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Sun 01/04/09 05:31 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 01/04/09 05:44 AM
Wars need winning sometimes for survival. When a people are so barbaric that all they want to do is kill, it's time to call a spade & spade.

There is no reason for terrorist activity, especially since Hamas has been sending in rockets for months. No nation should have to put up with barbaristic people. Hamas & all those who voted them in are without excuse. There is no such thing as innocent civilians in that neck of the woods.

How about holding their feet to the fire? Wouldn't that be refreshing but I must say that's what happens when the line of decency get blurred.

There is alot of anti-Semitism on these boards along with anti-Americanism. CHAOS! That's a self destruction that can blow up civility everywhere. Those who talk the talk are dealing in treachery. That why they are called the COUNTER culture!

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Sun 01/04/09 05:19 AM



flowerforyou cutemom :wink:

the scary thing is the reason why they persist.

the reason is not occupation - israel ldeft Gaza in 2005.
the reason is not blockade - israel permits non-military
flow of products and humanitarian aid.

the reason is hatred and islamic fundamentalism.
irrational religious jihad against israel.

see the interesting hunt report "escape from hamas"
that aired this evening on Fox. yeah, i know, FOX nowaylaugh

but the report was excellent anyway. :laugh
totally blows the cover of hamas by one of it's former
youth leaders mossab hassan yousef

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZjGJibEBWI


LMAO!!
Rerun!
I wonder why he would betray his comrades and end up as a comentator on FOX?



Maybe because his eyes were opened to the truth. You know? Those darn facts just seem to get in the way. :wink:

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Sat 01/03/09 02:54 PM

I don't know about all that but I am getting a very strong "quickening" in my heart from the Holy Spirit to keep my lamps filled. I'm so so so so happy that my house is built upon the Rock.:smile:


Thank you Jesus.flowerforyou


Yes & you do it nicely too. :smile: flowerforyou
Thanks for sharing the attitude of gratitude.

Happy New Year!

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Sat 01/03/09 01:52 PM



Yes it's like beating a dead horse... LOL

They just want to squash any free speech of those they disagree with is all.


"They"..."them"..."Those"...


Bwah hahahahahah!!!!yep! uh huh! hmmmm...


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


I notice how nasty you get too at anything you don't like to hear. More smallmindedness??? laugh I really don't expect much more from some around here.

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Sat 01/03/09 01:46 PM
If you like to read try reading this book...

From Beruit to Jerusalem
author T. Freidman

It really explains the dilemma wonderfully, it will keep your attention too. :smile:

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Sat 01/03/09 01:38 PM

whoa

Here is the difference between the Palestinian
and Israeli approach.

1. Palestinians purposely shoot missiles at civilians
to try to maximize civilian Israeli casualties.

2. Israel only attacks military targets after months
of harrassment and they warn the neighboring civilians
with phone calls and leaflets to leave areas where
military operations are planned in advance.

one is murder and the other is justified self-defense
see if you can figure out which is which...

laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJxAHBICrw




Expect some to know the difference????
Now you ar really asking too much. LOL

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Sat 01/03/09 01:31 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 01/03/09 01:41 PM


500 years prior to WWI the ME, including Palestine, was part of the Ottoman Empire.
With a promise of liberation, the Arabs of the region, who had been discriminated against by the Turks helped the allies defeat the Ottomans.
This led to Arab Nationalism and the creation of many of the States we know today.
Still no Israel, but the British held onto Palestine, called British Palestine. They had already began the Zionist movement, but it really didn't gain momentum until after WWII.
Before this all happened there were only a handful of Jews in the whole ME. The Romans had defeated them years before and most left the ME resettling in Europe!
Next came a UN mandate to give 70% of Palestine for the formation of a Jewish State to 30% of the population. The other 70% of the population, Arabs (now Palestinians) were to get only 30% of the land. Because this was in reality theft the Arabs didn't think it was fair. Because the Jewish 70% didn't include Jerusalem they didn't agree with it. They wanted it all. They decided to heck with the UN and dispatched their terrorist groups to begin killing (bombs) British soldiers and still their weapons from the British Armories!
This violence escalated to attacks on Hotels, crowded outdoor markets, and assassinations of British dignitaries.
Before the UN mandate could take place the Jews declared independence and started the State of Israel! The Arabs retaliated and the Jewish terrorists groups began to exterminate whole Palestinians villages, (women, men, and children) as a weapon of war! The neighboring Arab States, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, came to their aide but with the help of the US and Britain the Jews beat back their Armies and in the process took almost all of the land for themselves, and much of their neighbors land. They forced the Palestinians into narrow patches of land. (Gaza, and the Sinai Peninsula)

Now they lock them in and bomb the **** out of them with American weapons!
accurate great post, but you forgot to mention the blockade of many esential items to Gaza and that has led to the current slaughter



People forget that if the Arabs didn't attack in the first place Israel would never had to push them back as far as they did. They have been attacking Israel ever since.

