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Sun 11/22/09 08:24 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sun 11/22/09 08:24 AM



Just to let YOU know,,,(reported in november 2008)


U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have reached a 14-year high. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment climbed to 6.5 percent in October, as the country shed 240,000 jobs. U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have certainly increased--for example, the unemployment rate for October 2007 was 4.7 percent. So far this year, the country has lost 1.2 million jobs, and over half of the decrease took place in just the last three months. Some suggest the situation could grow more bleak: Goldman Sachs projects the unemployment rate will reach 8.5 percent by the end of 2009. Another source I spoke with recently believes it could soar as high as 10 percent in the near future.


inevitable increase in the rate regardless of who followed Bush.again, not something I agree can be DIRECTLY blamed on this administration.


you study is flawed...seeing that the unemployment rate is 10.2 percent NOT 8.5...also...we've lost over 3.5 million jobs since the stimulis was passed...500,000 people every week sign up for unemployment...the Fed says we're looking at 11 or 12 percent unemploymeny by the end of next year...and...could take several years to come back...


they arent studies so much as projections, the numbers can be expected to have slight fluctuation. The point was that the downhill flow that began under bush was expected to rise and it has,,how much it would rise differed depending upon which projections you looked at but there were projections that stated we would be exactly where we are as well. So I dont agree that this situation is directly the result of this administration. AS to the job losses ,something else I feel was inevitable. My president said this would take time and I never thought it wouldnt.


Obamas policies have made things worse...ask any small business man...he's wrecked the economy...like I said before ...when Bush left office...unemployment stood at 6.5%...thats a fact !!..look...he's asking for another stimulis but calling it a jobs bill...proving that the 787 was a waste...just as this next bill will be...it's not very hard...just let people keep more of what they earn...and get the fugg out of the way...free market capitalism...is how you grow the economy...like Bush said...you're either with us or against us...:smile:

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Sun 11/22/09 08:09 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sun 11/22/09 08:14 AM

Just to let YOU know,,,(reported in november 2008)


U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have reached a 14-year high. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment climbed to 6.5 percent in October, as the country shed 240,000 jobs. U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have certainly increased--for example, the unemployment rate for October 2007 was 4.7 percent. So far this year, the country has lost 1.2 million jobs, and over half of the decrease took place in just the last three months. Some suggest the situation could grow more bleak: Goldman Sachs projects the unemployment rate will reach 8.5 percent by the end of 2009. Another source I spoke with recently believes it could soar as high as 10 percent in the near future.


inevitable increase in the rate regardless of who followed Bush.again, not something I agree can be DIRECTLY blamed on this administration.


you study is flawed...seeing that the unemployment rate is 10.2 percent NOT 8.5...also...we've lost over 3.5 million jobs since the stimulis was passed...500,000 people every week sign up for unemployment...the Fed says we're looking at 11 or 12 percent unemployment by the end of next year...and...could take several years to come back...

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Sun 11/22/09 07:56 AM

LOVE IT!! Here is the formula...


Our candidate wins " every accomplishment is because of him and all the set backs are someone elses fault"

Our candidate loses ' every accomplishment is because of the PARTY holding office and not the president and every setback is DIRECTLY the presidents fault'


I swear this forum is endlessly hypocritical and inconsistent,, I dont know why I keep coming back..lol must be love


just to let you know...the unemployment rate in Nov 2008 was 6%..in 2007 we had under employment...remember those days when companies couldn't find enough people to work...the rate then was around 5%...how you can blame Bush for an almost doubling of the rate when he was no longer in office...this is and has been Obamas economy...remember this...no country has ever taxed and spent it's way to prosperity...

