P.S. I don't mean we have to be obsessed about what others think, but instead, mindful. There are benefits to having people who like you and are willing to help you out.

The following is applicable to nearly all professions or lifestyles --

If other people like you more, it's easier to:
Convince someone of something.
Have a better relationship with strangers, friends, coworkers, and family.
Make more friends - which can make life interesting in unexpected ways.

Of course, you can live your life saying other people's opinions of you don't matter, and you'll still probably do okay. You've done fine so far, right?

But, people tend to want to live life trying to do what's advantageous. I see no benefit in completely disregarding others opinions of you, where as the opposite attitude can be like a huge, open door to all sorts of opportunities.

It's an easy choice for me...

Now, I know I'm overstepping some boundaries here, but...

I don't know how your relationship with your father is, but if he's telling you to work on your people's skills, maybe that says something. I know I'm talking about your business and about things I don't know about you, but I'll still say it, in case I've guessed right:
Changing your attitude may make your relationship with your father better. You may be too prideful to admit it, but you may like that.

Lol, good one. How's that for an afterlife, guys?

Why do you mean when you say that nurses practice more medicine than doctors? I mean, a doctor practices medicine all day, just like a nurse does.

I suppose you mean that the nurses practice a more important aspect of medicine? That is tough to argue, but it's arguable.

When you say "hands on," what do you mean by that? Again, a doctor practices medicine all day long.

I'm interested by your post. It feels like you have some personal experience with this. Would you mind writing why you feel this way?

Thanks for pointing this out. I had checked my stats, but perhaps I should have posted a link to it. I'll do so now, and summarize the information for everyone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurse

And you're right, I simplified to exaggerate my point (something I shouldn't do), but it's more or less true.

For the US:
LPN/LVN - 18mo to 2 years.
RN - 2 years, some study up to 4 years.
Nurse Practitioner - 4 years (not mentioned in the Wikipedia article)
APN - graduate level.
DPN - doctorate level.

Of course, the majority of nurses are LPNs and RNs.

Again, compare this to a doctor's +8 years of training after undergraduate.

I thought the following was implied by the question, but apparently, I was a bit clumsy. Let me rephrase and restate:


FIRST, for the sake of discussion, let's *assume* that God exists per the Judeo-Christian tradition.


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How do we know that God's will is correct and good? Do you have any proof of that, or is it simply a belief?

Second, is there circumstantial evidence that God's will *may not* be good??? But in fact, may be evil?

Certain answers to this second question naturally leads us to wonder, when we worship God, are we, in reality, accidentally worshiping the Devil? (Sorry if this is offensive.)
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Sorry, should I delete all of this? I realize I posted this without your permission.

I know people don't know this stuff. My parents are doctors, so I've heard a bit about this:

Nurses are generally schooled for two years after the bachelor's compared to a doctor's +8. I would not take a nurse's word on this matter because she is not the one who knows how to make the decision.

What's more, I've heard it's best to take organs when the heart is still pumping because tissue decay is minimal, so a pumping heart is not a criteria. Also, a heart can pump on it's own long after death - this is a fail-safe mechanism that the heart can pump autonomously.

Lastly, I think fresh cadavers might move due to residual nerve activity.

Quote from 2KidsMom (Just in case you want credit. If you don't just say so.):


How do we know that God's will is correct and good? Do you have any proof of that, or is it a belief?

Second, is there circumstantial proof that God's will *may not* be good, but may in fact, be evil.

Certain answers to this second question naturally leads us to wonder, when we worship God, are we, in reality, accidentally worshiping the Devil? (Sorry if this is offensive.)

I guess you have to trust that God's will is correct then. I think I'll create a new thread from this. ^_^

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I think I'll collect some of the info from this thread. After a time, I'll recreate the thread. I think it's good to promote awareness about these things.

Perhaps, then, it is not you I question, but your sources for research.

If your research includes the accounts of affected family members, I would be skeptical. The average person does not understand medicine like a doctor; some people may argue and believe that a family member can be saved when doctors know it is not possible.
If, however, your sources are JAMA or AMA for example, they'd be more credible because these are medical journals - scientific literature.

I don't know about kidney stones, but I would guess that you can still donate. Kidney stones usually develop because of a mixture of genetics and diet. On the genetics side, it means you process certain metals (calcium) less efficiently, pr perhaps the channels inside the kidneys are too narrow. As a result, you have accumulation (not sure about this...this is just my understanding).
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I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, but you may want to look into changing your diet. Google and Wiki kidney stones and you may find resources that can help you improve your diet.

That's very useful information. I'll have to remember that!

If they take your organs, the risk of becoming a vegetable is non-existent. Rather, you'll die. ^_^

Anyhow, the mistake you mentioned is extremely rare and today, it is probably more myth than truth - horror stories tend to be.
There is no reason doctors would be *eager* to get those organs. A mistake like that would cost the doctor and all those involved his license. Logically, health care providers would er on the side of *not* donating for risk of being sued, unless they were sure that the patient was hopeless.

Here is the literature against your claim:
http://www.kidney.org/transplantation/livingDonors/infoPrograms.cfm

What's more, in the case of incompatibility, you can do a "Kidney Exchange:"

One states that they are willing to donate a kidney for a loved one. In exchange, a compatible kidney is shipped over and given to the loved one.

Scroll down this page to the "Exchange Program" section:
http://www.kidney.org/transplantation/livingDonors/infoPrograms.cfm

Sorry, don't take this as being rude, but I was curious about people's answers to the question. Maybe we can start a thread entitled: Are you or your loved ones organ donors? And do certain political figures need brain transplants (lmao)? The question is:


For those of you are *not willing* to give your organs, what is your reasoning behind not being a registered organ donor?

Thank you for repeating. I think that's a very important point to make people aware of.

These days, someone on dialysis may live another 10-20 years. With your kidney, that person can live into his or her 90's.

I do not mean to attack, but instead to just offer this information and another question:

What is more important? The "what if" that your may suddenly need an extra kidney OR giving someone their entire life back?