Their hatred toward Israel & anyone who does not practice their brand of fanatical religion that says to kill all who aren't like them is the real cause for all the conflict in the mid east. That sort of thinking is stone age thinking & if people are suppose to be a melting pot then why can't they just share all the land in the mid east regardless of nationality, religion etc?

For real peace the mid easterners have to change their own thinking & get back to loving life & living again instead of the brainwashing that says hate everyone who isn't like us & bomb them while your at it. They don't even get along with eachother, why would they get along with anyone else?????

I say they are the stain on all nations because of their blind hatred & their thrist for blood. Until that is resolved nothing will be resolved & israel has the right to protect herself from their hate. Irrational hate that is. There are no excuses for terrorist activities. NONE!!!!

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Sat 01/03/09 01:13 PM




Well then what are you arguing exactly? Yes he wanted a SEPARATION of Church and state. I feel that is a wonderful idea and it is absolutely imperative to protect all of our rights jointly. Christians, atheist, all. What is you point of contention exactly? huh


I'm not really arguing...the point I'm trying to make is that when the courts say no to Christmas trees in the public square...or...no to Nativity scenes in the public square...they're doing exactly what Jefferson said not to do...was getting the government involved...if you read your last post...when he says...wall of separation ...he means...keep religion and government separate...which we are NOT doing...when the courts inject their decisions...all religions and all gods should be worshiped in the public square...not...NO religion...no Gods...


That sounds rather like a Christian wanting to FORCE his beliefs on others which is EXACTLY what Jefferson wanted to prevent. We know he was a Deist and not a Christian. Few can successfully downplay that point anymore. The court NEVER said NO to Christmas. They said no to you Christians pushing your beliefs down the throats of our nations' citizens that dont BUY INTO THE CHRIST THING. They never said no to Christmas. They said no to SIGNAGE in thoroughfares that are public access to EVERYONE. "Happy Holidays" is a term that is all inclusive and does not favor one spirituality over another. frustrated



how letting ALL religions and ALL gods be worshipped is forcing Christian beliefs on people is beyond me...I give up...have a great day...



Yes it's like beating a dead horse... LOL

They just want to squash any free speech of those they disagree with is all.

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Sat 01/03/09 09:49 AM


Of course some posters here have never known a liberal to win an argument.

Know why?

Because when the liberal presents a reasoned fact based secular argument in support of their position said poster point their fingers and loudly call names refusing to listen to any of it.

Take off the blinders!

Free your mind!





I think what happens is...to a Conservative...there is no ground for Liberals to stand on in regards to the religious argument...the reason they have so called blinders on is...it's pretty difficult to take the Left serious...when they belive in abortion...for that matter most of their social positions...as for freeing the mind ?...they're absolutely happy...where their mind is at...I tried to explain before...lots of people are guided through life by the word of God...and...I disagree with you...in that they are forcing their beliefs on you...they're preaching...and...quoting scripture...and...you're rejecting it...nothing wrong with that !...



Actually I like things the way they should be...it's the libs who hide behind the live & let live song all while going to court to make illegal things legal. So much for protections for people...they want their Maypo after all. Right?

They know they would never get private funding for their causes so they used govt. taxes to circumvent the goodness of our nation. They create govt. dependancy & want everyone to pay for it too. Talk about living on the plantation???? LOL That's the LIB mentality in the nutshell. Their eutopia is to make everything & everyone the same. Even if it means taking away religious freedoms as well as free speech from those who disagree or hold them accountable.

The LIB mentality is to tie their opponents hands behind their back, blindfold them & gag them & call it a fair fight. You'll find out...soon.

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Sat 01/03/09 09:41 AM
Yes well we can all use some of that... just reading some of the garbage written here is like...WHEW! You need a bath.


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Sat 01/03/09 09:37 AM



Since I am an atheist, I will not try to "explain" any part of the bible. In my own opinion, either the bible is a holy book, and every passage is supposed to be taken literally, or you're not supposed to take any of it literally, in which case it would be a great work of fiction, given the amount of people that believe it.
When it comes to faith it's not about quantity it's about quality.


That is missing my point, that being, either every word needs to be taken literally, or none of them should be. If the book is supposed to be "holy" then either it's all holy, or none of it is. There should be no picking and choosing.




That is a very limited view of God when there is also His very nature toward us of love & great helps & wonders. I am so sorry that some here are so stuck in their dogma they miss the greater glory.

I won't fight with that sort of small mindedness. I think you are stuck in your own persecution when you refuse to see it God's way.


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Sat 01/03/09 09:34 AM





True freedom will come when the curse of sin is lifted once & for all & God restores everything back to what it was before the fall.


"Quikstepper"are you referring to when everyone was folicking around the garden of eden in the nude ...I always knew you have a little devil in you


Yep, sounds like she is talking about fairy land were you can even have sex with animals, and everyone is the same sex, it's all good in fairy land.



Only in a perverted mind would something this sick come from.

You prove us right everytime...THANKS! laugh laugh laugh


You are the one who brought it up. laugh You don't know what that world was like. No knowledge of good and evil means anything at all is perfectly normal.




