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oh yeah thomas like Bush was the strategic mastermind...that's why America can't handle a handful of teenagers in cargo shorts. What logic is it to blame Obama when the wars have been going on for 8 years? the biggest thing bush had going for him was that he let those who knew what they were doing essentially have the reigns. Other than Cheney, of course, who needed a tighter leash. Obama just looks lost. His generals on the ground have given their reports and nobody has a better perspective. This decision should have taken two days at most. There is obviously a political side of this we are not being directly told. Maybe it's as simple as not wanting to look like he rushed in, but I think he is between a rock and a hard place. On one side, he wants to duck and run, but on the other is the appearance of appearing weak. He cannot win his internal battle here. This decision needs to be made based on what is really best regardless of what everyone thinks - not his own selfish ideals. |
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That's what am saying. It needs to be incorporated into the history texts. Sociology classes need to teach about the different cultures and their history, But we need ot quit making each event into something special as all it does is keep racism and bigotry alive. Forgive me, I am not trying to say we shouldn't teach about what has been done to the black culture, or to women in history; I am not saying we shouldn't teach about black rights and women's sufferage over the years. That should ALL be taught as a part of history class, or possibly even government class (as in human rights, women sufferage throughout the years). BUT by dedicating an entire month to these things, it is not teaching anything. It is just bringing a lot of emotion back up to the head of the boil. And while yes, it is god to bring that stuff up in order to purge the boil, it needs to be done in a more gradual and effective way. The first thing I would do is overhaul all the government offices (federal AND STATE). I agree that the states themselves have the right to have their own laws and hire their own people for their government work, but this right does not supercede federal law, nor does it allow them to hire their friends and family, and then not enforce good work ethics and results. some examples: make it so that the social services departments could not require their receptionists to have a social workers degree. By receptionist, I mean the ladies and gentleman that sit behind the front desk all day long answering the phones, and entering a clients information into the data-system so that when their number is called, the actual social worker is prepared. This is a basic data entry position which does not require a four year degree to perform. ALL states would have some form of welfare to work program, in which welfare recipients were required to attend a fourty hour a week job search program, unless they could show justifiable reason as to why they couldn't attend; like a special needs family member that required they stay home no matter what (verified with a dr's written statement to this effect). These job search programs would be internally reviewed on a quarterly basis at a minimum, and any worker found not enforcing the job search criteria (in other words, allowing the job searchers to just sit and talk all day long and NOT work towards being employed), would be first given a written reprimand, and then if it happened again in a one year time frame, fired for not doing their job. All job searchers in the above program would be required to accept the first job they were offered, no matter what it was, unless they could prove that it would be more of a hardship on them than having no job; for example having to drive 50 miles one way, 5 days a week for minimum wage, and only getting 20 hours per week. Employers would not be able to review your credit history in order to determine eligibility of employment, except in cases where your financial history would directly relate to the job at hand, such as a bank teller. Landlords would not be able to review your credit history/report in aking a decision concerning renting to you. They already have laws in effect to protect them from people who do not pay their rent, it is called court and eviction, and the courts can reverse the charges so that the landlord does not have to pay a cent to evict you. And a big one that would make a lot of people upset: their would be no more "national minority months". For example, no more National women's month, no more "black history" month" no more this type of month or that type of month; all they do is promote discrimination, and put emphasis on the differences between everyone, when we SHOULD be teaching our kids that everybody is the same and thus should be treated the same. I think I will stop ehre thoguh I have a ot of other ideas that I would work at implenting. I know I made a lot of people upset with the last one. I think those are all great ideas, except the black history month thing,,, Segregation and racism and bigotry are all very real in America and I wouldnt think ignoring them would make people more united. I believe the reason we have such things is because history has shown that America can Exclude many groups if left on its own accord. I remember as a kid, the educational system hadnt mentioned one thing a black person had done , had not taught me about anything from my american history except slavery, until junior high. I remmber when BHM came out, the white students laughing and asking why we had a month when blacks never did anything. I think what people ARENT taught has just as much baring on what they come to believe as what they are. IF the month would be replaced with a yearlong curriculum, that would be great.I just dont have faith the history books or the educational system would voluntarily incorporate those things into their yearlong curriculum. Celebrating our differences is just as important as celebrating what makes us the same across the board. White folks have a hard time understanding this concept because the differences we (white folks) celebrated while being the power race in this country have always been based on culture and background. Skin color or classification was considered the same with us. Celebrating cultural differences is really all the different races are doing also. They just happen to have all the same skin color just like we (white folks) did or do. This is an incredibly racist thing to say, BTW. Just because I'm white does not mean that I cannot see other viewpoints. I can talk about my race and it is not racist. I know white folks I am one of them. bulls**t. That's like how blacks will throw around the N word and claim, "it's our word and you can't use it." you made a broad generalization about whites simply because they're white. prejudice based on race = racism. Okay then in your eyes I am racist about my own race then.   If you want to believe that go ahead.  
