Community > General Religion Chat

Topic: Are You Sure
Dav777 Joined Wed 03/19/08 Posts: 113	Mon 03/31/08 07:55 PM
Curiously how does an illiterate person know what they are typing? Don't you think the ability to read would be a prerequisite? Copy and paste! Look up illiteracy. You will understand it. An illiterate person will be wowed by the pictures alone. Like Homer says..... Mmmmmmmm doughnuts! Sigh some people just don't know how to use their brains. If I say that illiterate people can put things online. And that they copy/paste. Don't you think that they would have someone else pointing their finger and directing them? Illiteracy: Not able to read or write! What does that have to do with selecting a body of words and pasting them? CTRL + C and CTRL + V! Point and click...... I'm dumbfounded by what you replied with... shame shame!

Zapchaser Joined Sat 04/14/07 Posts: 2491	Mon 03/31/08 08:08 PM
no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish enlarge, or affect their civil capacities. Sounds like in order for "state" and "religion" to be separated... one must have no religion governed onto him. Correct? Thus the US government can not choose a religion without being bias and enforcing that religion. Or else they will be "compelled to frequent or support any religious worship" Hmmmm a Virginia statute. What is your argument?

Dav777 Joined Wed 03/19/08 Posts: 113	Mon 03/31/08 08:13 PM
no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish enlarge, or affect their civil capacities. Sounds like in order for "state" and "religion" to be separated... one must have no religion governed onto him. Correct? Thus the US government can not choose a religion without being bias and enforcing that religion. Or else they will be "compelled to frequent or support any religious worship" Hmmmm a Virginia statute. What is your argument? What's yours?

Zapchaser Joined Sat 04/14/07 Posts: 2491	Mon 03/31/08 08:23 PM
no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish enlarge, or affect their civil capacities. Sounds like in order for "state" and "religion" to be separated... one must have no religion governed onto him. Correct? Thus the US government can not choose a religion without being bias and enforcing that religion. Or else they will be "compelled to frequent or support any religious worship" Hmmmm a Virginia statute. What is your argument? What's yours? Stay with the program son. IYou misquoted the first amendment concerning state sponsored religion, claiming its meaning to be separation of church and state which, for the record, I agree with and when i explained the history of the first amendment you posted a Virginia statute which has no relevance pertaining to the first amendment of the constitution. Again, what is your argument? Is this where you throw out a "Look! Your shoes are untied!" and run?

Dav777 Joined Wed 03/19/08 Posts: 113	Mon 03/31/08 08:33 PM
no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish enlarge, or affect their civil capacities. Sounds like in order for "state" and "religion" to be separated... one must have no religion governed onto him. Correct? Thus the US government can not choose a religion without being bias and enforcing that religion. Or else they will be "compelled to frequent or support any religious worship" Hmmmm a Virginia statute. What is your argument? What's yours? Stay with the program son. I? <You> misquoted the first amendment concerning state sponsored religion, claiming its meaning to be separation of church and state which, for the record, I agree with and when i explained the history of the first amendment you posted a Virginia statute which has no relevance pertaining to the first amendment of the constitution. Again, what is your argument? Is this where you throw out a "Look! Your shoes are untied!" and run? Only if you do. I looked at the link you gave me and there I beheld that quotation! Anyway, either way you look at it... that quotation defines this: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." AKA a government means to govern: to tell people what to do. If that government is govern by a religion... well I hope you see the problem in that and the quotation above!

Dav777 Joined Wed 03/19/08 Posts: 113	Mon 03/31/08 08:34 PM
PS: No, thats when I show you: You're brains where your shoes should be!

Lily0923 Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 20429	Mon 03/31/08 08:42 PM
in a country that is supposed to be founded on religious freedom, saying that keeping god in the pledge is like saying "you can believe what you want as long as we get the last word". not every body believes in god , not every religion believes in a single god. and to keep it in there because you think it's a good idea and is going to cure these problems is a little injust to the rest of the people that live in this country. Our founding fathers believed in God and that is all that matters. If others don't like that they have the option to go somewhere else. Our founding fathers were political prisioners who were banished from their respective countries. Have you read a history book?

