get out of the sand box then before you get sand all over you, oh, sorry I didn't recognize your humor at first. I have explained my positions repeadtidly, now I will leave you to your sand box and shake the sand from my feet as I leave once more! love ya P.S. for something you say you are not interested in you seem to spend a lot of time on these threads rather than the wiccon ones!

it's the mad coww....as you can see if you back up far enough I did as soon as I realized I had hit the wrong key

Thank God almighty I chose to keep learning new things about faith, the one thing that seems to stay fresh in my mind over the last few years is to forgive myself as well as others.

iam4u, my heart and prayers are with you and your family today, when it seems as though I spins my wheels, the lord shows me some other deals. thank you for sharing with us your hard times, and God bless you. Daniel

well said, thanx jb

There will obviously be people on earth that I will continue to love and pray for, at the same time detesting what they do. We as followers of christ are to be in the world but not of the world. Too many "so called good religious people" of many different sects do not have the ability to separate their own ideas about justice even from what their own dogma states. Very sad

probably, I lost my mother to it.

Oh well, I guess that explains everything, now I can quit learning. gues some missed the par about "time" and that creation may have taken trilions of light years. thanks

bottom line...we don't know.. I think that where the line in some rock and roll song "give me somth'in to believe in" comes from. as for me I will choose to believe in the teachings of Jesus.

oopsy

From myspace, a different way of looking at some things !

I created the universe. I created man by using evolution. There is a missing link in mankind's theory of evolution. The missing link is many light years long. That is the amount of your "time" I took to extract some earthly being's body from the planet and inject a soul into it (make it humanoid). While I was doing this, almost all other life on the planet you call earth was eliminated along with the dinosaurs. After allowing other forms of less threatening life to evolve again, I put Man back on the planet. Then I cloned woman from man and put her on earth. This all took place about seven thousand of your calendar years ago. Humans have killed the body my son has occupied many times. You have tried to kill the one he occupies now many times. Your lying proseciutors and judges have had him locked up in your prisons and your psychiatric wards. They have done this to try to silence his true message and to make money. You have forced him into a life of poverty with your judgmental record keeping! You need to stop; you have started world wars with you pursuit of power and greed! If you are part of any of this system of revenge, or preservation of wealth, beware, you will suffer a thousand times for each harmful act you have inflicted on him or anyone else, for any reason. Do not harm your self either, I love you and it hurts me to see you abuse yourself! I will only forgive you to the extent you forgive your fellow man! Humans can never own anything! I own it all, and yet you continue to lie, and steal from me by using your concept of ownership! I gave "USE" of the planet you call earth to all humans that are descendents of my creation. There is plenty of food to feed every person on the planet. There are plenty of funds/money to provide good medical care for every person on the planet. You had better start caring more about your fellow man than your fancy cars, clothes and homes etc. Throughout history humans have allowed killing of each other for many different reasons. World wars have been fought because of nothing but greed and lies. It is not always the people’s fault who starts them. Many times they were just doing what they were taught by a corrupt society that cares more about money and or power than it does about the well being of it's fellow man. Understand, that not all humanoid entities on earth are of my creation, some of them are of satan/evil. These soul-less creatures (that outwardly look like humans) are using humans so that they may remain wealthy and in power. They distort the truth to the point that it seems like reality. Most of them become the leaders of major organizations on earth. Some of these organizations are things like; religions, governments, huge private clubs (Free Masons) and many more. Quit giving respect to people based on what they look like or what they own or there status in society. They are lying to you in order to get you to do there destructive work for them. "Be ye not un-equally yoked" or in other words, do not become involved with liars. Do not work for them, do not date or marry them. Do not have any relationship with any person whom makes a lie. It is easy to see who they are. They will speak in absolutes when an absolute is a lie. They will make things up to try to get you to spend your time/money to obtain what they want for themselves, and give very little to you. KNOW YE THIS; Lies come from "in the forehead", your brain, and "on the palm of the hand". This is the way it should have been written in English. The money and goods you give value to (which in reality have no value) get passed from palm of the hand to palm of the hand. That is how you should be able to identify the "mark of the beast/satan". My son told you to do two things before the heads of the organization you call "church" crucified him about two thousand years ago. Teach the gospel (truth) and love one another. The real Church is the body and spirit of my son. The other organizations you call church are only large political clubs. Politics is religion! The only way to get into my presence is through my sons’ teachings, honesty and love is all he taught! If you are using the moments I gave you for anything else, you are "bastards" (it's in the book you call "bible"). Understand that men wrote the "bible". Man has decided who many of the "saints" are, these men are not saints! Many of your rock and roll music era artists tried to express these things to you, and your "church" people came up with laws to shut them up and lock them up and discredit their true message. "Rock and Roll”, the most famous rock that ever rolled is the one that rolled away from the tomb of Jesus Christ (not a coincidence). Quit judging each other, that is my business, and no one else's. Locking people up for things they might do is just as bad as doing those things yourself. "Vengence is mine". By the way, the earth does not end for trillions of light years from now. However, "TIME" (another form of lying so that one person can be worth more money and have more power or influence than another) will end the moment someone is stupid enough to kill the body my son occupies now! Hence his words, "Lo, I am with you always, even until the end of time". When my son said "I will return in like manor", he meant he will get there the same way he did the first time, through a human womb! He has already been born from the womb. You will not be able to figure out who he is until I decide to give the gift of all power to him. For those of you, who seem to have a problem with a mother Mary's virgin birth, look up the meaning of the word "hermaphrodite"! ONE MORE THING, Doctors are not God, Judges are not God, the Pope is not God! I'M NOT GOD, or at least I don't think I am! I'm just trying to get people to think for themselves instead of continuing to kill each other in the name of GOD, ALLAH, YAWEH, JEHOVAH, COUNTRY, FAMILY etc, etc, etc!

