For those who think that the illegal workers should be given the legal right to work in the US take a look at what the foreign workers who are legally let into Canada to work do....they don't even have to sneak into Canada anymore...

yeah, this is a touchy subject for me too... illegal is illegal, many corporations seem to think they are above the law and hire this cheap labor. Now we got government officials trying to give them the right to vote, the right to collect on social security benefits, diver's licenses, etc. Im all for immigration, but there are certain rules you have to go by. And it's not like the U.S. makes it hard to gain citizenship.

well maybe any alien should have a kind of system

along the lines of a probation system for convicted law breakers

they need to check in every couple weeks

and maintain contact info

and job status

as soon as any of these lapse they are then illegals

and deported as soon as picked up no if and or puts

yeah, they SHOULD prove they can hold down a job and not need to immediately be put on welfare. They SHOULD also at least be able to communicate in the countries native language. They SHOULD be put under the probational period as you suggested. They SHOULD also learn the nation's traditions (so not to unintentionally attack their sovereignty)... "When in rome..."
This doesn't mean they can't still exercise some of their original traditions...

If they turn crimminal, as you said, they SHOULD be immediately deported if the crime is committed within "x" amount of time.

have you been reading the mexico immigration site

nope..... I have read somewhere though that illegals costs the U.S. almost as much as the war in iraq. Don't know how true it is or where i read it, but i do know it costs us billions. Anyhow, i think we could learn a lot from looking at other countries and how they exercised their rules, and what affects it had. As long as they dont conflict with our constitution...

well maybe the united states only needs one immigration law

you immigration status

to the united states must conform to

the immigration laws of your native country

sounds good to me

Funny thing is the U.S. s one of the easiest countries to get a citizenship in... So yeah, if we used the immigrants' native country's rules then things would be much more strict (which i don't have problem with).

Speaking from north of the border the issue with these workers is I wonder what their real purpose for entering the country was not work related since they left the employment position that they legally held. It is a well known fact that it is easy to slip across the US border from Canada than it is by any other means how long will it be before they have stricter controls at this border and cause hardship to us who legally cross the border. This overly pc government up here needs to grow a backbone and deal with immigration in a realistic manner...

well just a thought

but the easiest way to get in the states illegally is from canada

not that this is what is happening

It actually is a burdensom process for them but they should abide by the rules and come in legally. As I have said before had our own people who wanted cheap labor and workers under the radar of tax's folllowed the rules, we would not have the problem we have today. They (illegals) have never been able to get government help so the people hiring them are the problem.

Those sites posting the "cost" are posting unrealistic propaganda on the costs, I have checked it out with the government sites. For example, the medical costs to Americans by illegals, there is no way to separate out the illegals cost versus the indigent citizens cost so they just used the indigent costs as the illegals cost and posted it. Very incorrect, we have way more indigent citizens than we do illegals. It goes on from there. Be very aware of where the information comes from. The hate sites are really backing the illegal immigration issue to perpetrate their racial bias.

Horsesh!t. Have you looked around lately?

Drivin..... You are correct in that it costs American taxpayers billions. Here is an example of some the costs associated with Mexican illegals.

Many, but not all, Mexican women sneak into the US and come into the emergency rooms of our public hospitals to deliver their new baby. Once the baby is born in an American hospital, that child is entitled to go to American schools. That child is also entitled to free medical care, food stamps, and cash benefits.

You need to remember that public hospitals, not private, cannot turn anyone away who needs medical care. These illegals are very much aware of that. I saw a documentary that showed how five days a week on the Mexican side of the border, hundreds and hundreds of Mexican children line up to cross the border. Once they are on the American side, American school buses are waiting to take them to American schools. In some of the border states, because of illegals, children are being taught out of trailers -- not the Mexican children, but American children. The reason for this is that in most states, schools are funded by taxpayer dollars. When a city/state is over flooded with children of illegals who are not paying taxex, then there are not enough schools.

Many American hospitals located in border cities have been forced to close down, because of illegals who do not have the money or health insurance to pay for medical attention. Sadly, many Americans in those border cities have died in ambulances on the way to hospitals, because the ambulances have to travel an inordinate amount of time to get to a hospital since the nearby hospitals were forced to close because of the burden of illegals.

An important note to remember is that American middle and lower classes are dependent upon the above services, which illegals, in many cases, are taking away from them or those services are being rationed because of illegals.

i feel that the born in the united states

clause

is abused greatly

i believe that this cluse was established for those legally in the country

not for whom ever sneaks across any borders

but i am taking liberty in saying this

so maybe it is incorrect

I agree; it would be interesting to get someone who is a Constitutional expert to clarify that. To me, it doesn't seem right that one breaks the law by sneaking into the country, abuses our health care system, and winds up getting a kid as an American citizen, all to get welfare and all the other goodies that go with it.

I think you're right and it makes sense so that a child born in the US isn't born without a country. I think it was a welcoming gesture to immigrants who came here legally but now the illegals are using it to their advantage. The sad fact is the poor child is being used as a pawn by their parents. These types of parents should never have children...

pack em up, ship em out, have em enter correctly. if their children are citizens, give them 2 choices.

1. take the child back with them and come in just as any other immigrant would have to

2. give said child up for adoption and come in legally if they choose to do so

cold, but meh... abusing our nation isn't any better

Do you have any idea how many indigent we have in our citizen ranks??? I do, I used to work for social services and I can tell you that there are 50 or 60 times the amount of indigent to the amount of aliens in this country.

Are you aware that most illegal aliens are indigents, which explains why there are so many indigents.