Topic: Regime change
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Wed 03/05/08 09:18 AM







This is a valid concern that there are Americans that do not realize that regime change makes us war criminals.noway huh


you criminallaugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

he said some international lawyers, he didnt say that the international court(that you tout).

and that statement does not lend creditbility to your accusations.

I am happy though that you decided to write this yourself.


The international lawyers already state we are illegally there. The point here is that we are A PART OF THIS WORLD WE LIVE IN, we should be considering the world counsels and their determination of what we do to SOVEREIGN NATIONS THAT HAVE NOT STRUCK US!!!!! As in 9/11 that started the ball rolling on Saddam.

You guys cannot make it right, no matter what you spout off about. We were wrong and when and if they decide to prosecute for these crimes, it will be deserved. We cannot and should not invade and occupy countries that did not do the crime. No matter how much you try you cannot make that right.noway


we should be considering the worlds counsel..... no i dont think we should. We have seen over and over again the ways of the world and the counsel that advises them into inepthood. the world counselors gave us world war 1 and 2, the french gave us veitnam, and that leaves the mid east for giving us counsel there, in a place where freedom is only granted when you die.

No I am not going to listen to the world counsel or their bad flippin advise.

To sound mean and arrogant, we lead the world contrary to your desires, and if the world listened more to our counsel "what a wonderful place it would be" as the song goes. Uneducated, unciivil, pretensious and ignorant world of hugging til it hurts. the world of genocide, the world of poverty, the world of the uneducated, the world of unable to feed themselves, the world of unable to fend for themselves.

No ma'ma, when the world needs something they come to us, right or wrong that is the way it happens. If the world was so smart they wouldnt require our help.

SO ONCE AGAIN, NO MA"AM I WILL NOT LISTEN TO THE COUNSEL OF THE WORLD THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!


Wow, such superiority and arrogance. My daddy would have shown you a little humility and no it was not an ass whuppin. LOL He was a medic like you in Vietnam he had ways.....lolbigsmile


YES, I am arrogant, but I am also truthful, what has the world done for us would have been a simpler debate I guess. Modern times that we live in have the US leading the way on EVERYTHING positive in the world.

we rebuilt Japan and gave them technology, then they took that and ran with it, good for them- see people can make it without government.

we rebuilt germay and gave them democracy and now look, theyre doing just fine too.

the list is longer as I am sure you know or remember from your college days.

"arrogant is the man who says war can be fought with hugs and understanding"


Ah yes, I've loved how our country could come in blow everything up, help to people we attacked rebuild and then leave them better than ever.

Sadly in none of those cases did we have a network of people resisting us at every turn. Let's face it we cannot make Iraq a better place until the terrorist threat is extinguished there.



huh? what do you think we are doing there? killing terorist and their networks.

It took TEN YEARS to de-nazify germany, so yeah there was a network of defiancy.

it'll all work out in the end. dont worry be happy. spread the love around. hahahaha

Dragoness's photo
Wed 03/05/08 09:20 AM







This is a valid concern that there are Americans that do not realize that regime change makes us war criminals.noway huh


you criminallaugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

he said some international lawyers, he didnt say that the international court(that you tout).

and that statement does not lend creditbility to your accusations.

I am happy though that you decided to write this yourself.


The international lawyers already state we are illegally there. The point here is that we are A PART OF THIS WORLD WE LIVE IN, we should be considering the world counsels and their determination of what we do to SOVEREIGN NATIONS THAT HAVE NOT STRUCK US!!!!! As in 9/11 that started the ball rolling on Saddam.

You guys cannot make it right, no matter what you spout off about. We were wrong and when and if they decide to prosecute for these crimes, it will be deserved. We cannot and should not invade and occupy countries that did not do the crime. No matter how much you try you cannot make that right.noway


we should be considering the worlds counsel..... no i dont think we should. We have seen over and over again the ways of the world and the counsel that advises them into inepthood. the world counselors gave us world war 1 and 2, the french gave us veitnam, and that leaves the mid east for giving us counsel there, in a place where freedom is only granted when you die.

No I am not going to listen to the world counsel or their bad flippin advise.

