The same could be said for playing games with people's emotions with faulty science. If the info is all wrong, then we have been lied to and manipulated. That is no better.

I don't think of it as political (though politicians on both sides have made it that way). I just understand the economics that green energies are far more costly to implement than standard energy. If the market determines we should make the move, then I'm for it, but I do not believe forcing technology on American businesses that will put them at a stark disadvantage in the world. Our regulation is already stifling jobs, we don't need more.

wait until you have a hardware failure. That is when things get really crappy. Finding diagnostic utilities is a royal PITA for maccintosh. At least the intel ones are better than the old ones where a lot of stuff was board-integrated. I imagine the iMacs are still like that though. i only have experience on the pros.

for software stability, they can't be beat (though I'm having tremendous luck with windows 7 thus far, even on a crappy netbook) but as for hardware, it's still intel, nvidia, and all the same companies that build stuff for PCs.

no, but if you can tell me how us not changing anything caused the global warming thing we were all warned about to pull a 180 into the cooling we're now facing, i'm all ears.

I think the recent documents and facts coming to light are going to turn the educational world on it's side. I'm sure we're looking at trillions worldwide that have been invested into the research of this f'n topic and everyone jumped on the bandwagon because it's free money.

Climate cycles are normal. Man-made, I'm completely doubtful that we can do that and I believe it is completely arrogant to think we have that much control.

right, that was about buffet.

Oh, so one billionaire thinks that all the rich can pay more.

You know what? If he gave 75% of his money away, HE'S STILL A F**KING BILLIONAIRE! he still has more money that all of us on this site will make in our lifetimes.

I'm sorry. It's people like you that are wrong with the system because you listen to "experts." Just because one person says it's so does not make it absolute. Try weening yourself off the talking points and think for yourself for once. Why is it that way? Why is it fair? i can argue and explain where my logic comes from. I've had no such luck from you.

you still haven't proven your statements either. And to clarify (since the definition of what hate is is so much lower for guys like limbaugh to you and high when convenient), he preaches how bad and wrong it is even though it made him filthy rich. quit dodging questions.

Either way, f**k it. I'm done arguing with someone bringing a proverbial knife to a gun fight. If you ever want anyone to take you serious in a discussion, you really should back up your "opinions" with fact. Especially when your only response when confronted with fact is "that's not true"

Well, being that I am 100% against "protecting traditional marriage," I guess it's ok for me not to like this too. Really, I see marriage as a big *** expensive party in the middle of a relationship anyway so my bar is not all that high.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JKD2JrzP0Q


While his latest movie technically sounds like he fully supports capitalism (i.e. no giving money to all these big businesses) it is in reality that he just speaks out more against big business than capitalism. He has often spoken out saying the rich need to pay more of their earnings to benefit the poor. That, is against capitalism.

The argument I'm making has nothing to do with the relative income, only that while Limbaugh makes millions in the system (capitalism) that he supports, Moore too makes millions and claims so much to hate the very system he has exploited to gain that wealth. To clarify, I have no issues with someone making a couple hundred million on a movie they produce.

But this post is spot on otherwise.

To redefine my statement, he is extremely socially liberal and his economic beliefs root in those social beliefs.

I believe I asked you for examples of this hate-mongering and you came back with nothing. We are arguing your premises on this topic. If you wish to challenge Moore's hypocrisy, well, I think I already justified my claim. Otherwise, I will not give any credit to your claim until you can at least try to prove it to me.

Thanks for the examples.
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I suggest you read more on what Moore promotes.

Woah, seriously!?!

I just re-read that and you admit you're not very well versed on Moore but you're having this argument with me!?! Really!?!

I suggest you stop arguing topics because of your hatred of one side when you admit complete ignorance to the other.

1. Explain to me how Moore is not an extreme liberal.
2. Explain to me how Limbaugh takes advantage of a program/system he very much enjoys to the extent of Moore. Either that or give me solid evidence he's a hypocrite to the extreme Moore is.

There is a third too, but I know you'll fixate on it and I really want #2 answered.

No, you see, Moore caters to the left in ideology, but due to the ideology of the right, he is doing very well for himself. he is taking advantage of the very system he complains about. It is hypocracy to the highest degree.

His product is a "selective documentary" for lack of a better term where the only side shown is the one you want to show. It is therefore, not a documentary and is an entertainment film. By the way, Sicko netted (as in profits) over $25 million. His latest grossed almost $15 million.

Farenheit 9/11... over $215 million dollars NET. two hundred fifteen f'n million! How can you be so blind as to not see they hypocrisy of a guy that makes that kind of money (yes, I understand he didn't take all of it) sitting there saying our system of capitalism is fatally flawed? That very system has made him a multimillionaire. he whines incessantly about that "top 1%" but he is in that top 1%!


However, Limbaugh ******* and moans about everything the liberals and "drive by media" do but he actually sticks to his guns and doesn't take advantage of the liberal programs for the most part.


Either way, they're both wrong and both brainwash many, but at least Limbaugh isn't bitching about the very system that is making him rich.

Both of them spread the same hatred for the opposite side. Limbaugh, for liberals in general; Moore spreads the same hate for the wealthy and those that truely want less restricted capitalism.

The only difference is that Rush sticks with his protests while Moore is one of the biggest hypocrites in existence.

wait, so I guess you're right. In order for Moore to be spreading hate, he would have to actually practice what he preaches. Nevermind then. I guess if you're a lying fake that taking advantage of people's emotions for personal gain, you really aren't spreading hate if your primary goal is personal gain.

No hatred!?! Have you listened to him?

I'd have to disagree there, though I think that much of Rush's knowledge comes from years in the thick of it. I don't support either, but somtimes, Rush makes some sense. I've had no such luch with MM. Even a broken clock is right every now and then.

Right, the government is paying me to go to college for cyber-security because I suck with computers. You might want to call cisco and take my CCNA too. And my A+. And you should call Microsoft and tell them not to let me sit for their exams this spring.

The biggest problem with Macs is the arrogant, elitist attitude that comes along with the owners. All computers fail. The hardware inside a Windows box and a Mac are no different. When a PC fails, it's really easy to figure out why. A mac is no such luck.

Yes, the software is far more stable but that is the proprietary nature. By limiting what can be put into the machine, you control a lot more variables.

actually, exit polling showed that the increase in blacks voting for the democratic candidate increased by a far greater percentage than any other demographic. Well outside the margin of error. I saw the report last december but just googled and cannot find it again.

Truthfully though, blacks in general normally vote democratic so a larger percentage point increase may not necessarily indicate a larger proportion - basically, 20% increase from 60% is the same proportion as a 10% increase from 30% (both a 1:3 ratio)

yeah. it's where you "flag" your neighbors that are speaking out.

Sometimes. In my experiences, Macs fail too. However, when a PC fails, there's hundreds of tools out there to help you. With Mac, you are SOL. The proprietary nature is the greatest strenght and weakness of apple.