4.2 Spanish
4.3 Chinese
4.4 French
4.5 German
4.6 Tagalog
4.7 Ilocano
4.8 Italian
4.9 Russian
4.10 Arabic
4.11 Hebrew
4.12 Yiddish
4.13 Dutch
4.14 Swedish
4.15 Finnish
4.16 Welsh
4.17 Scottish Gaelic

Notice that English is considered an immigrant language?

but we act as if it was our "right" to do so.

u got i bud yeehaa

HELLLLLLL we wouldnt want to do that!!!

ROFLMBO Does the term selective memory apply here?

Actually when immigrants came to this country thay were for the most part conquerers that eventually fell victim to poor planning and depended on the charity of native peoples for survival. Later it was the folks that were unemployed in their own countries and desperate for work either brought as purchased slaves or indentured servants or mercanaries.

Later it is pretty much the same thing but many were fleeing the conquerors in their own countries during WWI and WWII even Korea. On a few occasions it was the USA just playing at being and allie and then abandoning commrades in arms; Viet Nam, Loas, Cambodia.

By majority it is the the importation of cheap domestic labor to pick our crops, make the beds in our hotels, and flip burgers in fast food.

To say that immigrants have willingly learned English and mainstreamed is a farce. They created their own subcultures and have for generations had entire neighborhoods that were stricltly divided into Ethnic neighborhoods where their cultures were maintained for two and sometimes three generations. Some of it was obviously forced by such lovely practices as Red Lining and predatory lending which is obvious in the number of morgage defaults in minority neighborhoods but there is minimul effort to learn more than the basic words for survival not conversation in most populations. They practice their religion, recieve medical care, and educate their children in private shools in their own neighborhoods whenever possible.

The Mainstream population has gone right along with it keeping school funding and public funding dependent on neighborhood wealth and political power. The school systems don't teach English on anything but a pathetic level even to English speaking students. We have so dumbed down our vocabulary and grammar that the average person speaks and writes with a third of the language that is available. Newspaper and many books are written on an 4th thru 8th grade reading level or below. Note the Boom in books ____for Dummies? Our conceptual understanding and organization has to be broken down or our interest and attention flag. Many of us are notoriously poor at being creative spellers and useing the wrong word for the point. (Myself included.) While there is marginal help at the community college level not one of our public school systems that I am aware of teaches English as a Second language to Parents so that the first language of the home could even be English. I cringe every time I am in an ER room at the pathetic translations I hear if I even see a translation attempted.

hahahahahaahahahahahaahhaahaahahaahaah yup lmao and thank u

great point

bingo

No prob.

because i lived in germany for a few years

Why don't we all learn Latin, and forget english alltogether...afterall the true english language spits on americanized english...

The variety of English spoken in the United States is known as American English; together with Canadian English it makes up the group of dialects known as North American English.

I have NO idea if whatshername's group of people in front of her in the grocery store were native or visiting or what. Personally, I don't mind if someone's speaking Spanish to someone else speaking Spanish.

I wouldn't go up to someone in Germany and speak English to them (stores, service, restaurants, etc) expecting them to understand me. But yeah, when someone came up and spoke English to me, I used to respond in English. My little tiny point is the duality of the languages. THAT I think we could all appreciate. (=

Water is out... You're the new Cliff in the Cheers thread...

I've been to 100 different companies, factories in the U.S. and after ohhh 20 years of going into them and walking up to person after person TRYING to talk to them but they could not speak any english, and WE would both just be BLAW,BLAW, and fingers pointing in some direction, to MEAN,???? what?
Hell if WE knew??
And THEN, I would find the ONE person who could ALSO speak some english, and they would tell me where I needed to back my truck into..COOL, not a big deal. I just ALWAYS thought the whole factory was illegals.....Then,
About 6 months ago in Chicago I was in that same position, and
asking person after person once again. But this time I really looked at the WHOLE of the people working there and saw them to have in this factory. A very nice paying place, ALL nice cars all dressed nice, all friendly smiles,,,,,,,but still no english
So again, found the ONE who could KIND-OF speak a good BROKEN english, young man about 22-23 years old.
I thought, IM going to ask this dude why they couldn't speak
english, as I knew. THEY all were citizens here.
I asked him if he was born here, and he said yes, (this dude was cool and stright with me) When I asked him WHY so many there who were older like 50 years old and all the youmger ones
He simply said, we talk to each other,,and even in our neighborhoods we talk to each other, and everyone only speaks in spanish,,,,,there, how you say,,,no ,,need,,,we do not need to USE,,english,,,,,And I said even here, at work??
And he said,,we ALL speak spanish....I told him Thank you and for the first time in my life I realized the truth to their lives spent here in the US,,,No REASON (in their minds) to
have a real WANT to even TRY to learn english as. THEIR WHOLE WORLD that they live and work in IS ALL STILL SPANISH.
If THESE factories REALLY cared about these peoples lives here, they would have some kind of CLASSES that would teach them english and PAID for by that factory.
If THEY find them good enough to be workers,,,then THEY should also, want them to be in any emergency,,,,,be able to know what maybe a english speaking cop yelling GET OUT or RUN, might be saying. Just my RANT, of seeing this for now about 20 years.

i speak texan...a lot of friends of mine from NT don't understand what I say

I've been teaching my 9 year old son German since he was born, along with English.

He's almost conversational now (in both! lol), and almost fluent.

He's learning Spanish (in school!), and I've been working on French with him.

He doesn't like French..lol

Canadian english = add eh after each sentence!!!