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I am not saying to not celebrate your culture or family heritage; I am saying do not make it into a National event. That's what am saying. It needs to be incorporated into the history texts. Sociology classes need to teach about the different cultures and their history, But we need ot quit making each event into something special as all it does is keep racism and bigotry alive. Forgive me, I am not trying to say we shouldn't teach about what has been done to the black culture, or to women in history; I am not saying we shouldn't teach about black rights and women's sufferage over the years. That should ALL be taught as a part of history class, or possibly even government class (as in human rights, women sufferage throughout the years). BUT by dedicating an entire month to these things, it is not teaching anything. It is just bringing a lot of emotion back up to the head of the boil. And while yes, it is god to bring that stuff up in order to purge the boil, it needs to be done in a more gradual and effective way. The first thing I would do is overhaul all the government offices (federal AND STATE). I agree that the states themselves have the right to have their own laws and hire their own people for their government work, but this right does not supercede federal law, nor does it allow them to hire their friends and family, and then not enforce good work ethics and results. some examples: make it so that the social services departments could not require their receptionists to have a social workers degree. By receptionist, I mean the ladies and gentleman that sit behind the front desk all day long answering the phones, and entering a clients information into the data-system so that when their number is called, the actual social worker is prepared. This is a basic data entry position which does not require a four year degree to perform. ALL states would have some form of welfare to work program, in which welfare recipients were required to attend a fourty hour a week job search program, unless they could show justifiable reason as to why they couldn't attend; like a special needs family member that required they stay home no matter what (verified with a dr's written statement to this effect). These job search programs would be internally reviewed on a quarterly basis at a minimum, and any worker found not enforcing the job search criteria (in other words, allowing the job searchers to just sit and talk all day long and NOT work towards being employed), would be first given a written reprimand, and then if it happened again in a one year time frame, fired for not doing their job. All job searchers in the above program would be required to accept the first job they were offered, no matter what it was, unless they could prove that it would be more of a hardship on them than having no job; for example having to drive 50 miles one way, 5 days a week for minimum wage, and only getting 20 hours per week. Employers would not be able to review your credit history in order to determine eligibility of employment, except in cases where your financial history would directly relate to the job at hand, such as a bank teller. Landlords would not be able to review your credit history/report in aking a decision concerning renting to you. They already have laws in effect to protect them from people who do not pay their rent, it is called court and eviction, and the courts can reverse the charges so that the landlord does not have to pay a cent to evict you. And a big one that would make a lot of people upset: their would be no more "national minority months". For example, no more National women's month, no more "black history" month" no more this type of month or that type of month; all they do is promote discrimination, and put emphasis on the differences between everyone, when we SHOULD be teaching our kids that everybody is the same and thus should be treated the same. I think I will stop ehre thoguh I have a ot of other ideas that I would work at implenting. I know I made a lot of people upset with the last one. I think those are all great ideas, except the black history month thing,,, Segregation and racism and bigotry are all very real in America and I wouldnt think ignoring them would make people more united. I believe the reason we have such things is because history has shown that America can Exclude many groups if left on its own accord. I remember as a kid, the educational system hadnt mentioned one thing a black person had done , had not taught me about anything from my american history except slavery, until junior high. I remmber when BHM came out, the white students laughing and asking why we had a month when blacks never did anything. I think what people ARENT taught has just as much baring on what they come to believe as what they are. IF the month would be replaced with a yearlong curriculum, that would be great.I just dont have faith the history books or the educational system would voluntarily incorporate those things into their yearlong curriculum. Celebrating our differences is just as important as celebrating what makes us the same across the board. White folks have a hard time understanding this concept because the differences we (white folks) celebrated while being the power race in this country have always been based on culture and background. Skin color or classification was considered the same with us. Celebrating cultural differences is really all the