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If a man break into my house with intent to murder my child or woman... I will kill him if I must to stop him. There is most definately a different meaning in the words murder and kill. Or would you consider what I did 'murder' and so punish me? CoyboyGH said: Would be murder. In this way how you gonna name that act when God has drown all ppl including babies in that ? CoyboyGH said: No, a judgement is not murder. If a judgement was murder, there would be no such thing as the death penalty. For if a judge sentenced someone to death, the judge and the executioner(s) would then also have to be sentenced with murder. That is why we are not to murder, for Jesus is the judge, not us. Then the father killing his child by his judgement will be innocent , based on your claim ??? |
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If a man break into my house with intent to murder my child or woman... I will kill him if I must to stop him. There is most definately a different meaning in the words murder and kill. Or would you consider what I did 'murder' and so punish me? CoyboyGH said: Would be murder. In this way how you gonna name that act when God has drown all ppl including babies in that ? No, a judgement is not murder. If a judgement was murder, there would be no such thing as the death penalty. For if a judge sentenced someone to death, the judge and the executioner(s) would then also have to be sentenced with murder. That is why we are not to murder, for Jesus is the judge, not us. Then the father killing his child by his judgement will be innocent , based on your claim ??? |
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If a man break into my house with intent to murder my child or woman... I will kill him if I must to stop him. There is most definately a different meaning in the words murder and kill. Or would you consider what I did 'murder' and so punish me? CoyboyGH said: Would be murder. In this way how you gonna name that act when God has drown all ppl including babies in that ? |
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Didn't insist on anything. Just how do YOU know it's been altered? What evidence do you have to support such a claim. An no, because some history channel said so doesn't work. CowboyGH ,in my case - education and much reading 
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ALL Christians Believe God is ONE ENTITY!!! (except for cults, who don't believe). Even all mainline denominations agree on this basic simple truth of the gospel..that God is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING!!!!!!! I couldn't care less what "all christians" believe. I don't believe purely what "Christians" believe. "Christian" is man made. I care about what the scriptures say, not what some religion says. And the scriptures say specifically separate God the father from God the son all the way back to Genesis, thus showing two separate ENTITIES. Are you sure you don't read some Hollywood's scenario of "Holy scriptures' by Steven Spielberg ? 
And to be correct in what I ask you may you tell us what kind or the name of scriptures you read ?? 
lol yeah I'm sure I don't read anything from Steven. I read the Holy Bible and it's scriptures. I usually go with King James, but I most always cross reference mongst the different interpretations with one another. I think that you start to confuse totally the religion . 
More and more Jesus starts to appear like some character of cartoon net and with bible interpretation for the beginners of courses "How to be a writer" ...
Pls try to read the bible first ...or soon Jesus gonna send us here , in the forums, hell fire reading your free translations and hypothesis . Are you sure Dan Brawn didn't call you ..lol
Many have said there were errors, for have shown the errors and succeeded. So when you just say there's errors without showing the error, your comments are mute and in vein, for they are just an accusation with nothing to back the statement in any way. The errors came from later translation of bible and after editing it in purpose to serve the needs of churches after Nicaea, 321-325 . Many of the scriptures have been changed or added new . That editing was unacceptable for east part of Christians /latter Orthodox Greek church/ who appealed for keeping the original translation /version of bible , and also unacceptable for the west Christians /latter Catholics / insisted for more powerful and strong religious scriptures in it. Latter many errors come out of that 'new edition' of the bible and in many places there are contradictions in facts , even in gospels describe the same event CowboyGH , no one can talks, interprets and analyzes in the right way something which he didn't read or read here-there and most of the time reads someone's comments . To discuss something we need knowledge at least abt the subject we discuss on ... Other way that is bla bla or to seek for attention. Or .... call Dan Brown telling him your version ..
Well first off, what you are claiming I said in this post, I did not say. CowboyGH if you read again your 'errors' comment above mine you gonna understand what and why I wrote that .. Secondly how do you know it was altered? Changed? Added to? Or anything else? Can you and have you read the original hebrew version of the scriptures? I hope you didn't insist/imagine that ppl have to attend to the historical events and then to talk abt it ... CowboyGH , how ppl know abt it: university - education ; reading / watching documentary stuff; using computers to get more information ; profession ; library /home , public , institutions etc./ and many others resources ... CowboyGH said : Because from my research, it is very close to the original. hahhaaha you are a funny guy ... omg nooooooooo comment 
You claimed I said that following quote, which I did not say. I haven't believe in my eyes too but - fact: page29,2nd post from down 
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ALL Christians Believe God is ONE ENTITY!!! (except for cults, who don't believe). Even all mainline denominations agree on this basic simple truth of the gospel..that God is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING!!!!!!! I couldn't care less what "all christians" believe. I don't believe purely what "Christians" believe. "Christian" is man made. I care about what the scriptures say, not what some religion says. And the scriptures say specifically separate God the father from God the son all the way back to Genesis, thus showing two separate ENTITIES. Are you sure you don't read some Hollywood's scenario of "Holy scriptures' by Steven Spielberg ?