More twisted logic? laugh laugh laugh

You would be sad if you weren't so funny. LOL

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Sat 01/03/09 09:26 AM

Since I am an atheist, I will not try to "explain" any part of the bible. In my own opinion, either the bible is a holy book, and every passage is supposed to be taken literally, or you're not supposed to take any of it literally, in which case it would be a great work of fiction, given the amount of people that believe it.



When it comes to faith it's not about quantity it's about quality.


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Sat 01/03/09 09:22 AM



True freedom will come when the curse of sin is lifted once & for all & God restores everything back to what it was before the fall.


"Quikstepper"are you referring to when everyone was folicking around the garden of eden in the nude ...I always knew you have a little devil in you


Yep, sounds like she is talking about fairy land were you can even have sex with animals, and everyone is the same sex, it's all good in fairy land.



Only in a perverted mind would something this sick come from.

You prove us right everytime...THANKS! laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 01/03/09 09:18 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 01/03/09 09:18 AM






That sounds like an awful lot of Christian Right rationalization going on. Im sticking with Jefferson's actual words. I believe he said what he meant and meant what he said You are simply attempting to "redefine terms" like you folks very often do with the bible itself.


redifine terms ?...the Supreme Court did that...not me...

the Supreme Court finally clarified what Jefferson truly meant in Lynch vs. Donnelly (1984) when they said that the phrase “separation of church and state” is nothing more than the opinion of Thomas Jefferson, a “euphemism” as they put it, not Constitutional law.



This wording of the original was several times upheld by the Supreme Court as an accurate description of the Establishment Clause: Reynolds (98 US at 164, 1879); Everson (330 US at 59, 1947); McCollum (333 US at 232, 1948)



prior to 1984...it was finally rectified...in 1984...


I find it very difficult to believe that someone can "clarify what one meant" when the person, who's words are getting "clarified" has died.



exactly !!...they " clearified "...in 1947...and...they " clearified "...in 1984...whose to say which decision is right or wrong...



Well actually the founders did not take sides...that was the point for those who actually believe in free speech for ALL. Right? :wink: laugh :wink:

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Sat 01/03/09 09:13 AM


The only thing sad about atheists is that they feel in order to give themselves legitimacy they have to tear down other people's faith to do so...in the courts.

Maybe that's why they are despised & the only reason. As far as those laws go, if they were enforced atheists would be getting arrested or their cases thrown out, to say the least.

I don't feel sorry for people who want to rain on someone else's parade to promote their own self agrandizement.

How about they just live & let live...like the libs always say?


Quick,

I have noticed that you use a lot of labels for groups of people and you even abbreviate them. I have become interested in labels after hearing LonelyWalker use a couple of his.

Libs: (I am assuming you mean liberals here) Got any more you can share?



I notice that some just want to argue...don't pull me into that. I'm not buying it.

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Sat 01/03/09 09:11 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 01/03/09 09:14 AM

In his letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, President Jefferson said he believed there was a "wall of separation" in the Constitution that was designed to keep the government from interfering in the affairs of the church, not a wall to keep free speech out of the public arena. Thankfully, the Supreme Court finally clarified what Jefferson truly meant in Lynch vs. Donnelly (1984) when they said that the phrase “separation of church and state” is nothing more than the opinion of Thomas Jefferson, a “euphemism” as they put it, not Constitutional law.




Yes & it was always that way until the psuedo revisionist lies... I think we got time on our side. They just want to pervert anything good, including the truth...that's why they are all COUNTER our culture.

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Sat 01/03/09 09:09 AM


Yep I agree live and let live.

Practice your religion in your church, your home and on private property.

Allow the rest of us to do the same and do not inflict the standards created from your mythology on others.




actually...the founding Fathers wanted ALL religion and beliefs to be practiced in the " public " square...somehow...the whole " wall of separation "...or..." separation of Church and State "...got hijacked by a liberal Supreme Court in 1947...Justice Hugo Black an FDR appointee...led the charge...there is NO clause or line in the constitution that says " separation of Church and State "...there is a clause that says " Freedom of Religion "...




Correct Gio... unless you buy into the revisionist lies about it, that is. :wink:

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Sat 01/03/09 09:08 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 01/03/09 09:16 AM

As far as those laws go, if they were enforced atheists would be getting arrested or their cases thrown out, to say the least.


Please, explain further.



Well the atheists always want to do away with anything in the public sq. that speaks of God. Like the nativity scene that represents Christmas.

Things like that. If you follow their line of thought right on this thread you will see they want to squelch the voice of Christians. So much for freedom of speech for anyone doesn't agree with the LIB mantras.

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Sat 01/03/09 09:07 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 01/03/09 09:19 AM

Yep I agree live and let live.

Practice your religion in your church, your home and on private property.

Allow the rest of us to do the same and do not inflict the standards created from your mythology on others.





This is a bigoted statement all right.

Just goes to show what a bunch of hyprocrites post here.

True colors & all that...

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