the thing is he does get it . but what rights do fathers have when we are orderd to pay bu work isnt available . with my hours being cut because of the eonomy my child support takes more then half my wages what am i supposed to live on ? where are the fathers rights?

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128360

east valley tribune artical written the day after arpaios raid . one of the paragraphs reffers to arpaio defending the time of the raid . is that better rose back on topic .

ok lets look at the other side . a friend of mine is paying cild support for two kids to his ex wife , his parents have custody of one of the children , he has filed paperwork with both courts and childsupport and nothing has been accomplished . his son sees none of that money . is this right ?

there is not a single court here that works like that . i have never heard of a single case deffered around here . like i said discretion of the judge . you loose your job cant pay your a deadbeat dad . judges own words

they rarely want to work things out . especialy if the ex that is owed the rears wants to push the issue . my brother went in saw the judge and was thrown in jail

number one i didnt take us off topic this time i respondid to willing who wanted to bring it back up by caling my brother a criminal . number two my brother is 4 months behind . because he lives in maricopa county it is a zero tollerance . and is at discretion of the judge .

thay do the same thing here . doesnt make someone a criminal . it means they are in a bad position in a bad economy

the story came out on fox 10 news in phoenix , a week after the warrant . the timing of the service of the warrant is a reason for the dispute .

like my brother ? oh he couldnt pay his child support so he is a criminal . you know your a real class act man . you cant shut me up so your going to personaly attack my family . spoken like a true conservitive . good job bro .

it's not the border patrol doing these checkpoints its maricopa sherriffs officers . they have the man power to do this . makes alot of since huh ? no matter which way you cut it it is wrong . most of these people being checked are american citizens . who shouldnt be ran just because they are hispanic . and whether it is the only way or not wrong is wrong and it should not be allowed .

i do read my own paper . the raid was done after the deadline on the warrant smart guy . makes the warrant knull and void . thus the reason for the mayor of mesa and phoenix going after sherriff joe . but good try.

i just came up with a better way . start these check points eerywhere but instead of immigration check points the are an immigration warant , dui , terrorist check point . then you are checking all races . that makes about as much sense as the way they are doing it no doesnt it ?

i'm not whining , i'm making a point . is it right to run everyone they see because they may have a warrant ? they are still on the streets illegaly . i'm saying the way they are doing it is rediculous . an american citizen is still an american citizen regardless of the skin color . and these check points may catch illegals . but it also shows the legals that unless you are white regardless of what we say we dont trust you .

see the min someone mentions lets start running white people it's no good . but they might find people with felony warrants . right ? wht limit the profileing to race and lega status . the people with warrants should be off the street to right ?

so if your going to do these checkpoints , lets do them everywhere , not just here , and lets check everyone not just a certain race . lets see how long that lasts.

yes dui check points are a good thing i didnt say they werent i said these check points are like a dui checkpoint . the difference they check everyone at a dui checkpoint regardless of there color . they are protecting people from drunk drivers . who are these guys protecting people from?

do it like the have always done it . the old fashoned wasy . these cops know who is illegal and who isnt . it's all about sherriff joe flexing his muscles . it keeps him in the press , most of this stuff kept him in the press durring the last election , and press wether good or bad is press , and now since the elections have finished and he was reelected by a narrow margin he has started to back off . he does these things around election time to make sure people havent forgotten about him

so lets run someone who looks mexican that was borne and raised here and works hard and pays his taxes and raises his kids . because we think he might be here illegaly . lets not stop there lets do it to middleeasterners too they might wanna blow us up . lets do it to white people too because they might be russian and right now they dont like us either . where do we draw the line ?

these are not all raids , some of these are like check points that our lovely sherriff joe is setting up . i have been through them they are like a dui check point only they are checking every hispanic who grows through some of which were born and raised here , and the only thing they know about mexico is what they have been told by there parents . and the raid on the mesa city offices was without a warrant or investigation . the mayor of mesa was criticiseing joe so to flex his muscles he instituted the raid . thus the reason mesa has requested mcso not be allowed in mesa anymore . guadalupe has done the same .

all you have to do is watch there reactions . you can pick out the illegals when the cops come around . especialy border patrol .