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Sun 11/22/09 07:45 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sun 11/22/09 07:50 AM






Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...by insisting that we needed to spend 787 billion dollars or unemployment would reach 8%...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You can change all the I KNOWS to I think or I believe. None of us know for sure. If everything you think were true, I still would not vote McCain,, what you said reinforced my opinion. He would have done plenty BUT work to do something about the underinsured, work to improve our education, work to improve our healthcare, work to improve our reputation around the world. HE may have helped the rich remain rich, but he would have done little else,,even by your own accolades. I wanted more and I think I got it.


you wanted more ?...more mysery...more unemployment...more people on food stamps...more homeless...more people going hungry...more government control...less freedom...more speeches...more indecision...more liberalism...like the mobfather says..." Obama is immature...inexperienced...and...in over his head ! "...:smile:


Not things I attribute to this administration. WE can agree to disagree strongly on those. We obviously just have differing political priorities, as evident by your non support of Clinton as well whom I think did a phenomenal job.


because he had a Republican congress to hold his feet to the fire...look what you have now with the democRATS in control...not a pretty sight...I think the Clinton motto of " It's the economy stupid "...looks like they may have been speaking to Obama...just two short weeks ago he said " I want to get back to that post recession bubble "...that's called CAPITALISM !!!...

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Sun 11/22/09 07:40 AM




Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...by insisting that we needed to spend 787 billion dollars or unemployment would reach 8%...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You can change all the I KNOWS to I think or I believe. None of us know for sure. If everything you think were true, I still would not vote McCain,, what you said reinforced my opinion. He would have done plenty BUT work to do something about the underinsured, work to improve our education, work to improve our healthcare, work to improve our reputation around the world. HE may have helped the rich remain rich, but he would have done little else,,even by your own accolades. I wanted more and I think I got it.


you wanted more ?...more mysery...more unemployment...more people on food stamps...more homeless...more people going hungry...more government control...less freedom...more speeches...more indecision...more liberalism...like the mobfather says..." Obama is immature...inexperienced...and...in over his head ! "...:smile:

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Sun 11/22/09 07:21 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sun 11/22/09 07:25 AM


Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...by insisting that we needed to spend 787 billion dollars or unemployment would reach 8%...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...

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Sun 11/22/09 07:08 AM

Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


not to mention...that Bill Clinton in one the worse decisions in this countries history...making ALL military bases " gun free "...zones...

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Sun 11/22/09 07:03 AM






I (and I'm sure people will disagree) would like to dig up and use DNA from both Regan and Goldwater and splice it together and clone Barry Regan and put him in the White House.


Nope.
I'm an Independent.
Always have been. Always will be.

As an unaffiliated and unbiased participant in every election since 1978, I can honestly say it is time for the Republican Party to cease as a major political Party in America.

They are corrupt to the core and bent on securing power despite America's best interests or the wishes of it's people.
They have no ethics.


I agree. I am unaffiliated so I am watching all parties. There is a problem in the Republican party and it is bringing this country down.


you're kidding me right ?...laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 11/22/09 06:59 AM

Rasmussen also predicted Mccain to win, predicted Bush 1 to win his re election. Polls also had Mondell and Dole winning. Bottom line, Polls mean nothing.


I don't know what Rasmussen poll you were following...but...he had it exactly right...Obama by 6 points...as a matter af fact...he hangs his hat on that whenever he appears on any talk show...

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Sat 11/21/09 11:08 AM


It's about a behavior that the church doesn't condone...last time I looked...same sex marriage...when put to a vote by the people...is 0-31...it's pretty obvious that a majority of Americans don't condone it either...


Here is more

Fifty-four percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Monday say marriages between gay or lesbian couples should not be recognized as valid, with 44 percent suggesting they should be considered legal.

But among those 18 to 34 years old, 58 percent said same-sex marriages should be legal. That number drops to 42 percent among respondents aged 35 to 49, and to 41 percent for those aged 50 to 64. Only 24 percent of Americans 65 and older support recognizing same-sex marriages, according to the poll.



It is still a marginal majority opposing.Im sure it will eventually pass(modern Babylon) but hopefully not before my daughter is grown and had a chance to establish her own moral foundation. It is interesting to note though the difference in perceptin based upon age. Seesms like those most likely to have had SUCCESSFUL long term relationships,,our elders, oppose changing the foundation of marriage. Those who have more modern lives and are more likely to see sex as an activity of 'dating' seem less concerned with how marriage is defined. Please pay special attention to my use of the word SEEM, it implies that this is my personal observation and not fact.


I agree...well said...in time I believe it will be legal in all 50 states...just not at this time...

