Topic: Illegal War - Final World War?
Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 02/28/08 08:27 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 02/28/08 08:29 AM




this copy paste piece is from 2005, the sky hasnt fallen, your still alive.



Yea but some of the dissention is there as foretold here. I would rather not take a chance and just let Iraq deal with their own civil war just like we dealt with ours and be done with it. Of course we know that there will always be a military presence there as is the habit of us whereever we go, but stop the invasion and let them put it back together how they will. We do owe them a large apology though so maybe help them build some or something but no invasion.


apology? right... i forgot you havent been there. you dont get to see te real iraqi's in the street of little real towns out of the veiws of the camera, you havent been hugged ad kissed and al the rest, people offering you everything they have as a way of saying thanks, its funny when you have blinders on you cant see the truth.


For a medic you are not very "up" on psychology huh? If we were invaded here by a power bigger than us and we had no control of it or a way to stop it, we would kiss the feet of the invaders also out of fear of retribution. Silly mannoway


I think YOU would kiss their feet...

Another thing to think about is we aren't being run by Saddam.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/28/08 08:29 AM

SOME people only think the media stations that bash America are the only reputable ones. I think it's funny how they call us the "haters" or accuse as as being the "soldiers that love to kill". THEY are the ones preaching for further destruction of a country. THEY are the ones the "love" to hate America. It's almost amusing, when i am done being so angry i sit back and read every post where every problem is turned into something that Bush screwed up. It's amazing how far they stretch things into their self-fulfilling prophecy. Unlike us "soldiers that love to kill" they will never know anything about self sacrifice.


I am not saying anything about soldiers, have no problem with soldiers, like I said before unless they enjoy the killing too much and then I have a problem with that, they are doing the job given them, and they are honored for this.

It is not the soldiers fault that the initiator of the mission is a dolt. Idiocy of the head of the military is not the soldiers fault.

Everyone of the soldiers is appreciated here. If there are people out their who are judging the soldiers for doing their job they are wrong.

Baby shrub is to blame by either participation or lack of participation in a whole lot of problems in this country today. He is an imbecile.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/28/08 08:36 AM





this copy paste piece is from 2005, the sky hasnt fallen, your still alive.



Yea but some of the dissention is there as foretold here. I would rather not take a chance and just let Iraq deal with their own civil war just like we dealt with ours and be done with it. Of course we know that there will always be a military presence there as is the habit of us whereever we go, but stop the invasion and let them put it back together how they will. We do owe them a large apology though so maybe help them build some or something but no invasion.


apology? right... i forgot you havent been there. you dont get to see te real iraqi's in the street of little real towns out of the veiws of the camera, you havent been hugged ad kissed and al the rest, people offering you everything they have as a way of saying thanks, its funny when you have blinders on you cant see the truth.


For a medic you are not very "up" on psychology huh? If we were invaded here by a power bigger than us and we had no control of it or a way to stop it, we would kiss the feet of the invaders also out of fear of retribution. Silly mannoway


I think YOU would kiss their feet...

Another thing to think about is we aren't being run by Saddam.


You would to or die.

I guess I have to go through this again. Saddam did not do 9/11, Iraq is not the homeland of terrorists, Saddam and bin laden are not interchangeable, we illegally invaded Iraq on false premise, Iraqi blood is being shed for 9/11 when they did not do 9/11 had nothing to do with 9/11, WHERE IS THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11???? WHERE IS THE VINDICATION FOR 9/11??????

Saddam was a tyrant and we have utilized him in recent years before the war, as an ally. So how he ruled was okay with us when we utilized him for our purposes.

We f*cking blew their country to bits, control their streets, raid their homes daily, kill, maim, etc....... and after all of this they will not suck up every chance they get????? Come on, you fool yourself too much.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 02/28/08 08:41 AM
mmmkay, the soldiers aren't dumb robots that are blindly following orders. Almost all of the guys on the ground genuinely feel that they are making a positive difference in people's lives. I think you will find that VERY few soldiers "enjoy killing way too much". Although we do have a gruesome job. Most of us loath the long,tideous hours, the sleep deprivation, the being away from loved ones, and most importantly the violence. Im not going to tell you that many people regret shooting insurgents/terrorists, but it's not something we LOVE. It's a harsh job, we do what we must. Since we have the benefit of seeing our enemy face to face we now have a unique outlook. We, as soldiers, understand the psychology behind the everyday iraqi better than anyone that hasn't been over there. I know it's hard to accept, and you can hate Bush all you want, but the soldiers that have been over there aren't blind. Unlike some from an outside perspective we think about what would happen tactically, three steps ahead, instead of thinking about the immediate future. We also think about others instead of ourselves. We are making a positive difference. We will continue to sacrifice to make that difference until we feel we can abondon the matter.