different races are doing also. They just happen to have all the same skin color just like we (white folks) did or do. Why not? White folks have national events?? Actually, no, we don't. We are not allowed to by the court of political correctness. We were 100% ready at my high school, including all the required signatures for membership and teacher sponsorship (on the ground of throwing gas on the fire) to start a white student union (in response to the asian student union, mecha (hispanic) and black student union clubs. We were turned down because it could be viewed as racist by some people. Tell me how that's fair? It is the curse of of being the race in power in this country and we are still the race in power. Sorry, my beer just shot out of my nose. I cannot believe you just said this. Well, actually, i can. racism is an absolute and knows no statistic or race. If you cannot see that then there is no arguing with you. |
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That's what am saying. It needs to be incorporated into the history texts. Sociology classes need to teach about the different cultures and their history, But we need ot quit making each event into something special as all it does is keep racism and bigotry alive. Forgive me, I am not trying to say we shouldn't teach about what has been done to the black culture, or to women in history; I am not saying we shouldn't teach about black rights and women's sufferage over the years. That should ALL be taught as a part of history class, or possibly even government class (as in human rights, women sufferage throughout the years). BUT by dedicating an entire month to these things, it is not teaching anything. It is just bringing a lot of emotion back up to the head of the boil. And while yes, it is god to bring that stuff up in order to purge the boil, it needs to be done in a more gradual and effective way. The first thing I would do is overhaul all the government offices (federal AND STATE). I agree that the states themselves have the right to have their own laws and hire their own people for their government work, but this right does not supercede federal law, nor does it allow them to hire their friends and family, and then not enforce good work ethics and results. some examples: make it so that the social services departments could not require their receptionists to have a social workers degree. By receptionist, I mean the ladies and gentleman that sit behind the front desk all day long answering the phones, and entering a clients information into the data-system so that when their number is called, the actual social worker is prepared. This is a basic data entry position which does not require a four year degree to perform. ALL states would have some form of welfare to work program, in which welfare recipients were required to attend a fourty hour a week job search program, unless they could show justifiable reason as to why they couldn't attend; like a special needs family member that required they stay home no matter what (verified with a dr's written statement to this effect). These job search programs would be internally reviewed on a quarterly basis at a minimum, and any worker found not enforcing the job search criteria (in other words, allowing the job searchers to just sit and talk all day long and NOT work towards being employed), would be first given a written reprimand, and then if it happened again in a one year time frame, fired for not doing their job. All job searchers in the above program would be required to accept the first job they were offered, no matter what it was, unless they could prove that it would be more of a hardship on them than having no job; for example having to drive 50 miles one way, 5 days a week for minimum wage, and only getting 20 hours per week. Employers would not be able to review your credit history in order to determine eligibility of employment, except in cases where your financial history would directly relate to the job at hand, such as a bank teller. Landlords would not be able to review your credit history/report in aking a decision concerning renting to you. They already have laws in effect to protect them from people who do not pay their rent, it is called court and eviction, and the courts can reverse the charges so that the landlord does not have to pay a cent to evict you. And a big one that would make a lot of people upset: their would be no more "national minority months". For example, no more National women's month, no more "black history" month" no more this type of month or that type of month; all they do is promote discrimination, and put emphasis on the differences between everyone, when we SHOULD be teaching our kids that everybody is the same and thus should be treated the same. I think I will stop ehre thoguh I have a ot of other ideas that I would work at implenting. I know I made a lot of people upset with the last one. I think those are all great ideas, except the black history month thing,,, Segregation and racism and bigotry are all very real in America and I wouldnt think ignoring them would make people more united. I believe the reason we have such things is because history has shown that America can Exclude many groups if left on its own accord. I remember as a kid, the educational system hadnt mentioned one thing a black person had done , had not taught me about anything from my american history except slavery, until junior high. I remmber when BHM came out, the white