And to be correct in what I ask you may you tell us what kind or the name of scriptures you read ??
lol yeah I'm sure I don't read anything from Steven. I read the Holy Bible and it's scriptures. I usually go with King James, but I most always cross reference mongst the different interpretations with one another. I think that you start to confuse totally the religion .
More and more Jesus starts to appear like some character of cartoon net and with bible interpretation for the beginners of courses "How to be a writer" ...
Pls try to read the bible first ...or soon Jesus gonna send us here , in the forums, hell fire reading your free translations and hypothesis . Are you sure Dan Brawn didn't call you ..lol
Many have said there were errors, for have shown the errors and succeeded. So when you just say there's errors without showing the error, your comments are mute and in vein, for they are just an accusation with nothing to back the statement in any way. The errors came from later translation of bible and after editing it in purpose to serve the needs of churches after Nicaea, 321-325 . Many of the scriptures have been changed or added new . That editing was unacceptable for east part of Christians /latter Orthodox Greek church/ who appealed for keeping the original translation /version of bible , and also unacceptable for the west Christians /latter Catholics / insisted for more powerful and strong religious scriptures in it. Latter many errors come out of that 'new edition' of the bible and in many places there are contradictions in facts , even in gospels describe the same event CowboyGH , no one can talks, interprets and analyzes in the right way something which he didn't read or read here-there and most of the time reads someone's comments . To discuss something we need knowledge at least abt the subject we discuss on ... Other way that is bla bla or to seek for attention. Or .... call Dan Brown telling him your version ..
Well first off, what you are claiming I said in this post, I did not say. CowboyGH if you read again your 'errors' comment above mine you gonna understand what and why I wrote that .. Secondly how do you know it was altered? Changed? Added to? Or anything else? Can you and have you read the original hebrew version of the scriptures? I hope you didn't insist/imagine that ppl have to attend to the historical events and then to talk abt it ... CowboyGH , how ppl know abt it: university - education ; reading / watching documentary stuff; using computers to get more information ; profession ; library /home , public , institutions etc./ and many others resources ... CowboyGH said : Because from my research, it is very close to the original. hahhaaha you are a funny guy ... omg nooooooooo comment
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ALL Christians Believe God is ONE ENTITY!!! (except for cults, who don't believe). Even all mainline denominations agree on this basic simple truth of the gospel..that God is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING!!!!!!! I couldn't care less what "all christians" believe. I don't believe purely what "Christians" believe. "Christian" is man made. I care about what the scriptures say, not what some religion says. And the scriptures say specifically separate God the father from God the son all the way back to Genesis, thus showing two separate ENTITIES. Are you sure you don't read some Hollywood's scenario of "Holy scriptures' by Steven Spielberg ?
And to be correct in what I ask you may you tell us what kind or the name of scriptures you read ??
lol yeah I'm sure I don't read anything from Steven. I read the Holy Bible and it's scriptures. I usually go with King James, but I most always cross reference mongst the different interpretations with one another. I think that you start to confuse totally the religion .
More and more Jesus starts to appear like some character of cartoon net and with bible interpretation for the beginners of courses "How to be a writer" ...
Pls try to read the bible first ...or soon Jesus gonna send us here , in the forums, hell fire reading your free translations and hypothesis . Are you sure Dan Brawn didn't call you ..lol
Many have said there were errors, for have shown the errors and succeeded. So when you just say there's errors without showing the error, your comments are mute and in vein, for they are just an accusation with nothing to back the statement in any way. The errors came from later translation of bible and after editing it in purpose to serve the needs of churches after Nicaea, 321-325 . Many of the scriptures have been changed or added new . That editing was unacceptable for east part of Christians /latter Orthodox Greek church/ who appealed for keeping the original translation /version of bible , and also unacceptable for the west Christians /latter Catholics / insisted for more powerful and strong religious scriptures in it. Latter many errors come out of that 'new edition' of the bible and in many places there are contradictions in facts , even in gospels describe the same event CowboyGH , no one can talks, interprets and analyzes in the right way something which he didn't read or read here-there and most of the time reads someone's comments . To discuss something we need knowledge at least abt the subject we discuss on ... Other way that is bla bla or to seek for attention. Or .... call Dan Brown telling him your version ..