smo's photo
Thu 02/28/08 08:42 AM
This is an up to date situation, China and Russia and Iran and probably most of the planet, except for England and Israel are opposing US right now!! in 2008!! Probably even worse now than back in 2005. If ,there is a WORLD WAR 3 ,America will be all ruble, back to the stone ages, BUT, if we are really, really, lucky, and get out of it easy,(no war) then China and others in Asia, and the oil people in the Mid-East will own WALL STREET, Which I think they are buying it up right now!! That might be what will get rid of the KHAZARS(liars thieves and murders) out of WALL STREET. Then maybe we can change the money system for an honest system(Constitution system)

Hey, I think I might be seeing some light down there at the end of the tunnel.drinker drinker laugh laugh

Go gettum, Barack!!drinker drinker laugh laugh

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 02/28/08 08:46 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 02/28/08 08:54 AM






this copy paste piece is from 2005, the sky hasnt fallen, your still alive.



Yea but some of the dissention is there as foretold here. I would rather not take a chance and just let Iraq deal with their own civil war just like we dealt with ours and be done with it. Of course we know that there will always be a military presence there as is the habit of us whereever we go, but stop the invasion and let them put it back together how they will. We do owe them a large apology though so maybe help them build some or something but no invasion.


apology? right... i forgot you havent been there. you dont get to see te real iraqi's in the street of little real towns out of the veiws of the camera, you havent been hugged ad kissed and al the rest, people offering you everything they have as a way of saying thanks, its funny when you have blinders on you cant see the truth.


For a medic you are not very "up" on psychology huh? If we were invaded here by a power bigger than us and we had no control of it or a way to stop it, we would kiss the feet of the invaders also out of fear of retribution. Silly mannoway


I think YOU would kiss their feet...

Another thing to think about is we aren't being run by Saddam.


You would to or die.

I guess I have to go through this again. Saddam did not do 9/11, Iraq is not the homeland of terrorists, Saddam and bin laden are not interchangeable, we illegally invaded Iraq on false premise, Iraqi blood is being shed for 9/11 when they did not do 9/11 had nothing to do with 9/11, WHERE IS THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11???? WHERE IS THE VINDICATION FOR 9/11??????

Saddam was a tyrant and we have utilized him in recent years before the war, as an ally. So how he ruled was okay with us when we utilized him for our purposes.

We f*cking blew their country to bits, control their streets, raid their homes daily, kill, maim, etc....... and after all of this they will not suck up every chance they get????? Come on, you fool yourself too much.


see...this is where the self fulfilling prophecy i was talking about comes into play. Who ever said he was responsible for 9/11? Did we think he was a threat? Yes. But i always got the impression that it was a separate issue from 9/11. I can rightfully say that if someone invaded this country, and WE ARE NOT RULED BY A TYRANT THAT GAVE THEM A PURPOSE, i would not be alive if they took it over. I hold true to my vows and believe in selflessness even if you don't. YOU fool YOURSELF too much.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 02/28/08 08:48 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 02/28/08 08:56 AM

This is an up to date situation, China and Russia and Iran and probably most of the planet, except for England and Israel are opposing US right now!! in 2008!! Probably even worse now than back in 2005. If ,there is a WORLD WAR 3 ,America will be all ruble, back to the stone ages, BUT, if we are really, really, lucky, and get out of it easy,(no war) then China and others in Asia, and the oil people in the Mid-East will own WALL STREET, Which I think they are buying it up right now!! That might be what will get rid of the KHAZARS(liars thieves and murders) out of WALL STREET. Then maybe we can change the money system for an honest system(Constitution system)

Hey, I think I might be seeing some light down there at the end of the tunnel.drinker drinker laugh laugh

Go gettum, Barack!!drinker drinker laugh laugh


No country with an abundance of nuclear weapons will ever get invaded and taken over. No one is stupid enough to start a large scale nuclear war.

armydoc4u's photo
Thu 02/28/08 09:01 AM
Edited by armydoc4u on Thu 02/28/08 09:04 AM






this copy paste piece is from 2005, the sky hasnt fallen, your still alive.