students laughing and asking why we had a month when blacks never did anything. I think what people ARENT taught has just as much baring on what they come to believe as what they are. IF the month would be replaced with a yearlong curriculum, that would be great.I just dont have faith the history books or the educational system would voluntarily incorporate those things into their yearlong curriculum. Celebrating our differences is just as important as celebrating what makes us the same across the board. White folks have a hard time understanding this concept because the differences we (white folks) celebrated while being the power race in this country have always been based on culture and background. Skin color or classification was considered the same with us. Celebrating cultural differences is really all the different races are doing also. They just happen to have all the same skin color just like we (white folks) did or do. This is an incredibly racist thing to say, BTW. Just because I'm white does not mean that I cannot see other viewpoints. I can talk about my race and it is not racist. I know white folks I am one of them. bulls**t. That's like how blacks will throw around the N word and claim, "it's our word and you can't use it." you made a broad generalization about whites simply because they're white. prejudice based on race = racism. |
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More personal responsibility would be a start and I do not mean less social programs nor less government. I mean more personal responsibility in "what can I do personally to make the world a better place to live for everyone." Personal responsibility has nothing do with going around telling everyone else how to live but making sure we live to the best standards possible for ourselves and allow others to make the journey for their personal responsibility on their own. huh? you realize the massive contradictions you make in this statement, right? Personal responsibility has to do with taking care of yourself. Once you start taking care of someone else, it is no longer personal and you are now taking care of society. My move would to be all about true personal responsibility. Basically, the removal of protections for things like social programs, unions, and quite a large portion of the regulations many businesses have to face. True personal responsibility will be the root of all success... Once we get rid of this sense of entitlement and develop a stronger work ethic like the generations of old, we can be strong again. We have to stop looking to others to save us in time of crisis and simply put our big boy pants on and man up. Obviously you have never had to ask for help from others because you were unable to "man up" Hopefully you will never have to. Personal responsibility means minding your business first and foremost. You cannot accurately judge anothers life without "a-ss u ming" most of what you are passing judgement over. So growing up and realizing that you cannot even imagine another persons struggle in life is the first step to personal responsibility. After that if you don't like what your taxes pay for STOP PAYING THEM AND QUIT BITCHING ABOUT IT TO EVERYONE!!! I have a better idea. How about you shut the f**k up about telling me to commit a federal offense! I pay my taxes because that is my duty and (unfortunately) a requirement of a citizen. I will not break the law over this. I will however, advocate that they stop taking all my money. If you want all your money to help a bunch of lazy and ignorant people, be my guest. I'd rather keep more and help out others that I feel truely need it as opposed to those who just eat, sleep, and pop out babies so they can collect more welfare. I don't care about anothers' struggle. i don't care about their upbringing. We are all dealt a hand of cards and we play off what we have. some blow their royal flush and end up in the dumps while some make it big on a pair of deuces. It's not fair, but life was not meant to be. You play off what you have and make the best of it. LOL..well you prove my point well. It's cool dude. I will leave it so we do not get into trouble on here. What point was there to prove? |
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I am not saying to not celebrate your culture or family heritage; I am saying do not make it into a National event. That's what am saying. It needs to be incorporated into the history texts. Sociology classes need to teach about the different cultures and their history, But we need ot quit making each event into something special as all it does is keep racism and bigotry alive. Forgive me, I am not trying to say we shouldn't teach about what has been done to the black culture, or to women in history; I am not saying we shouldn't teach about black rights and women's sufferage over the years. That should ALL be taught as a part of history class, or possibly even government class (as in human rights, women sufferage throughout the years). BUT by dedicating an entire month to these things, it is not teaching anything. It is just bringing a lot of emotion back up to the head of the boil. And while yes, it is god to bring that stuff up in order to purge the boil, it needs to be done in a more gradual and effective way. The first thing I would do is overhaul all the government offices (federal AND STATE). I agree that the states themselves have the right to have their own laws and hire their own people for their government