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ALL Christians Believe God is ONE ENTITY!!! (except for cults, who don't believe). Even all mainline denominations agree on this basic simple truth of the gospel..that God is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING!!!!!!! I couldn't care less what "all christians" believe. I don't believe purely what "Christians" believe. "Christian" is man made. I care about what the scriptures say, not what some religion says. And the scriptures say specifically separate God the father from God the son all the way back to Genesis, thus showing two separate ENTITIES. Are you sure you don't read some Hollywood's scenario of "Holy scriptures' by Steven Spielberg ?
And to be correct in what I ask you may you tell us what kind or the name of scriptures you read ??
lol yeah I'm sure I don't read anything from Steven. I read the Holy Bible and it's scriptures. I usually go with King James, but I most always cross reference mongst the different interpretations with one another. I think that you start to confuse totally the religion .
More and more Jesus starts to appear like some character of cartoon net and with bible interpretation for the beginners of courses "How to be a writer" ...
Pls try to read the bible first ...or soon Jesus gonna send us here , in the forums, hell fire reading your free translations and hypothesis . Are you sure Dan Brawn didn't call you ..lol
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chocolina
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CowboyGH
ALL Christians Believe God is ONE ENTITY!!! (except for cults, who don't believe). Even all mainline denominations agree on this basic simple truth of the gospel..that God is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING!!!!!!! I couldn't care less what "all christians" believe. I don't believe purely what "Christians" believe. "Christian" is man made. I care about what the scriptures say, not what some religion says. And the scriptures say specifically separate God the father from God the son all the way back to Genesis, thus showing two separate ENTITIES. Are you sure you don't read some Hollywood's scenario of "Holy scriptures' by Steven Spielberg ?
And to be correct in what I ask you may you tell us what kind or the name of scriptures you read ??
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As you see not God but ppl /church, synagogue, mosque / according their needs order ppl to kill ppl … chocolina....believers have Faith that the voices that they hear which are telling them to kill is the voice of God As I know that kind voices are usually sign to visit a doc .. And who claim that God gives order to kill ppl or do this or that is probably more Satan's follower than God's one Funches, God is not cruel or gives orders or talk whatever to ppl .. God is beyond ppl's imaginations and delusions according to the story of Abraham God order people to kill....he even ask women to have his babies As you said alone that is a bible story and God has nothing to do with it to non-believers it's only a bible story ...but to believers it's the true word of their God ... But the matter here is to show me where God ordered ppl to kill ppl /please not bible stories / |
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As you see not God but ppl /church, synagogue, mosque / according their needs order ppl to kill ppl … chocolina....believers have Faith that the voices that they hear which are telling them to kill is the voice of God As I know that kind voices are usually sign to visit a doc .. And who claim that God gives order to kill ppl or do this or that is probably more Satan's follower than God's one Funches, God is not cruel or gives orders or talk whatever to ppl .. God is beyond ppl's imaginations and delusions according to the story of Abraham God order people to kill....he even ask women to have his babies As you said alone that is a bible story and God has nothing to do with it |
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As you see not God but ppl /church, synagogue, mosque / according their needs order ppl to kill ppl … chocolina....believers have Faith that the voices that they hear which are telling them to kill is the voice of God As I know that kind voices are usually sign to visit a doc .. And who claim that God gives order to kill ppl or do this or that is probably more Satan's follower than God's one Funches, God is not cruel or gives orders or talk whatever to ppl .. God is beyond ppl's imaginations and delusions |
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Funches , as I know the holly books are just books written by different ppl in different times and interpreted in different ways. according to believers these holy books were "inspired by God"....but unfortunetly trying to get an exact meaning as to what "inspired from God" is from a believer would in itself require a miracle "inspired by God" could mean anything from God whispering the words in their ear to possessing their bodies and using their hands to write the content... Thanks Funches , You accepted my idea that books are ‘inspired by God’ but written and interpreted by different ppl . About ‘God inspired ‘ can answer only who claim that . Erm…. Dan Brown also or Paulo Coelho as well Each book is a moral codes and very precious of each religion but they are just books .. but they are book of Faith...somehow Faith magically change regular books into super books That’s the right and privilege of each religion or belief .. That is according to the choice of members to follow , worship, keep , change etc. them ...I'll reveal how this is accomplish if someone ever reveal what Faith actually is Faith and religion .. that is both side of one process … If one of them miss the process is impossible or going like fake one . God doesn't need books to reveal and display his power or existence generally God use lightning bolts to carve out his words in stone as he done with Moses...but trying to reproduce those stone tablets so that each believer or motel room has one seems a daunting task...and think about Jehovah Witnesses having to carry those stone tablets to people homes that they wake up early in the morning.....this is why believers thought it