As far as my choice of words "Muslim extremist" I probably should have pointed out that it is not only Muslim extremist's that are the problem. It is any organization or person, that takes to the extreme the idea it is OK to bring harm to anyone, and then acts on it! I don't know all the answere's, but will keep learnig and trying as long as I am able to try to close the pandora's box of hatred. I was once invloved in the party life which caused me to have some associates who were not nice guy's. One night a group of them decided they were going to try to do me harm, possibly kill me. When they stood up and started towards me, I realized I was in trouble. I yelled, "In the name of god stop",,,they did ! that's just one of the situations I can not explain in my life. There have been many times that I was near death and or even a few where I passed and came back. I do not know exactly why that is, but believe it has a lot to do with my faith in God / love!

yepper's, now if we can get the money moguls in the world to agree about these thoughts maybe we can stand a chance of not destroying this planet !

got it, was in a hurry !

Amen, or as "amen" actually means in hebrew "so be it". even though I personally believe that there is some sort of higher being, we can't keep juging each other based on who we choose to worship or soon we will all be gone. (my true nature, go to the poems threads, read "one child") P.S. excellent choice of words krimsa

krimsa, there have been many types of groups of people throughout history to twist the true nature of human reality to fit there own agenda. I think that this is the problem with most all bad things that happen on the face of this planet. I once new a man who chose to be part of a certain relgious group. while he did not actually believe exactly like the dogma of that particular group did, he was very instumental in helping alot of people who were in true need of help, rathing judging them before he was willing to offer his help. he was looked at as kind of a maverick. years later he bacame one of the leaders of this group. he expressed to me at one time that if we are to truly make a difference in the world that we should learn to do it with the skill of a surgeon rather than the blade of a head hunter. I admit to myself and all that I may not be verry good at applying this princple at all times. What I try to do when communicating with most anyone about most things of philosophy is to try to get them to think for themselves instead of being some sort of judgmental ass_____! some of the points I make are good if taken correctly,,and some maybe not. I do really care about others, probably too much for my own good. I don't really care for the word "christian" only because it implies to be "christlike" and to date there has been no one person who has been able to even come close to to having the impact on world events that he has. If many of the worlds mainstream religions would get off of their holier than thou head trips and try to be half as honest as christ was the world would change for the good almost immediatly. but they probably won't. so in the mean time the best we can do is try to help with others needs, emotional and physical. the one way I try do do that is by doing what I have just done. speak from my heart.. love ya sweety, later Daniel

what does seed faith mean to you?

A seed is a marvel thing,

If to life we want to cling.

We plant not knowing to bring,

To the harvest much after the spring.

We watch as a new thing grows,

Both up and down from the toe's.

We wonder as know one knows,

The Lord only shows.

For a life is not of un-sown,

But of the seed planted yet grown !

Daniel

I would vote, but I don't believe it is correct to support deceitfullness!

ONE CHILD


As a child grows,

We should all grow.

When one child cries,

We should all cry.

When one child hurts,

We should all hurt.

When one child hungers,

We should all hunger.

When one child hate's

We All hurt.

When one child loves,

We should all learn.

If one child should die,

The world should cry.

Daniel, 2008