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Sun 03/11/18 01:37 PM

My own opinion basically is if you actually understood the message the guy passed it to you, I think to him he meant more like some Day I’m gonna have a chance at you.


Maybe if he became a nicer person. Haha! He is a bully and mean spirited. So until then...no chance.

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Sun 03/11/18 01:31 PM


My late husband was shy too. You could try what he did to open conversation with me. We were at a laundromat on campus when he approached me to ask to borrow a quarter for his dryer cycle. He didn’t know that I had noticed him making change at the machine for 5 dollars of quarters and only had one load. Haha!

it was a simple approach that didn’t take much effort and allowed me to make an easy retreat after first contact if conversation didn’t appeal to me.

Yes, we began on a lie, but it was innocent enough to be endearing.

Ahhh but maybe he noticed you noticing HIM
and made it easy for you :-)


Funny that I never considered that. Haha! I bet you’re right. laugh

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Sun 03/11/18 11:01 AM

I'm three strikes you're out kinda guy. I'll ask three times. If you turn me down or make up some excuse, I move on. After asking the third time, it starts to get obnoxious. Some men are just stupid that way. They think if they keep trying they will finally break you down. When in reality you're really getting sick of them.


I think this is a sound policy. And I agree it just becomes irritating, even to the point of creepy (like the guy I mention in my original post) unless you’re friendly enough with them for it to be a lighthearted, ongoing joke to let them know from time to time you would still be interested if their circumstances have changed or whatever.

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Sun 03/11/18 10:54 AM

Here's the thing.
I have gone out with some who persuaded me, maybe after
years, but it seems I more admire their steadfastness
than whatever reason I had to say no..make sense?

Rooting for the underdog, probably :-)


I could see doing it if someone was not creepy about it.

The fact that they continue to ask does speak for the sincerity of their motives. Which can be very endearing.

When I was young, the meat counter guy used to make me blush with his joking teases, like, “Are these steaks for me to grill for you on our date this weekend?” I never learned if he was really fishing for a date or just liked to tease his customers. Haha! I was too shy back then to ask.

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Sun 03/11/18 10:42 AM
Edited by JanDarling on Sun 03/11/18 10:46 AM

Have you or would you go out with someone who had to persuaded you to accept a date invitation?

...Yes?
The question isn't all that clear...they persuaded me to accept a date invitation?...if I didn't go on the date, then I'd kinda be an a-hole. Agreeing to something, and then not doing it.

Have or would I go out with someone who had to persuade me to accept a date invitation?
Maybe.
Are they a friend? Do I have an ongoing relationship with them already like coworker?
Are they persuading me to go against my negative feelings for them?
Do they have to persuade me because I don't want to date them?
Or because I feel I shouldn't date them, maybe due to logistics?

Or trying to persuade me to notice feelings that are neutral or hidden but do exist? Like I see them as a friend, and they're trying to persuade me to see them as something more?

Or are they a stranger? Going out with someone new always requires some persuading. It's generally called "hitting on" or "picking up."

would it be worth it to you to persuade someone whose turned you down before?

Depends on how/why they turned me down and what are the available alternatives/situation.

I would try to persuade a hottie who turned me down because they said they were too busy with work.
I wouldn't try to persuade a girl who turned me down because she said she wasn't attracted to me.




Sorry if it’s not well written. I did not mean to imply breaking a date or pulling a no show. Just persistently asking until you or they give in and go out with you.

You bring a lot of good scenarios to the discussion. Those are all very real life situations that would be valid reasons to persuade or be persuaded into trying to date someone you or they might have misgivings about.

Nice!

Part of my answer was erased somehow before posting it. This is the lost portion of my previous answer. I’m not an expert quoter yet. Haha!

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Sun 03/11/18 10:34 AM

I would try to persuade a hottie who turned me down because they said they were too busy with work.
I wouldn't try to persuade a girl who turned me down because she said she wasn't attracted to me.


This brings up a tangent consideration.

When turning someone down for a date, Do you lie or are you truthful?
If you are truthful, are you brutally truthful or do you let them down easy?

When I end a relationship or turn down a date I am truthful.
I also take the time to let them down easy.

I will take the time to tell them that even tho they are not the right one for me, they still have great qualities that someone else might favor.
Then I wish them luck.


I agree with you here Tom. Only honestly will insure excuses are not construed as “maybe another time”. I think pulling out the old “I’m washing my hair on that night too.” is pretty insulting.

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Sun 03/11/18 10:30 AM

Have you or would you go out with someone who had to persuaded you to accept a date invitation?

...Yes?
The question isn't all that clear...they persuaded me to accept a date invitation?...if I didn't go on the date, then I'd kinda be an a-hole. Agreeing to something, and then not doing it.