best to put the stone tablets into paperback format, Funches , Since ppl start to write /pictograms , signs , typing machines , computers etc. / they try to write the best story ever . According the times they live that script , book and whatever there became as popular as they succeed to get ppl’s attention by saying something very interesting , wise , useful , solving their problems etc. . Ancient ppl tried to explain the world according their knowledge and experience …They created book in which they gathered moral laws and rules according their society and its need Thousand years they were the only official books by which church ruled the politics, culture and even economics of countries , finding the golden alibi and reason : God said Today ppl follow these holy books by tradition .. not because they are strictly believers in all stories … God doesn’t need church , pope , preachers ,books etc . to display his power . So how do you know that God order ppl to kill ppl ? because within one of these holy books God tells a believer name Abraham to kill his only son Isaac as a burnt offering As you see not God but ppl /church, synagogue, mosque / according their needs order ppl to kill ppl … |
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Find where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ? God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac as a sacifice Where He said that ? it's a biblical story in which God commands Abraham to kill his son as a burnt offering to him Funches , you said alone - that is a biblical story hence God hasn't anything with it but a man .. So give another try to answer where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ? the biblical stories in the bible are the true word of God? ..... Funches , as I know the holly books are just books written by different ppl in different times and interpreted in different ways. Each book is a moral codes and very precious of each religion but they are just books .. Who claim they are true word of God means they sprad lies because to try to spread moral values in the name of God is one but to write down God's word in it is something else. God doesn't need books to reveal and display his power or existence So how do you know that God order ppl to kill ppl ? |
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Definition of ZEALOUS : marked by fervent partisanship for a person, a cause, or an ideal : filled with or characterized by zeal <zealous missionaries> Definition of JEALOUS 1a : intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b : disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness 2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage 3: vigilant in guarding a possession <new colonies were jealous of their new independence — Scott Buchanan> Chocolina said : And also : Adjective zealous (comparative more zealous, superlative most zealous) Full of zeal; ardent, fervent; exhibiting enthusiasm or strong passion. [quotations ▼] [edit] Synonyms (full of zeal): ardent, eager, enthusiastic, fervent, passionate, zealotic Related terms zealously zealousness jealous zeal zealot Msharmony said: 'related' isnt very specific,, they are spelled similar,, that could make them 'related' Peter_Pan69 said: I think the Hebrew word is: בקנאה = nf. envy, jealousy, jealousness, grudge; fanaticism, zeal Peter_Pan69, Thanks right 
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Definition of ZEALOUS : marked by fervent partisanship for a person, a cause, or an ideal : filled with or characterized by zeal <zealous missionaries> Definition of JEALOUS 1a : intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b : disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness 2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage 3: vigilant in guarding a possession <new colonies were jealous of their new independence — Scott Buchanan> And also : Adjective zealous (comparative more zealous, superlative most zealous) Full of zeal; ardent, fervent; exhibiting enthusiasm or strong passion. [quotations ▼] [edit] Synonyms (full of zeal): ardent, eager, enthusiastic, fervent, passionate, zealotic Related terms zealously zealousness jealous zeal zealot |
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Find where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ? God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac as a sacifice Where He said that ? it's a biblical story in which God commands Abraham to kill his son as a burnt offering to him Funches , you said alone - that is a biblical story hence God hasn't anything with it but a man .. So give another try to answer where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ? the biblical stories in the bible are the true word of God? ..... Who says that the biblical stories in the bible are the true word of God either has no idea abt religion or lies as hell abt it . So how do you know that God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ? |
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repent Heathen I don't think there's enough paint to repaint heaven. Howsabout we just order some ribs and watch Free Willy? Peter_Pan...I think you better stick with Yahweh ...remember he's a Jealous God Ewww, nice! Sooooo, you say he's a Jealous God, do ya? I need to see that verse if you don't mind. I think you mis-read it. It's Zealous, NOT Jealous... in fact Funches is right - zealous may translated like jealous but even if you want to say Zeus he was also damn jealous god. 
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Find where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ? God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac as a sacifice Where He said that ? it's a biblical story in which God commands Abraham to kill his son as a burnt offering to him Funches , you said alone - that is a biblical story hence God hasn't anything with it but a man .. So give another try to answer where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ? |
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Find where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ? God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac as a sacifice Where He said that ? |
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