Dav777 Joined Wed 03/19/08 Posts: 113	Mon 03/31/08 08:43 PM
in a country that is supposed to be founded on religious freedom, saying that keeping god in the pledge is like saying "you can believe what you want as long as we get the last word". not every body believes in god , not every religion believes in a single god. and to keep it in there because you think it's a good idea and is going to cure these problems is a little injust to the rest of the people that live in this country. Our founding fathers believed in God and that is all that matters. If others don't like that they have the option to go somewhere else. Our founding fathers were political prisioners who were banished from their respective countries. Have you read a history book? HERE HERE!

Lily0923 Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 20429	Mon 03/31/08 08:44 PM
in a country that is supposed to be founded on religious freedom, saying that keeping god in the pledge is like saying "you can believe what you want as long as we get the last word". not every body believes in god , not every religion believes in a single god. and to keep it in there because you think it's a good idea and is going to cure these problems is a little injust to the rest of the people that live in this country. Our founding fathers believed in God and that is all that matters. If others don't like that they have the option to go somewhere else. your kidding right? are you really that ignorant? it's in the damn decloration of independence that there is a devision of church and state as well as no person being descriminated against for their beliefs and you have the balls to say that? do you even have the slightest clue what your talking about at all? Rather than calling people names and putting them down maybe it would be better for you to be informed before launching into a war of words. Here is your answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state Going back to the high school history lesson you will remember that the first amendment came about as a jab at England, where a person was expected to accept the church of England. The puritans, some of whom came here, did so to avoid persecution in a land where they could worship freely. So begins the story of the USA. You need to read another history book fella......

azrae1l Joined Sat 03/24/07 Posts: 3624	Mon 03/31/08 08:45 PM
don;t you just hate it when you agree with people you can't stand?

Dav777 Joined Wed 03/19/08 Posts: 113	Mon 03/31/08 08:48 PM
don;t you just hate it when you agree with people you can't stand? I just find ways to make them look stupid, toy with them, or argue with them... All three if possible! IDK how I look BTW...

Zapchaser Joined Sat 04/14/07 Posts: 2491	Mon 03/31/08 08:49 PM
in a country that is supposed to be founded on religious freedom, saying that keeping god in the pledge is like saying "you can believe what you want as long as we get the last word". not every body believes in god , not every religion believes in a single god. and to keep it in there because you think it's a good idea and is going to cure these problems is a little injust to the rest of the people that live in this country. Our founding fathers believed in God and that is all that matters. If others don't like that they have the option to go somewhere else. your kidding right? are you really that ignorant? it's in the damn decloration of independence that there is a devision of church and state as well as no person being descriminated against for their beliefs and you have the balls to say that? do you even have the slightest clue what your talking about at all? Rather than calling people names and putting them down maybe it would be better for you to be informed before launching into a war of words. Here is your answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state Going back to the high school history lesson you will remember that the first amendment came about as a jab at England, where a person was expected to accept the church of England. The puritans, some of whom came here, did so to avoid persecution in a land where they could worship freely. So begins the story of the USA. You need to read another history book fella...... Really? Show me where you find this inaccurate?

Lily0923 Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 20429	Mon 03/31/08 08:49 PM
don;t you just hate it when you agree with people you can't stand? yes, including you.....

Zapchaser Joined Sat 04/14/07 Posts: 2491	Mon 03/31/08 08:51 PM
Curiously how does an illiterate person know what they are typing? Don't you think the ability to read would be a prerequisite? Copy and paste! Look up illiteracy. You will understand it. An illiterate person will be wowed by the pictures alone. Like Homer says..... Mmmmmmmm doughnuts! Sigh some people just don't know how to use their brains. If I say that illiterate people can put things online. And that they copy/paste. Don't you think that they would have someone else pointing their finger and directing them? Illiteracy: Not able to read or write! What does that have to do with selecting a body of words and pasting them? CTRL + C and CTRL + V! Point and click...... I'm dumbfounded by what you replied with... shame shame! Apples/Oranges. I can't believe I am wasting my time with this dribble.