work, but this right does not supercede federal law, nor does it allow them to hire their friends and family, and then not enforce good work ethics and results. some examples: make it so that the social services departments could not require their receptionists to have a social workers degree. By receptionist, I mean the ladies and gentleman that sit behind the front desk all day long answering the phones, and entering a clients information into the data-system so that when their number is called, the actual social worker is prepared. This is a basic data entry position which does not require a four year degree to perform. ALL states would have some form of welfare to work program, in which welfare recipients were required to attend a fourty hour a week job search program, unless they could show justifiable reason as to why they couldn't attend; like a special needs family member that required they stay home no matter what (verified with a dr's written statement to this effect). These job search programs would be internally reviewed on a quarterly basis at a minimum, and any worker found not enforcing the job search criteria (in other words, allowing the job searchers to just sit and talk all day long and NOT work towards being employed), would be first given a written reprimand, and then if it happened again in a one year time frame, fired for not doing their job. All job searchers in the above program would be required to accept the first job they were offered, no matter what it was, unless they could prove that it would be more of a hardship on them than having no job; for example having to drive 50 miles one way, 5 days a week for minimum wage, and only getting 20 hours per week. Employers would not be able to review your credit history in order to determine eligibility of employment, except in cases where your financial history would directly relate to the job at hand, such as a bank teller. Landlords would not be able to review your credit history/report in aking a decision concerning renting to you. They already have laws in effect to protect them from people who do not pay their rent, it is called court and eviction, and the courts can reverse the charges so that the landlord does not have to pay a cent to evict you. And a big one that would make a lot of people upset: their would be no more "national minority months". For example, no more National women's month, no more "black history" month" no more this type of month or that type of month; all they do is promote discrimination, and put emphasis on the differences between everyone, when we SHOULD be teaching our kids that everybody is the same and thus should be treated the same. I think I will stop ehre thoguh I have a ot of other ideas that I would work at implenting. I know I made a lot of people upset with the last one. I think those are all great ideas, except the black history month thing,,, Segregation and racism and bigotry are all very real in America and I wouldnt think ignoring them would make people more united. I believe the reason we have such things is because history has shown that America can Exclude many groups if left on its own accord. I remember as a kid, the educational system hadnt mentioned one thing a black person had done , had not taught me about anything from my american history except slavery, until junior high. I remmber when BHM came out, the white students laughing and asking why we had a month when blacks never did anything. I think what people ARENT taught has just as much baring on what they come to believe as what they are. IF the month would be replaced with a yearlong curriculum, that would be great.I just dont have faith the history books or the educational system would voluntarily incorporate those things into their yearlong curriculum. Celebrating our differences is just as important as celebrating what makes us the same across the board. White folks have a hard time understanding this concept because the differences we (white folks) celebrated while being the power race in this country have always been based on culture and background. Skin color or classification was considered the same with us. Celebrating cultural differences is really all the different races are doing also. They just happen to have all the same skin color just like we (white folks) did or do. Why not? White folks have national events?? Actually, no, we don't. We are not allowed to by the court of political correctness. We were 100% ready at my high school, including all the required signatures for membership and teacher sponsorship (on the ground of throwing gas on the fire) to start a white student union (in response to the asian student union, mecha (hispanic) and black student union clubs. We were turned down because it could be viewed as racist by some people. Tell me how that's fair? |
