What is this traditional notion that forbids women from boldly popping a love or marriage proposal to guys? Generally it is believed that the European woman seem to be bolder and freer to express their intentions compared to the American woman. Are women truly free in love matters? I think that women here generally think it is the man's responsibility to pop the question - looks like bondage to me. Your thoughts please.....???

It is unconventional but I don't see anything wrong with it. Except be careful what you wish for......

i dont know know too many women who keep their true feeling inside when it comes to marriage, I do think they will express to their partner, ie: I can totally see us married and having a family, or ie: we've been together for (x) amount of years when are we going to get married. those are the ways women let their men know they are waiting to marry them. As far as getting on one knee and proposing and paying for a ring, thats something that is foreign i think. I dont really know any women who have done that or are willing too.

I've known a few........

on one knee? really? Kudos to them!

Just trying to add to the dialouge........

I'd be willing if I thought I could handle the rejection

...Yes bro, but why "unconventional"? Who set the rules of conventionalism on this matter, especially regarding women. That's the crux of the matter here, and you just identified it. So, why do you think it is unconventional, and should it be so? or do you adovocate a revolution on this?

...well, here's a bold woman. But why focus on the 'rejection" part? How about the converse?

Nice approach in tackling the issue. However, do you think that the use of clues and/or suggestive languages help the matter much more than a direct proposal would?

I can only speak for myself but that would be what my mama taught me. She is a really smart lady........

A friend of mine pretty much had to be told what to do so his wife proposed to him ... sorta ... kinda told him what was gonna happen. It seemed to work out ok.

Awesome....hope the "what to do" wasn't some kind of spell or voodoo...?

My mom proposed to her fiance

It's not wrong for women to propose, it's wrong for them to be out of the kitchen and to have the vote, damn it!







































I kid, I kid ;-)

I don't know how European women act but this is how one American woman acts.

Twenty years ago, I had dated a gentleman for a long time and I felt ready for marriage. He still had some hesitations primarily due to his career/financial path. So, I went and purchased a wedding set and gave the rings to him one night saying, "Okay, if/when you are ready, just ask. If you are never ready, that's okay too." I had no 'set-in-stone' (no pun intended) expectations and I explained that to him.

He was very appreciative that I had taken the financial burden off of him. He was also grateful that I didn't pop the question because, as he told me, he would have felt completely emasculated. (Women aren't the only ones who believe it's the man who should be doing the asking). Six months later he asked me to marry him.

I realize what I did isn't considered the 'norm' by most people. But, just because I'm a woman doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't propose. Shoot, I probably could have way back then but I was trying to keep in mind what would make his life easier. And, this was the solution. It worked out beautifully. Too bad the marriage didn't work out that way (lol).

It definitely helps the matter because it lets the male know they are ready to settle down with them. If the male is not ready and she risks being rejected then he will mostly respond witha "Whoah i dont think Im the marrying type, or I dont think I am ready to get married" However if he says something like "I would love to wake up to every morning, or I would proud to have you as my wife---" there is a chance she may go in for the kill, but like I mentioned, I personally dont know any females that would or have. Newark does though. As I said to him, Kudos.

i think there's honor in a man doing that, and if there exists a man who talks to her father first...wow... nothing wrong with what i would consider true old fashioned romance. but, i realize times they are a changing, so ...let love rule... how ever it goes, but i am still a fan of the fairy tales. i don't think that takes away from being a strong or bold woman. JMHO.