To sound mean and arrogant, we lead the world contrary to your desires, and if the world listened more to our counsel "what a wonderful place it would be" as the song goes. Uneducated, unciivil, pretensious and ignorant world of hugging til it hurts. the world of genocide, the world of poverty, the world of the uneducated, the world of unable to feed themselves, the world of unable to fend for themselves.

No ma'ma, when the world needs something they come to us, right or wrong that is the way it happens. If the world was so smart they wouldnt require our help.

SO ONCE AGAIN, NO MA"AM I WILL NOT LISTEN TO THE COUNSEL OF THE WORLD THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!


Wow, such superiority and arrogance. My daddy would have shown you a little humility and no it was not an ass whuppin. LOL He was a medic like you in Vietnam he had ways.....lolbigsmile


YES, I am arrogant, but I am also truthful, what has the world done for us would have been a simpler debate I guess. Modern times that we live in have the US leading the way on EVERYTHING positive in the world.

we rebuilt Japan and gave them technology, then they took that and ran with it, good for them- see people can make it without government.

we rebuilt germay and gave them democracy and now look, theyre doing just fine too.

the list is longer as I am sure you know or remember from your college days.

"arrogant is the man who says war can be fought with hugs and understanding"


Ah yes, I've loved how our country could come in blow everything up, help to people we attacked rebuild and then leave them better than ever.

Sadly in none of those cases did we have a network of people resisting us at every turn. Let's face it we cannot make Iraq a better place until the terrorist threat is extinguished there.


The problem here similar to what you said earlier. Terrorists are world wide. They are not centered in Iraq, they are not utilizing Iraq as homebase, nor have they ever. That was a propaganda ploy used to convince the American people that we needed to go to Iraq.

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Wed 03/05/08 09:22 AM
The problem here similar to what you said earlier. Terrorists are world wide. They are not centered in Iraq, they are not utilizing Iraq as homebase,


and your credible source for this is who?....madman?...laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 09:22 AM


This is a valid concern that there are Americans that do not realize that regime change makes us war criminals.noway huh

Hey, as horrible as it sounds, we are the most powerful nation in the world, it would take the combined might of every other nation to take us in... If our leaders decided we should commit a few war crimes, hey I don't agree, but I'm not the one in charge.


Well, now you know why Im afraid of Americans...excuse me but if you are an American citizen YOU are in charge and responsible for holding your "elected" officials accountable for their actions, especially if you dont agree...apathy is leading America down the path to ruin..
your jobs exported to foreign countries for the benefit of big business, no big deal,
your way of life (middle class getting squeezed out of existence) that everyone covets..slowly dissapearing...no one takes any action..
agressive measures taken against other countries (my opinion not withstanding)politicans suddenly loose their spines (Im talking about Dems backtracking now that they hold the majority in congress) and yet STILL no action from the American people...
For pity sakes, what does it take to get your guys off your butts and DO something??????
noway

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Wed 03/05/08 09:23 AM
they ARE now using iraq as a battlefield. and as in as much we should stay there and keep the fight going to them as best we can. not by pulling out with our collective heads between our legs.

armydoc4u's photo
Wed 03/05/08 09:27 AM



This is a valid concern that there are Americans that do not realize that regime change makes us war criminals.noway huh

Hey, as horrible as it sounds, we are the most powerful nation in the world, it would take the combined might of every other nation to take us in... If our leaders decided we should commit a few war crimes, hey I don't agree, but I'm not the one in charge.


Well, now you know why Im afraid of Americans...excuse me but if you are an American citizen YOU are in charge and responsible for holding your "elected" officials accountable for their actions, especially if you dont agree...apathy is leading America down the path to ruin..
your jobs exported to foreign countries for the benefit of big business, no big deal,
your way of life (middle class getting squeezed out of existence) that everyone covets..slowly dissapearing...no one takes any action..
agressive measures taken against other countries (my opinion not withstanding)politicans suddenly loose their spines (Im talking about Dems backtracking now that they hold the majority in congress) and yet STILL no action from the American people...
For pity sakes, what does it take to get your guys off your butts and DO something??????
noway


afraid of americans, sweety if so many people were afraid of americans they wouldnt still be coming over to our country in droves, risking their lives in makeshift rafts, the arduous track thru mexico's border towns.

get off our butts and do something? thats ripe. where are you again? argentina?

