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Topic: what is a zionist?
cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 03/02/08 08:23 PM
smo is always being called a zionist and i was wondering what that is?

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Sun 03/02/08 08:26 PM
Just a google thought....


is an international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine, and continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel.[1]

Although its origins are earlier, the movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century. The movement was eventually successful in establishing Israel in 1948, as the world's first and only modern Jewish State. Described as a "diaspora nationalism,"[2] its proponents regard it as a national liberation movement whose aim is the self-determination of the Jewish people.[3]

While Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood is thought to have first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE),[4][5] the modern movement was mainly secular, beginning largely as a response by European Jewry to antisemitism across Europe.[6] It constituted a branch of the broader phenomenon of modern nationalism.[7] At first one of several Jewish political movements offering alternative responses to the position of Jews in Europe, Zionism gradually gained more support, and after the Holocaust became the dominant Jewish political movement. Opposition to Zionism has arisen on a number of grounds, ranging from religious objections to competing claims of nationalism to political dissent that considers the ideology either immoral or impractical.[8][unreliable source?]

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Sun 03/02/08 08:44 PM
Zionist Occupation Government (abbreviated as ZOG) is a conspiracy theory according to which a select few Jews secretly control a country, while the formal government is a puppet regime. This expression is often used by various (sometimes) antisemitic groups including revisionists in the United States[1] and Europe,[2] ultra-nationalists such as Pamyat in Russia and right-wing groups in Poland[3].

The word "Zionist" in "Zionist Occupation Government" is derived from the ideology of Zionism, the movement for support of a Jewish state in the Land of Israel. As the conspiracy theorists chiefly name countries outside that area, the usage of Zionist in this context is misleading, and intended to portray Jews as conspirators who aim to control the world, as in the fabricated text The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Occupation_Government

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Sun 03/02/08 08:48 PM

smo is always being called a zionist and i was wondering what that is?



Smo hates Zionists. Consequently, a lot of us call him that to be funny. He's a good guy and takes the humor in stride.

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Sun 03/02/08 08:53 PM
Edited by cutelildevilsmom on Sun 03/02/08 08:54 PM


smo is always being called a zionist and i was wondering what that is?



Smo hates Zionists. Consequently, a lot of us call him that to be funny. He's a good guy and takes the humor in stride.

oh..laugh
thanks for the answers everyone.

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Sun 03/02/08 08:54 PM
Yikes!!

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Sun 03/02/08 09:00 PM
Zionism, the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims. Jews of all persuasions, left and right, religious and secular, joined to form the Zionist movement and worked together toward these goals. Disagreements led to rifts, but ultimately, the common goal of a Jewish state in its ancient homeland was attained. The term "Zionism" was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum.

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Sun 03/02/08 09:05 PM
Zi·on·ism (zīə-nĭz′əm)
n.



A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.



Zion·ist adj. & n.
Zi′on·istic adj.

Made possible by the British!!

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Sun 03/02/08 09:12 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 03/02/08 09:13 PM

Fanta46's photo
Sun 03/02/08 09:13 PM

Before the British made it possible and so, as john lueac would say, it was a mere dream.
Notice the country name "Palestine", it says it all. Speaks volumes as to the modern problems of the ME and the plight of the Palestinians.

The British occupied Palestine At the time and in todays terms encouraged the Terrorist "Israeli's" to occupy the Palestinians territory.
This is the reason we and the British are hated by the Arabs so much!!

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Sun 03/02/08 09:34 PM
Here is a Zionist cute.



During the pre-state days of Israel, Sharon joined the Haganah, the underground military organization formed by the Labor wing of the Zionist movement. In 1953, he was given command of the infamous Unit 101, whose mission was to lead "retaliatory" strikes against Arab terrorism. In reality, these missions took the form of indiscriminate violence aimed at civilians, not at direct sources of terrorism.

Unit 101's first documented assault took place in August 1953, on the El-Bureij refugee camp, south of Gaza. The reasoning given for the attack was "retaliatory," despite no evidence of provocation.7 An Israeli historian reported 50 refugees killed. United Nations commander Major General Vagn Bennike described the scene: "ombs were thrown through the windows of huts in which the refugees were sleeping and, as they fled, they were attacked by small arms and automatic weapons."8

In October 1953, Unit 101 descended on the Jordanian village of Qibya. This time the "reprisal" was for the killing of a mother and two children in an Israeli village. Jordan condemned the murders and offered to help in the investigation. No connection between the murders and Qibya was suspected. Nevertheless, Unit 101 showed no mercy on the people of Qibya. They blew up 45 houses, a school, and a mosque, and they killed 69 civilians, including dozens of women and children.

The United Nations (UN) military observers who arrived two hours after Sharon's commandos had left the scene reported:


Bullet-riddled bodies near the doorways and multiple bullet hits on the doors of the demolished houses indicated that the inhabitants had been forced to remain inside until their homes were blown up over them.... Witnesses were uniform in describing their experience as a night of horror, during which Israeli soldiers moved about in their village blowing up buildings, firing into doorways and windows with automatic weapons and throwing hand grenades.9

Time reported that Sharon's soldiers shot "every man, woman and child they could find. The cries of the dying could be heard amidst the explosions."10

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Sun 03/02/08 09:41 PM
In his autobiography, Warrior, Sharon makes the outrageous claim that he was not aware that people were in the houses they were blowing up. "But," says the warrior, "while civilian deaths were a tragedy, the Qibya raid was also a turning point.... t was now clear that Israeli forces were again capable of finding and hitting targets far behind enemy lines. What this means to army morale can hardly be exaggerated.... [W]ith Qibya a new sense of confidence began to take root."11 He also describes a meeting with Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion, who told Sharon the raid on Qibya would "make it possible for us to live here."12

The actions of Unit 101 were part of Israel's overall strategy to provoke armed conflict along the borders of UN-partitioned Palestine. The strategy had two goals. One was aimed at the Palestinian population directly: to instill terror, further disperse the refugees, and destroy emerging political and military structures (particularly targeted was Yassir Arafat's Fatah, later the core group in the Palestine Liberation Organization [PLO].) The second was directed toward the surrounding Arab countries: to force the Arab states into confrontations in order to further expand Israel's territory.