Have or would I go out with someone who had to persuade me to accept a date invitation?
Maybe.
Are they a friend? Do I have an ongoing relationship with them already like coworker?
Are they persuading me to go against my negative feelings for them?
Do they have to persuade me because I don't want to date them?
Or because I feel I shouldn't date them, maybe due to logistics?

Or trying to persuade me to notice feelings that are neutral or hidden but do exist? Like I see them as a friend, and they're trying to persuade me to see them as something more?

Or are they a stranger? Going out with someone new always requires some persuading. It's generally called "hitting on" or "picking up."

would it be worth it to you to persuade someone whose turned you down before?

Depends on how/why they turned me down and what are the available alternatives/situation.

I would try to persuade a hottie who turned me down because they said they were too busy with work.
I wouldn't try to persuade a girl who turned me down because she said she wasn't attracted to me.



Good point. Offering an alternative circumstance if the one you presented was what she may have been turning down...and not you personally is not pushy, invasive or creepy like it might seem if she had said she didn’t want to go out with you specifically.

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Sun 03/11/18 10:23 AM
My late husband was shy too. You could try what he did to open conversation with me. We were at a laundromat on campus when he approached me to ask to borrow a quarter for his dryer cycle. He didn’t know that I had noticed him making change at the machine for 5 dollars of quarters and only had one load. Haha!

it was a simple approach that didn’t take much effort and allowed me to make an easy retreat after first contact if conversation didn’t appeal to me.

Yes, we began on a lie, but it was innocent enough to be endearing.

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Sun 03/11/18 09:10 AM

When you see someone dragging toilet paper on their shoe, their short tail hanging out of their zipper, mustard at the corner of their mouth, their wig or toupee askew, or other potential embarrassing (for them) situations....would you tell them?

If I have a relationship with them (friend, family, coworker) yes.
If they're a stranger, generally no, unless we were in an elevator or something, just one on one.

I have learned (especially from going to Wal Mart, where people walk around leaking poop down their leg) a lot of people don't give a crap about embarrassment anymore and they will use it against those that do.

In order to "warn" them about an embarrassment then I must care about embarrassment.
So many will "escalate" out of some kind of fear response maybe?

I've had guys yell at me "why the f' you looking at my crotch!?" when indicating their fly is down. Or called a pervert really loudly when pointing out a button on a blouse has popped off and she's exposing herself, or her shirts tucked into her underwear that's halfway up her back.
I've been told to f' off and mind my own business really loudly.

Attempts at pointing out potential embarrassment, people have escalated scenes to create embarrassment for me, there seems to be an inherent suspicion and fear involved.

So, I tend to let strangers just continue on being strangers.





Well that sucks. I admit to shying away from pointing out personal areas to the opposite sex. Where a guy might get defensive about thinking another man was checking out his jewels, most women would be more likely to thank another woman for pointing out a Janet Jackson at Super Bowl moment. laugh

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Sun 03/11/18 09:05 AM
Edited by JanDarling on Sun 03/11/18 09:06 AM

It depends what it is and who is sporting it.
If they are known A-Holes, no, I wouldn't tell them.
For complete strangers, yes, I would...discretely.
For loved ones, definitely.


Good point! The guy who was rude to me at the ticket counter is on his own when I see his shoe sporting TP at intermission. Haha!

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Sun 03/11/18 09:04 AM
I expected to see more jokesters showing up here.

Is it possible saving people embarrassments we wouldn’t wish to endure ourselves actually trumps people who love to laugh at others misfortune? Nice!

So do you feel that to laugh at people’s misfortuneate bloopers online is different, because there was nothing you could have done to help them anyway?

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Sun 03/11/18 08:59 AM

Hummm.... tell them...I would want someone to tell me...whoa

flowerforyou

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Sun 03/11/18 08:59 AM

I would because I would want someone to give me that same courtesy

flowerforyou

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Sun 03/11/18 08:58 AM




I forgot to note that I usually do, if a moment for discretion presents. Pointing it out to everyone else would defeat the purpose. Lol!

So far we are men vs women here. Interesting.


noooooooooo, I said I would.


Sorry Poetrywriter! I read it, but when I scanned again, I was just looking at the first sentence.

My bad. flowerforyou


You get 1 demerit. laugh flowerforyou


I deserve it. I will have to make it up to you. flowers

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Sun 03/11/18 08:54 AM

Unless she's riding in the back of a Rolls, with a bottle of Dom and a stack of 100's, and looks like a super model, I'm not easily persuaded.


But does she have Grey Poupon? One must have their standards! laugh

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Sun 03/11/18 08:53 AM

I have to say no. I can make up my own mind thank you very much. The more persuasive a guy gets the less chance there is of me accepting but that's just me. I prefer gentlemen who are respectful.


Very well said! I love the...”I can make up my own mind thank you very much.”