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Wed 03/05/08 09:28 AM


This is a valid concern that there are Americans that do not realize that regime change makes us war criminals.noway huh

Please excuse me but after reading so many posts in these forums I have concluded that my initial opinion of you was possibly inaccurate. You should contact CNN, MSNBC, and FOX with this news. It appears to have escaped them.


I figure it escaped them only because, they are accomplices in these WAR CRIMES!!!

no photo
Wed 03/05/08 09:29 AM

they ARE now using iraq as a battlefield. and as in as much we should stay there and keep the fight going to them as best we can. not by pulling out with our collective heads between our legs.


That was the Vietnam mind-set and look how that eventually ended...if they were going to leave things in the mess that they did they should have pulled US forces out way sooner, avoiding the deaths of so many more soldiers...same as Iraq...its obvious that there was other plan than to get in and get Saddam, sooo now what??? how many more soldiers deaths is it going to take to get US troops out of there?
Who are you fighting? Where is the other army? Terrorists are civilians...are you shooting at civilians? How can you tell which ones are terrorist? Do they wear brightly colored turbans on their heads for easy identification???

Dragoness's photo
Wed 03/05/08 09:29 AM



This is a valid concern that there are Americans that do not realize that regime change makes us war criminals.noway huh

Hey, as horrible as it sounds, we are the most powerful nation in the world, it would take the combined might of every other nation to take us in... If our leaders decided we should commit a few war crimes, hey I don't agree, but I'm not the one in charge.


Well, now you know why Im afraid of Americans...excuse me but if you are an American citizen YOU are in charge and responsible for holding your "elected" officials accountable for their actions, especially if you dont agree...apathy is leading America down the path to ruin..
your jobs exported to foreign countries for the benefit of big business, no big deal,
your way of life (middle class getting squeezed out of existence) that everyone covets..slowly dissapearing...no one takes any action..
agressive measures taken against other countries (my opinion not withstanding)politicans suddenly loose their spines (Im talking about Dems backtracking now that they hold the majority in congress) and yet STILL no action from the American people...
For pity sakes, what does it take to get your guys off your butts and DO something??????
noway


Well the warmongers have a power complex and need to have reasurance that they are "all powerful". War makes them feel powerful and in command, maybe because they do not feel it personally or something??? Who knows, but they are one of the banes of America.

What is said about those men who drive a big truck??? Have you heard of it????laugh laugh laugh laugh If not mail me and I will tell you.laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 09:32 AM


they ARE now using iraq as a battlefield. and as in as much we should stay there and keep the fight going to them as best we can. not by pulling out with our collective heads between our legs.


That was the Vietnam mind-set and look how that eventually ended...if they were going to leave things in the mess that they did they should have pulled US forces out way sooner, avoiding the deaths of so many more soldiers...same as Iraq...its obvious that there was other plan than to get in and get Saddam, sooo now what??? how many more soldiers deaths is it going to take to get US troops out of there?
Who are you fighting? Where is the other army? Terrorists are civilians...are you shooting at civilians? How can you tell which ones are terrorist? Do they wear brightly colored turbans on their heads for easy identification???


laugh noway huh They "interview" people by interrogation and get information and strick from that. Or so I have read anyway.noway

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Wed 03/05/08 09:33 AM


afraid of americans, sweety if so many people were afraid of americans they wouldnt still be coming over to our country in droves, risking their lives in makeshift rafts, the arduous track thru mexico's border towns.

get off our butts and do something? thats ripe. where are you again? argentina?



Im not Amercian..honey...I live in a country that is directly affected by American politics, the more screwed up you guys get the worse it gets here....Im one of the ones clamoring for National independence and to put a stop to catering to foreign interests like whores. Our politicians are pimps and Im on the side that keeps trying to get rid of them...like pulling weeds. But worth the effort. I hope to be alive the day the last McDonalds in Argentina is burned to the ground.

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Wed 03/05/08 09:33 AM


they ARE now using iraq as a battlefield. and as in as much we should stay there and keep the fight going to them as best we can. not by pulling out with our collective heads between our legs.


That was the Vietnam mind-set and look how that eventually ended...if they were going to leave things in the mess that they did they should have pulled US forces out way sooner, avoiding the deaths of so many more soldiers...same as Iraq...its obvious that there was other plan than to get in and get Saddam, sooo now what??? how many more soldiers deaths is it going to take to get US troops out of there?
Who are you fighting? Where is the other army? Terrorists are civilians...are you shooting at civilians? How can you tell which ones are terrorist? Do they wear brightly colored turbans on their heads for easy identification???