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That's what am saying. It needs to be incorporated into the history texts. Sociology classes need to teach about the different cultures and their history, But we need ot quit making each event into something special as all it does is keep racism and bigotry alive. Forgive me, I am not trying to say we shouldn't teach about what has been done to the black culture, or to women in history; I am not saying we shouldn't teach about black rights and women's sufferage over the years. That should ALL be taught as a part of history class, or possibly even government class (as in human rights, women sufferage throughout the years). BUT by dedicating an entire month to these things, it is not teaching anything. It is just bringing a lot of emotion back up to the head of the boil. And while yes, it is god to bring that stuff up in order to purge the boil, it needs to be done in a more gradual and effective way. The first thing I would do is overhaul all the government offices (federal AND STATE). I agree that the states themselves have the right to have their own laws and hire their own people for their government work, but this right does not supercede federal law, nor does it allow them to hire their friends and family, and then not enforce good work ethics and results. some examples: make it so that the social services departments could not require their receptionists to have a social workers degree. By receptionist, I mean the ladies and gentleman that sit behind the front desk all day long answering the phones, and entering a clients information into the data-system so that when their number is called, the actual social worker is prepared. This is a basic data entry position which does not require a four year degree to perform. ALL states would have some form of welfare to work program, in which welfare recipients were required to attend a fourty hour a week job search program, unless they could show justifiable reason as to why they couldn't attend; like a special needs family member that required they stay home no matter what (verified with a dr's written statement to this effect). These job search programs would be internally reviewed on a quarterly basis at a minimum, and any worker found not enforcing the job search criteria (in other words, allowing the job searchers to just sit and talk all day long and NOT work towards being employed), would be first given a written reprimand, and then if it happened again in a one year time frame, fired for not doing their job. All job searchers in the above program would be required to accept the first job they were offered, no matter what it was, unless they could prove that it would be more of a hardship on them than having no job; for example having to drive 50 miles one way, 5 days a week for minimum wage, and only getting 20 hours per week. Employers would not be able to review your credit history in order to determine eligibility of employment, except in cases where your financial history would directly relate to the job at hand, such as a bank teller. Landlords would not be able to review your credit history/report in aking a decision concerning renting to you. They already have laws in effect to protect them from people who do not pay their rent, it is called court and eviction, and the courts can reverse the charges so that the landlord does not have to pay a cent to evict you. And a big one that would make a lot of people upset: their would be no more "national minority months". For example, no more National women's month, no more "black history" month" no more this type of month or that type of month; all they do is promote discrimination, and put emphasis on the differences between everyone, when we SHOULD be teaching our kids that everybody is the same and thus should be treated the same. I think I will stop ehre thoguh I have a ot of other ideas that I would work at implenting. I know I made a lot of people upset with the last one. I think those are all great ideas, except the black history month thing,,, Segregation and racism and bigotry are all very real in America and I wouldnt think ignoring them would make people more united. I believe the reason we have such things is because history has shown that America can Exclude many groups if left on its own accord. I remember as a kid, the educational system hadnt mentioned one thing a black person had done , had not taught me about anything from my american history except slavery, until junior high. I remmber when BHM came out, the white students laughing and asking why we had a month when blacks never did anything. I think what people ARENT taught has just as much baring on what they come to believe as what they are. IF the month would be replaced with a yearlong curriculum, that would be great.I just dont have faith the history books or the educational system would voluntarily incorporate those things into their yearlong curriculum. Celebrating our differences is just as important as celebrating what makes us the same across the board. White folks have a hard time understanding this concept because the differences we (white folks) celebrated while being the power race in this country have always been based on culture and background. Skin color or classification was considered the same with us. Celebrating cultural differences is really all the different races are doing also. They just happen to have all the same skin color just like we (white folks) did or do. This is an incredibly racist thing to say, BTW. Just because I'm white does not mean that I cannot see other viewpoints. |