Exactly! flowerforyou

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Sun 03/11/18 08:50 AM









Have you or would you go out with someone who had to persuaded you to accept a date invitation?

And flip-side, would it be worth it to you to persuade someone whose turned you down before?





I would say no because either I like them enough to go out or I don't. No amount of persuading on their part will change my mind. And I would never try to persuade someone to go out if they turned me down before. That's not in my nature. If someone turned me down I would simply say I understand and let them know that I will always be here if they ever change their mind. That certainly is not persuasion. That is just being a gentleman.


Leaving the ball in their court is more my speed too. It is a gentleman’s move in my book. But I’m so old school, I don’t know how things are done on the dating scene today. Lol!


I am also old school Jan. A really old school.laugh Let the kids of today have their ways and we can keep ours.flowerforyou


I agree! I’m hip with a lot of things, thanks to my kids and grandkids, but dateing again will be on the comfortable terms I had the first time around. No BFFs or Hook-Ups for Granny here. Haha!


I am not looking forward to the day I am called grampy. When that happens, I will fan their behinds with my cane. laugh

I'm with ya both on this one.
At my age I feel I am wise enough to know who I want to be with and who I don't. Plus I realize I can't 'make' anyone love me. Its always their own choice.
There have been a few women that have changed their choice from nay to yay after seeing me being me. It wasn't persuasion that did it, it was realization that I was not what they thought I was. I call it time on target. Plus, its not just women. Most people like me better, the more they get to know me.


Good answer. Let any change in decision happen organically. I think trying to urge anything forward, overly encouraging someone to get to know you better, would been taken as pushy or manipulating anyway. Therefore spoiling any chance they might choose to do so in their own time.

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Sun 03/11/18 08:46 AM








Have you or would you go out with someone who had to persuaded you to accept a date invitation?

And flip-side, would it be worth it to you to persuade someone whose turned you down before?





I would say no because either I like them enough to go out or I don't. No amount of persuading on their part will change my mind. And I would never try to persuade someone to go out if they turned me down before. That's not in my nature. If someone turned me down I would simply say I understand and let them know that I will always be here if they ever change their mind. That certainly is not persuasion. That is just being a gentleman.


Leaving the ball in their court is more my speed too. It is a gentleman’s move in my book. But I’m so old school, I don’t know how things are done on the dating scene today. Lol!


I am also old school Jan. A really old school.laugh Let the kids of today have their ways and we can keep ours.flowerforyou


I agree! I’m hip with a lot of things, thanks to my kids and grandkids, but dateing again will be on the comfortable terms I had the first time around. No BFFs or Hook-Ups for Granny here. Haha!


I am not looking forward to the day I am called grampy. When that happens, I will fan their behinds with my cane. laugh


Being a grandparent is way better than being a percent. You get to spoil them and then give them back before they get grumpy. Haha!

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Sun 03/11/18 08:42 AM
I don’t have an actual store of items or “go bag”, but have calculated the risks we could face in the Midwest and feel, in most events, my everyday pantry would suffice.

I don’t eat canned or packaged foods generally, but keep a shelf in the panty with those items and take them to the local food pantry every 6 months and buy new packaged and canned products to replace them.

I keep a good supply of wood and charcoal in my shed in case of electrical outages that I can still cook for a couple of weeks, starting with whatever is in my freezer before it becomes useless.

I change out a drawer full of assorted batteries once a year when I check my smoke detectors. This drawer also contains fire starters, matches, candles a hand crank radio and hand crank flashlights, and a basic first aid kit. I also have an emergency bag with rope, panchos, tools, fishing line and hooks, knives and a flare gun.

My garage always has a large gas can I refill every dozen times I use it for the lawn mower, though it is never more than half empty. So I always have at the very least 5 gallons of gas available.

It may be a minimum by some standards, or an unnecessary precaution to others. But I have used the extras and been glad to have had them during several storms that left me and my family without power for several days.

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Sun 03/11/18 08:04 AM






Have you or would you go out with someone who had to persuaded you to accept a date invitation?

And flip-side, would it be worth it to you to persuade someone whose turned you down before?





I would say no because either I like them enough to go out or I don't. No amount of persuading on their part will change my mind. And I would never try to persuade someone to go out if they turned me down before. That's not in my nature. If someone turned me down I would simply say I understand and let them know that I will always be here if they ever change their mind. That certainly is not persuasion. That is just being a gentleman.


Leaving the ball in their court is more my speed too. It is a gentleman’s move in my book. But I’m so old school, I don’t know how things are done on the dating scene today. Lol!


I am also old school Jan. A really old school.laugh Let the kids of today have their ways and we can keep ours.flowerforyou


I agree! I’m hip with a lot of things, thanks to my kids and grandkids, but dateing again will be on the comfortable terms I had the first time around. No BFFs or Hook-Ups for Granny here. Haha!

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