Dav777 Joined Wed 03/19/08 Posts: 113	Mon 03/31/08 08:52 PM
Curiously how does an illiterate person know what they are typing? Don't you think the ability to read would be a prerequisite? Copy and paste! Look up illiteracy. You will understand it. An illiterate person will be wowed by the pictures alone. Like Homer says..... Mmmmmmmm doughnuts! Sigh some people just don't know how to use their brains. If I say that illiterate people can put things online. And that they copy/paste. Don't you think that they would have someone else pointing their finger and directing them? Illiteracy: Not able to read or write! What does that have to do with selecting a body of words and pasting them? CTRL + C and CTRL + V! Point and click...... I'm dumbfounded by what you replied with... shame shame! Apples/Oranges. I can't believe I am wasting my time with this dribble. I'm drunk, what's your excuse? PS: Another form of illiteracy! HAHAHHAHAAHAHAA

Lily0923 Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 20429	Mon 03/31/08 08:54 PM
Really? Show me where you find this inaccurate? well first off wikipedia can have additions by ANYONE. We played a practical joke on a friend using his name. It was on there, and last I checked it still was. And Europe did not have freedom of religion.... I'm not sure if you heard of a little war called the INQUISITION??????? You know, when the Roman Catholics took power away from the respective countries, so that Catholicism would be made the religion of choice, they then stole the Pagan holidays and used them as Chrisitan holidays, as the books I have read, JESUS WAS BORN IN SEPTEMBER.... not December 25, which co-encideds with the Pagan Yule, of all the same values and traditions as....oh wait, what's that.... oh yes Yule..

Zapchaser Joined Sat 04/14/07 Posts: 2491	Mon 03/31/08 08:54 PM
Do you guys have the slightest inkling that you are arguing your case with someone that agrees with you? Read my posts.If you don't comprehend it the first time read it again a little slower.

Zapchaser Joined Sat 04/14/07 Posts: 2491	Mon 03/31/08 08:56 PM
Curiously how does an illiterate person know what they are typing? Don't you think the ability to read would be a prerequisite? Copy and paste! Look up illiteracy. You will understand it. An illiterate person will be wowed by the pictures alone. Like Homer says..... Mmmmmmmm doughnuts! Sigh some people just don't know how to use their brains. If I say that illiterate people can put things online. And that they copy/paste. Don't you think that they would have someone else pointing their finger and directing them? Illiteracy: Not able to read or write! What does that have to do with selecting a body of words and pasting them? CTRL + C and CTRL + V! Point and click...... I'm dumbfounded by what you replied with... shame shame! Apples/Oranges. I can't believe I am wasting my time with this dribble. I'm drunk, what's your excuse? PS: Another form of illiteracy! HAHAHHAHAAHAHAA Alrighty then......

Zapchaser Joined Sat 04/14/07 Posts: 2491	Mon 03/31/08 09:00 PM
Really? Show me where you find this inaccurate? well first off wikipedia can have additions by ANYONE. We played a practical joke on a friend using his name. It was on there, and last I checked it still was. And Europe did not have freedom of religion.... I'm not sure if you heard of a little war called the INQUISITION??????? You know, when the Roman Catholics took power away from the respective countries, so that Catholicism would be made the religion of choice, they then stole the Pagan holidays and used them as Chrisitan holidays, as the books I have read, JESUS WAS BORN IN SEPTEMBER.... not December 25, which co-encideds with the Pagan Yule, of all the same values and traditions as....oh wait, what's that.... oh yes Yule.. Holy crap! Who pulled the pin? AGAIN, read my posts. We were talking about the first amendment to the constitution. I am sorry I didn't include the Inca's and the Australian Wallabies as well as the phases of the moon. We were talking about...... arrrrgh! Read before you throw up on the board please. It helps to keep the topic focused.

Lily0923 Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 20429	Mon 03/31/08 09:03 PM
Really? Show me where you find this inaccurate? well first off wikipedia can have additions by ANYONE. We played a practical joke on a friend using his name. It was on there, and last I checked it still was. And Europe did not have freedom of religion.... I'm not sure if you heard of a little war called the INQUISITION??????? You know, when the Roman Catholics took power away from the respective countries, so that Catholicism would be made the religion of choice, they then stole the Pagan holidays and used them as Chrisitan holidays, as the books I have read, JESUS WAS BORN IN SEPTEMBER.... not December 25, which co-encideds with the Pagan Yule, of all the same values and traditions as....oh wait, what's that.... oh yes Yule.. Holy crap! Who pulled the pin? AGAIN, read my posts. We were talking about the first amendment to the constitution. I am sorry I didn't include the Inca's and the Australian Wallabies as well as the phases of the moon. We were talking about...... arrrrgh! Read before you throw up on the board please. It helps to keep the topic focused. I amswered the questio that was posed to me, I'm sorry that I took so much time in doing so, you recanted and decided that that question that you asked of me was no longer valid.....