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Sat 11/21/09 10:55 AM


It's about a behavior that the church doesn't condone...last time I looked...same sex marriage...when put to a vote by the people...is 0-31...it's prety obvious that a majority of Americans don't condone it either...


Not true.


Maine voters reject gay marriage -- and the vote wasn't all that close, either. From the NYT:

In a stinging setback for the national gay-rights movement, Maine voters narrowly decided to repeal the state's new law allowing same-sex marriage.
With 87 percent of precincts reporting early this morning, 53 percent of voters had approved the repeal, ending an expensive and emotional fight that was closely watched around the country as a referendum on the national gay-marriage movement. Polls had suggested a much closer race.

With the repeal, Maine became the 31st state to reject same-sex marriage at the ballot box. Five other states - Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, New Hampshire and Vermont - have legalized same-sex marriage, but only through court rulings and legislative action.



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Sat 11/21/09 10:48 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sat 11/21/09 10:51 AM
It's about a behavior that the church doesn't condone...last time I looked...same sex marriage...when put to a vote by the people...is 0-31...it's pretty obvious that a majority of Americans don't condone it either...

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Sat 11/21/09 09:40 AM

If she's the best the Republicans have they must be really, really, really desperate.
Oh yeah, that's right, they are.


how's that Hope and Change workin' for ya'...laugh ...how can you point the finger at anyone...your guy has been a complete disaster...a 100% total failure...an embarrassment...a joke...your arguements...have no credibility...this guy is the worst president we've ever had...the damage that he has inflicted on this great country is unspeakable...so please...give it a rest and head back for the tall grass...waving

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Fri 11/20/09 08:21 PM
Zogby has his approvals at 46%....

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Fri 11/20/09 10:59 AM
I am not a liberal so what are you proving here?.....laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

your actions speak louder then words...your defense of Barry...says otherwise...:smile:

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Fri 11/20/09 10:34 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Fri 11/20/09 10:37 AM






I worked for the Dept. of Human Services for years and determined who was eligible for all the programs offered. They are not eligible for welfare and foodstamps.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/applicant_recipients/eligibility.htm#immigrant

http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/DHHS/DFA/LIBRARY/Fact+Sheet/required-verification.htm



Then explain to me why the mexicans who live next door do, since I know for a FACT that they do, along with a few other crimes. Thank goodness the authorities are finally catching up with these ones. The neighbors got the underground railroad they were running shut down, but now the city is addressing all the other violations. But yeah, have been on food stamps for YEARS, along with a few other programs, and their's is the ONLY kid that has the school bus coming literally to their front door. ALL the other kids have to walk. Found that a bit over the top.



Prove they get foodstamps.


Isn't it getting difficult to come on here day after day after day...defending Barry and his leftist agenda ?...you're a lone wolf...he's done !!...Thomas Jefferson said it best...Tyranny is when the people fear government...Liberty is when the government fears the people...drinker



Considering there are more like me and less like you, no I have no problems.

My life is great. Thanks


more like you where ?...surely not in the good old USA...most Americans live their lives as Conservatives...40% call themselves Conservative...20% call themselves Liberal...:smile:

June 15, 2009
“Conservatives” Are Single-Largest Ideological GroupPercentage of “liberals” higher this decade than in early ’90sby Lydia SaadPRINCETON, NJ -- Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.

These annual figures are based on multiple national Gallup surveys conducted each year, in some cases encompassing more than 40,000 interviews. The 2009 data are based on 10 separate surveys conducted from January through May. Thus, the margins of error around each year's figures are quite small, and changes of only two percentage points are statistically significant.

To measure political ideology, Gallup asks Americans to say whether their political views are very conservative, conservative, moderate, liberal, or very liberal. As has been the case each year since 1992, very few Americans define themselves at the extremes of the political spectrum. Just 9% call themselves "very conservative" and 5% "very liberal." The vast majority of self-described liberals and conservatives identify with the unmodified form of their chosen label.

Party-Based Ideology

There is an important distinction in the respective ideological compositions of the Republican and Democratic Parties. While a solid majority of Republicans are on the same page -- 73% call themselves conservative -- Democrats are more of a mixture. The major division among Democrats is between self-defined moderates (40%) and liberals (38%). However, an additional 22% of Democrats consider themselves conservative, much higher than the 3% of Republicans identifying as liberal.

True to their nonpartisan tendencies, close to half of political independents -- 45% -- describe their political views as "moderate." Among the rest, the balance of views is tilted more heavily to the right than to the left: 34% are conservative, while 20% are liberal.

Gallup trends show a slight increase since 2008 in the percentages of all three party groups calling themselves "conservative," which accounts for the three percentage-point increase among the public at large.

Thus far in 2009, Gallup has found an average of 36% of Americans considering themselves Democratic, 28% Republican, and 37% independent. When independents are pressed to say which party they lean toward, 51% of Americans identify as Democrats, 39% as Republicans, and only 9% as pure independents.

Ideological tendencies by leaned party affiliation are very similar to those of straight partisan groups. However, it is worth noting the views of pure independents -- a group usually too small to analyze in individual surveys but potentially important in deciding elections. Exactly half of pure independents describe their views as moderate, 30% say they are conservative, and 17% liberal.

As reported last week on Gallup.com, women are more likely than men to be Democratic in their political orientation. Along the same lines, women are more likely than men to be ideologically "moderate" and "liberal," and less likely to be "conservative."

Still, conservatism outweighs liberalism among both genders.

The pattern is strikingly different on the basis of age, and this could have important political implications in the years ahead. Whereas middle-aged and older Americans lean conservative (vs. liberal) in their politics by at least 2 to 1, adults aged 18 to 29 are just as likely to say their political views are liberal (31%) as to say they are conservative (30%).

Future Gallup analysis will look at the changes in the political ideology of different age cohorts over time, to see whether young adults in the past have started out more liberal than they wound up in their later years.

Bottom Line

Although the terms may mean different things to different people, Americans readily peg themselves, politically, into one of five categories along the conservative-to-liberal spectrum. At present, large minorities describe their views as either moderate or conservative -- with conservatives the larger group -- whereas only about one in five consider themselves liberal.

While these figures have shown little change over the past decade, the nation appears to be slightly more polarized than it was in the early 1990s. Compared with the 1992-1994 period, the percentage of moderates has declined from 42% to 35%, while the percentages of conservatives and liberals are up slightly -- from 38% to 40% for conservatives and a larger 17% to 21% movement for liberals.

Survey Methods

Results are based on aggregated Gallup Poll surveys of approximately 1,000 national adults, aged 18 and older, interviewed by telephone. Sample sizes for the annual compilations range from approximately 10,000 to approximately 40,000. For these results, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±1 percentage point.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.
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Fri 11/20/09 10:01 AM




I worked for the Dept. of Human Services for years and determined who was eligible for all the programs offered. They are not eligible for welfare and foodstamps.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/applicant_recipients/eligibility.htm#immigrant

http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/DHHS/DFA/LIBRARY/Fact+Sheet/required-verification.htm



Then explain to me why the mexicans who live next door do, since I know for a FACT that they do, along with a few other crimes. Thank goodness the authorities are finally catching up with these ones. The neighbors got the underground railroad they were running shut down, but now the city is addressing all the other violations. But yeah, have been on food stamps for YEARS, along with a few other programs, and their's is the ONLY kid that has the school bus coming literally to their front door. ALL the other kids have to walk. Found that a bit over the top.



Prove they get foodstamps.


Isn't it getting difficult to come on here day after day after day...defending Barry and his leftist agenda ?...you're a lone wolf...he's done !!...Thomas Jefferson said it best...Tyranny is when the people fear government...Liberty is when the government fears the people...drinker

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Wed 11/04/09 09:56 PM
Edited by Giocamo on Wed 11/04/09 10:16 PM
it is and will always be about behavior...

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Wed 11/04/09 08:06 PM

:smile: "The people" are often wrong.:smile:


31 for 31...

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Wed 11/04/09 02:52 PM

Haha, what a joke, honoring an adulterer and a liar who at the time was a President.

Way ta go!
laugh rofl laugh

They can have him!:wink:




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