During one of Ariel Sharon’s visits to the White House, President George W. Bush described him as a "man of peace".

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Sun 03/02/08 09:43 PM
Oh what modern history and Television reports do not tell our children!!noway noway noway

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Sun 03/02/08 09:55 PM
And lets ignore and make excuses for this too.......

After the 1967 war, Israel succeeded in furthering the territorial goals of a "Greater Israel," but not without resistance. The highest level of Palestinian organization against the occupation was in Gaza. As the head of the IDF's southern command, Sharon was charged with the task of "pacifying" the Gaza Strip. Phil Reeves wrote in The Independent:


[T]he old men still remember it well. Especially the old men on Wreckage Street.... The street acquired its name after an unusually prolonged visit from Mr. Sharon's soldiers. Their orders were to bulldoze hundreds of homes to carve a wide, straight street....

"They came at night and began marking the houses they wanted to demolish with red paint," said Ibrahim Ghanim, 70, a retired laborer. "In the morning they came back, and ordered everyone to leave. I remember all the soldiers shouting at people, 'Yalla, yalla, yalla, yalla!'

"They threw everyone's belongings into the street. Then Sharon brought in bulldozers and started flattening the street. He did the whole lot, almost in one day. And the soldiers would beat people, can you imagine? Soldiers with guns, beating little kids?"



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Sun 03/02/08 09:57 PM
Now lets praise them and send our Christians to Jerusalem to marvel at God's chosen people......:cry: :cry:

Fanta46's photo
Sun 03/02/08 10:00 PM
Justify the legitimacy of the Jewish State Israel and protect them from their enemies!
and, Be damned in the name of Christianity!!

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Sun 03/02/08 10:01 PM
Amen............

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Mon 03/03/08 03:17 AM
which history are we using for isreal and the palestinians???? is it the new recent history (only from this century)

cause jews were there before the muslims.

the whole region over there was called palestine (you know like the south east asia area)- from syria down to the border of egypt over past iran, but they are just pissed about the little area of isreal, what happened to lebanon, or jordan, or iraq, or syria, think that telling only part of the truth is the whole truth? come on.

there is always more than one side to an arguement.

i say take the leashes off of them and let it be a free for all, wonder who wins that mess.

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Mon 03/03/08 04:32 AM
For those who are interested in getting a more balanced
perspective on the Israel-Arab conflict, an excellent
rebuttal of anti-Israel anti-Zionist propaganda may
be found here:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mftoc.html

along with a great deal of well documented historical records.

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Mon 03/03/08 07:51 AM
The Khazars are not semetic , they only claim to be, they are not originally from pallestine, they are Mongolians , Barbarians,Ottomans, they always lied, murdered, and stoled (I guess it is in their nature to be like that)and are not who they say they are(Rev 2:9 and rev 3:9) They stole the identity of Judeans back around 800 AD(date might not be right), who are today all lumped together under one TITLE, JEWS.(stolen identity)(they steal everything if possible) Even the Bible has been tampered by these false Jews , who now claim that they are Gods CHOSEN PEOPLE above all the rest of us.(Interesting story on how they took over the Catholic Church) I don't believe that our father ,GOD picked a favorite son and then said to his other sons, This jew son is an a--hole, but I don't care ,he is still my favorite son. God never wrote any books, only people wrote books. Jews write history too and a lot of it has been tampered too.

Just this morning ,I heard they(ISRAEL and US) want to attack Syria and Iran. They want to put oil pipe lines through Syria. They are putting big oil pipelines through Afghanistan right this very minute, right today. They are competing against Russia in the oil business. the Khazars run our money system here and the rest of the world is changing little by little their money systems away from ours in order to sink the Khazars. Iran, Russia ,Venzuela,and get this friends, even Kuwait who we supposedly helped in first Gulf War also dumped our money system(federal reserve notes) in their oil sales. (nice friend HUH?) Iran is selling their oil for Euros75% (volume)and Yen 25%(volume) sales. By the way the Khazars want to break up Yugoslavia (Balkans )(Sebia ,Kosovo, etc) for more oil pipe lines and try to cut Russia out of the oil market. It is the Khazars still working on taking over everything , but like I said earlier , they are failing and are getting desperate and getting to the point of being suicidal now. This is their last ditch effort for all or none. Even WALL STREET is now being sort of bought out by the Chinese ,,other Asians, and the oil Arabs. I guess they are using up the surplus federal reserve notes that they have laying around, all this seems to be backfiring on the Khazar money people.(suicidal) Remember reading about 1929 when some lost their fortunes, they jumped out of windows and committed suicide. What it is ,they are parasites and can not stand the idea that they might actually have to work for a living like the rest of us. They even brag among themselves about being parasites and not working for a living .Their time is running out and they know it.(suicidal)

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