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More personal responsibility would be a start and I do not mean less social programs nor less government. I mean more personal responsibility in "what can I do personally to make the world a better place to live for everyone." Personal responsibility has nothing do with going around telling everyone else how to live but making sure we live to the best standards possible for ourselves and allow others to make the journey for their personal responsibility on their own. huh? you realize the massive contradictions you make in this statement, right? Personal responsibility has to do with taking care of yourself. Once you start taking care of someone else, it is no longer personal and you are now taking care of society. My move would to be all about true personal responsibility. Basically, the removal of protections for things like social programs, unions, and quite a large portion of the regulations many businesses have to face. True personal responsibility will be the root of all success... Once we get rid of this sense of entitlement and develop a stronger work ethic like the generations of old, we can be strong again. We have to stop looking to others to save us in time of crisis and simply put our big boy pants on and man up. Obviously you have never had to ask for help from others because you were unable to "man up" Hopefully you will never have to. Personal responsibility means minding your business first and foremost. You cannot accurately judge anothers life without "a-ss u ming" most of what you are passing judgement over. So growing up and realizing that you cannot even imagine another persons struggle in life is the first step to personal responsibility. After that if you don't like what your taxes pay for STOP PAYING THEM AND QUIT BITCHING ABOUT IT TO EVERYONE!!! I have a better idea. How about you shut the f**k up about telling me to commit a federal offense! I pay my taxes because that is my duty and (unfortunately) a requirement of a citizen. I will not break the law over this. I will however, advocate that they stop taking all my money. If you want all your money to help a bunch of lazy and ignorant people, be my guest. I'd rather keep more and help out others that I feel truely need it as opposed to those who just eat, sleep, and pop out babies so they can collect more welfare. I don't care about anothers' struggle. i don't care about their upbringing. We are all dealt a hand of cards and we play off what we have. some blow their royal flush and end up in the dumps while some make it big on a pair of deuces. It's not fair, but life was not meant to be. You play off what you have and make the best of it. |
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I'd also like to point out the catch-22 of our position:
in order to sustain, expenditures cannot exceed income. We can continue to borrow so long as our debt payments and domestic expenditures do not exceed the income. however, debt is rising at a far faster rate than income. This means that as we take on more debt, more of our income has to be spent on debt and less on expenditures. We are not doing this. Expenditures are growing as well, causing us to borrow more. This leads to an even larger requirement to cut expenditures yet they still grow. See where this is going? |
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we've always had a deficit and we always will as an absolute number it is staggering but as a percentage of our economy it's not so bad during and after world war two the deficit was three or four times more than it is now (as a percentage of the economy) and we recovered and survived the deficit is not all that bad. it's the same as having a mortgage on your home and a couple of cars. The more money you make the bigger mortgage you can afford it DOES have to be paid and shouldn't be allowed to get any bigger but it's not such a doom and gloom thing as people make out The problem is, as with most analogies of what once happened, we are not the same nation we were in the late 1940s and through the 1950s. Then, we were the world power. Sure, russia was there, but we were #1 and they were #2. Third was so far back nobody even knew who they were. We had an enormous workforce returning from war with money to spend (read: houses and cars). We had zero competition. And as a sidenote, after WWII, we also had to assist other nations rebuild and with them without factories, guess who supplied the goods. fast forward to today: we are no longer the lone power. China, Japan and the rest of Asia are some of our largest sources for manufactured goods and China's standing in the world is growing. We have operated a trade deficit for far too long. We no longer have the strength to muscle our way out of a slump and on top of that, social spending (the once you give it you can't take it back stuff) is exponentially higher than it was 40 years ago. We simply cannot save ourselves now on this path. We must bring manufacturing back here, but the businesses are just doing good business and looking out for the bottom line like a business is supposed to and the workers will not work for less. Government protections and regulations are increasing the costs of business here to unheard of levels, pushing more and more until the companies go overseas just so they can compete with foreign business. We are in a catch-22 of epic proportions and nobody is willing to give. The businesses blame the workers, the workers blame the business. The poor demand more and the government takes from the rich and gives to them while the rich businessowner has to cut jobs and make everyone work harder to make the same bottom line or else face failure. Greed is its own vice and virtue. Unfortunately, far too many from all walks of life have bypassed greed as a virtue and are heading back down the slope toward vice. In the end, we have nobody to blame but ourselves. |
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What is good for America?