Yeah... the Iraq/Vietnam comparisons never get old...

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Wed 03/05/08 09:36 AM


Who are you fighting? Where is the other army? Terrorists are civilians...are you shooting at civilians? How can you tell which ones are terrorist? Do they wear brightly colored turbans on their heads for easy identification???


answering your questions in the order you asked.

terrorist
iraq among other places
trick question, but yeah they are civilians, with guns and other such things, have i shot at them or worse, hell yeah.

they carry guns, and for the most part yeah they wear identifiable clothing, they want the real civilians to know who they are(wouldnt expect you to know that tho from where you are)
Im not indiscriminately going around killing anybody, but thanks for the questions always like to educate when i can.

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Wed 03/05/08 09:37 AM


they ARE now using iraq as a battlefield. and as in as much we should stay there and keep the fight going to them as best we can. not by pulling out with our collective heads between our legs.


That was the Vietnam mind-set and look how that eventually ended...if they were going to leave things in the mess that they did they should have pulled US forces out way sooner, avoiding the deaths of so many more soldiers...same as Iraq...its obvious that there was other plan than to get in and get Saddam, sooo now what??? how many more soldiers deaths is it going to take to get US troops out of there?
Who are you fighting? Where is the other army? Terrorists are civilians...are you shooting at civilians? How can you tell which ones are terrorist? Do they wear brightly colored turbans on their heads for easy identification???


The issues in Viet Nam do not compare to the issues in Iraq...the issues now are the terrorists will fight wherever the US is and if the troops were to cut and run like the libs are threatening to do the terrorists will be right behind..and as far as the terrorists in Iraq the tide has turned and the citizens are pointing out the terrorists...it is nice that you pointed out that some of the "citizens" that have been killed were actually terrorists since the terrorists hide wearing civilian clothing, which you probably know contravenes the Geneva Convention...you shouldn't just rely on your comrades in here for your only source of "news" ...noway

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Wed 03/05/08 09:38 AM



This is a valid concern that there are Americans that do not realize that regime change makes us war criminals.noway huh

Please excuse me but after reading so many posts in these forums I have concluded that my initial opinion of you was possibly inaccurate. You should contact CNN, MSNBC, and FOX with this news. It appears to have escaped them.


I figure it escaped them only because, they are accomplices in these WAR CRIMES!!!
Thank you!!!!!! drinker

no photo
Wed 03/05/08 09:38 AM



they ARE now using iraq as a battlefield. and as in as much we should stay there and keep the fight going to them as best we can. not by pulling out with our collective heads between our legs.


That was the Vietnam mind-set and look how that eventually ended...if they were going to leave things in the mess that they did they should have pulled US forces out way sooner, avoiding the deaths of so many more soldiers...same as Iraq...its obvious that there was other plan than to get in and get Saddam, sooo now what??? how many more soldiers deaths is it going to take to get US troops out of there?
Who are you fighting? Where is the other army? Terrorists are civilians...are you shooting at civilians? How can you tell which ones are terrorist? Do they wear brightly colored turbans on their heads for easy identification???


Yeah... the Iraq/Vietnam comparisons never get old...


oh, sorry to "bore" you with the same 'ol rehtoric...do you need something new and sparkly to catch your attention????
huh

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Wed 03/05/08 09:39 AM

During McCains speech last night, as he read his expert prepared speech, his high point of the speech for the crowd was regime change from Saddam's regime. You say so what, right, nothing new, right?

The international lawyers stated that if we went to Iraq for regime change then we are quilty of war crimes against Iraq. Hope he and his supporters realize this very valid important fact.
:heart: :heart: :heart: Dragoness:heart: :heart: :heart:

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Wed 03/05/08 09:40 AM
flowerforyou Im with you Dragonessflowerforyou You Go Girlflowerforyou

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Wed 03/05/08 09:41 AM
You'll like this Dragon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

2 min!!

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Wed 03/05/08 09:42 AM

flowerforyou Im with you Dragonessflowerforyou You Go Girlflowerforyou


Haven't seen you around much mirror, nice to see you and thank you for the supportflowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou