I don't have a problem with the woman proposing to the guy. That is if he is ready most of the time women are ready long before the men are. Therefore women actually give the men more time to think whether they are ready or not...

I have no problem if the relationship has went on and on and marriage is something the woman really wants. But normally if the relationship has went that long and the man has not proposed it is due too he has no intentions and don't want to marry but to keep things the way they are.

Myself I'm about as open and bold as they come but I'm old school as well... I still believe in men proposing.

But then at my age marriage is not something I feel is a must... but if it happens again it will be due to the guy makes that step...

It'd be hard to deny a woman who is down on her knees.


No matter what, I ain't gittin' hitched again.

I wouldn't say it's wrong for a woman to propose, I just don't think you're going to find many women who are willing to do so.

As long as i get a fkn expensive ring out of it im game.

in no way am i meaning to demean women in any way, but i personally would prefer to do the proposing myself. is that not half the experience? deciding how to do it, picking the ring, getting down on one knee? and on the opposite side, is that not half the surprise for women? not knowing exactly when/how it's going to happen?

i think what makes your proposal out of the norm is that you are taking the traditional sense of the proposal completely out of it. you are taking all the expectation out. in no way am i saying that this is a bad thing, but i dont think that it would be the way i personally would want to approach the situation

I don't know how European women act but this is how one American woman acts.

Twenty years ago, I had dated a gentleman for a long time and I felt ready for marriage. He still had some hesitations primarily due to his career/financial path. So, I went and purchased a wedding set and gave the rings to him one night saying, "Okay, if/when you are ready, just ask. If you are never ready, that's okay too." I had no 'set-in-stone' (no pun intended) expectations and I explained that to him.

He was very appreciative that I had taken the financial burden off of him. He was also grateful that I didn't pop the question because, as he told me, he would have felt completely emasculated. (Women aren't the only ones who believe it's the man who should be doing the asking). Six months later he asked me to marry him.

I realize what I did isn't considered the 'norm' by most people. But, just because I'm a woman doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't propose. Shoot, I probably could have way back then but I was trying to keep in mind what would make his life easier. And, this was the solution. It worked out beautifully. Too bad the marriage didn't work out that way (lol).

Yikes.

Confidence is truly a great quality. If you spend time convincing people what they dont seem to see, it can sorta look like arrogance...even if you arent arrogant.

I think some folks may have responded with that in mind from your list of positive choices. dunno.

I do hope you see, now that you have re activated, that you are welcome here, free to prefer what you prefer.

I hope you are willing to receive the responses you get as:
'the gamet of perspectives out there'.

folks are not compelled to agree, particularly when they are anonymous. That can really be a good thing, unless they start calling you names n junk.

Thanks for posting. I look forward to more. I love different perspectives.

categories and labels
are always open to interpretation
but i find them
boring and assumptuous
why can't we all just
be.

Sorry but your professor shouldn't be teaching. Generalizations and stereotypes are a dangerous thing.

That is like saying all Asian women are submissive. My aunt is full blooded Korean and I guarantee she isn't submissive. I used to live in the Philippines and they aren't all submissive.

As said before, culture, family, peers, etc have a big influence on things. So does a person's mind and heart.

Sorry but anyone closed minded enough to teach stereotypes and generalizations shouldn't be teaching. She needs to think outside the box.

JMO

she may have a degree and is entitled to give her thesis on "home wreckers" but doesn't mean it's fact,people may date within a certain race and draw conclusion about that race,also generalizing certain races there maybe a majority of it thats true but the fact is home wreckers come in all walks of life

Not quite Oceanbluze, this is a great discussion, a fool is a person who lacks judgment and sense, and I am neither nor by participating am I projecting that image.

We are here to discuss all topics of interest, no given answer is foolish and to be quite honest, it is through knowledge that we are given power to understand reason and logic.

Alina

So I've been a member for about all of a half an hour. I've already had three sex offers one from someone who is married. Is this just a big joke? Maybe it was a mistake making an account. . .

I find this very interesting to have found this out tonight. I was just pondering on if our spouse passes away and we can remarry, who then we would be married to in heaven. But this clarifies that question for me. We would be married to neither, for in heaven there is no marriage.

there that is my proof.

plenty.

A friend of mine pretty much had to be told what to do so his wife proposed to him ... sorta ... kinda told him what was gonna happen. It seemed to work out ok.

It's not about being put together by our father. Our father "sanctifies" the marriage and or "recognizes" the marriage. Marriage is there so that we can spend eternity with each other. It's not just about joining together on this earth.

We have to search for this person ourselves. Again God doesn't assemble the two people. It's not like God has us go out on a blind date with each other and we either marry to join together for eternity or loose one another, no it's not that way.

We have to sear and find the person we can be with for eternity ourselves. And God will sanctify the marriage, recognize the marriage so that we may remain married in heaven.

If they are done before the one and only father, then yes they are sanctified.

Sir I am not attacking you im sorry you see my view of points offensive