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More personal responsibility would be a start and I do not mean less social programs nor less government. I mean more personal responsibility in "what can I do personally to make the world a better place to live for everyone." Personal responsibility has nothing do with going around telling everyone else how to live but making sure we live to the best standards possible for ourselves and allow others to make the journey for their personal responsibility on their own. huh? you realize the massive contradictions you make in this statement, right? Personal responsibility has to do with taking care of yourself. Once you start taking care of someone else, it is no longer personal and you are now taking care of society. My move would to be all about true personal responsibility. Basically, the removal of protections for things like social programs, unions, and quite a large portion of the regulations many businesses have to face. True personal responsibility will be the root of all success... Once we get rid of this sense of entitlement and develop a stronger work ethic like the generations of old, we can be strong again. We have to stop looking to others to save us in time of crisis and simply put our big boy pants on and man up. |
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Health Care Bill Passes
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It passed the House now it has to pass the Senate. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091108/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul Penalizing people for either not wanting their insurance or not being able to afford it is an asinine idea. The morons that came up with that idea better expect hell to arise!! Does anyone really think the American people will tolerate honest Americans being punished because the won't or CAN'T afford this insurance?? If the senate knew what was good for everyone, especially them, they better not pass this bill. Bend over 
Of course it might. It worked for car insurance. Make people fear their money is going to be taken and they can support or fight just about anything. The argument for car insurance, as I remember, was that the costs for covering all those uninsured drivers who have accidents gets passed down in higher premiums to those with insurance. Same holds true for health insurance, do you realize how many hospitals are shutting down because they cant afford to keep caring for illegals and others without insurance? It directly affects those who chose insurance when other choose to take the risk of not having it. The thing is, you have the option to not carry car insurance by not having a car. There is no way to opt out of required health insurance. |
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It's not the governments job to insure anybody. This guy might get his wish, but he will also be a one term hack. I think the majority of presidents are one termers. As for the governments job,,,what ARE They supposed to be doing with all those lovely taxes and outrageous incomes they get off of the citizens? I always think that they are supposed to be there for us but apparently many disagree. how about not taking so much of them. |
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Health Care Bill Passes
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Tomorrows headlines....."Insurers to Cut Jobs"....as posted before by me insurers are not making excess profit margins....research it...when profit margins are squeezed job cuts come first...  Good. The insurance companies multi-billion dollar corporate death panels just got shut down Now they are the ones getting canceled the same way they canceled the insurance of so many sick Americans Karma
so naive. |
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do you really even have to ask that question?
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Health Care Bill Passes
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let me ask this again, why is it the insurance companies' fault the healthcare industry does not cover everyone? also, why is there no outcry for the doctors making millions and millions off caring for others? The health care industry is a business, with a bottom line, just like any other.... Once they stop profiting, they will fail... Then government will have to appoint people on Government or state payrolls the replace them... Same with the drug companys.... And so on and so on.... well this was actually for those on the other side of the argument lol |
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Over 10% unemployment
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WOOHOO!!! 10% is the new " normal ". What a great country. when you cannot excel, simply lower the bar. |
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Over 10% unemployment
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Where I work, just about everyone had to take 10% cut in pay and wear more than one hat. We're told business is off 30-40%, yet half the workforce got cut. Do the math. Yet, our healthcare insurance keeps going up, as do most of the things we buy.
study an accounting class for the answer to this one. there are fixed costs in addition to the variable (such as hourly/commission labor) if a product is 40% direct, 20% fixed, and 40% profit (to oversimplify) you still pay the fixed costs even if sales drop to zero. you have to take proportionality in to account and in fact, labor is the easiest cost to cut as workers can work harder. those that want the job will work harder or be replaced by someone who will. They say engineers have to work in 5 dimensions-- the three physical ones plus how much and how soon. I know what the margins are, just as I know that even Einstein wouldn't have been productive the first couple of days on my factory floor. And with a tricky biomed product, it's not like changing light bulbs. What's _your_ experience on the factory floor or the design board? What's your experience with dealing with Fortune 500 companies who have the clout to shove the loss leader items down your throat for the rare privilege of doing the 10% niche items that are profitable? Do you _really_ think that a few tax breaks are going to get Wal*Mart to give up the China connection? Or that we can win the race to the bottom with good ole fashioned dog-eat-dog capitalism by itself? -Kerry O. the fact americans expect to see a $25 an hour paycheck for working an assembly line is what drives walmart to china. we as a society have priced ourselves out of the market here. |
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Health Care Bill Passes
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let me ask this again, why is it the insurance companies' fault the healthcare industry does not cover everyone?
also, why is there no outcry for the doctors making millions and millions off caring for others? |
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Forgetting the Kids
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Who gets to pick what to teach them? the real world was the best teacher i ever had. strict and unforgiving mf'er, but i learned fast. |
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