Yea but some of the dissention is there as foretold here. I would rather not take a chance and just let Iraq deal with their own civil war just like we dealt with ours and be done with it. Of course we know that there will always be a military presence there as is the habit of us whereever we go, but stop the invasion and let them put it back together how they will. We do owe them a large apology though so maybe help them build some or something but no invasion.


apology? right... i forgot you havent been there. you dont get to see te real iraqi's in the street of little real towns out of the veiws of the camera, you havent been hugged ad kissed and al the rest, people offering you everything they have as a way of saying thanks, its funny when you have blinders on you cant see the truth.


For a medic you are not very "up" on psychology huh? If we were invaded here by a power bigger than us and we had no control of it or a way to stop it, we would kiss the feet of the invaders also out of fear of retribution. Silly mannoway


I think YOU would kiss their feet...

Another thing to think about is we aren't being run by Saddam.


You would to or die.

I guess I have to go through this again. Saddam did not do 9/11, Iraq is not the homeland of terrorists, Saddam and bin laden are not interchangeable, we illegally invaded Iraq on false premise, Iraqi blood is being shed for 9/11 when they did not do 9/11 had nothing to do with 9/11, WHERE IS THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11???? WHERE IS THE VINDICATION FOR 9/11??????

Saddam was a tyrant and we have utilized him in recent years before the war, as an ally. So how he ruled was okay with us when we utilized him for our purposes.

We f*cking blew their country to bits, control their streets, raid their homes daily, kill, maim, etc....... and after all of this they will not suck up every chance they get????? Come on, you fool yourself too much.


WOW and woe sister, Im glad you have an opinion, as ilinformed as it is, after all you havent been there and yet you want to argue with people who have, does that seem rational to you?

If this counry were ever invaded I can see people like you bowing down, luckily there are people like me who would die first, its a little thing but we call it courage and honor.

the whole arguement of saddam and binloser being interchangable has not been made by me nor will it. saddam was not a mass murdering ass, wheres your bleeding heart for the millions of men women and CHILDREN you profess to love so much that he slaughtered(had slaughtered).

When we helped saddam out(this is where knowing your history helps a little) it was after the iranians took americans hostage and your beloved dem pres at the time did nothing, then reagan came along and what do you know we get the hostages back. then as away of fighting the iranians saddam comes into the picture.... now realize that iranians arent arabs but rather turks so there is no love lost there and saddam wanted to fight them worse than we did, he just didnt have the means, so yea we gave him some crappy tanks and beat up guns,,,,, this was all before he went on his personal killing spree. One thing led to another there were skirmishes then out of nowhere he throws some mustard gas at the iranians(can you say WMDs) a few years later he decides that wasnt enough so comes the kuwait thing. then more kid killing woman raping man exterminating and several resolutions later, coincidently coinciding with what was going on in afghanistan, it made sense to kick his ass. we were there anyway.

No we didnt blow their country to bits, yes we blew some sh1t up but not the country, it was in a dilapitated state before we got there, the palaces were nice, which was funding by the illegal food for oil money conveniently provided for by the secretary generals son.

your cant teach little kids to come out and joyously wave and dance around if they dont want to. you have never seen their eyes or there faces so the one who is fooling themself isnt me at all, but rather the person whom thinks she knows what it is like over there having never been herself. dont try to preach to me about someting you know nothing about, your a fool and it shows through these threads the more you type.

dont you have some condoms to go throw at gradeschoolers, maybe if you try to scare the crap out of them you might have some luck keeping your party together, the country is waking up from you bullsh1t party lady better prepare yourself to cowar somewhere or be ostrecized by the angry mob when it comes to, i think their piss at you guys.

smo's photo
Thu 02/28/08 09:39 AM


This is an up to date situation, China and Russia and Iran and probably most of the planet, except for England and Israel are opposing US right now!! in 2008!! Probably even worse now than back in 2005. If ,there is a WORLD WAR 3 ,America will be all ruble, back to the stone ages, BUT, if we are really, really, lucky, and get out of it easy,(no war) then China and others in Asia, and the oil people in the Mid-East will own WALL STREET, Which I think they are buying it up right now!! That might be what will get rid of the KHAZARS(liars thieves and murders) out of WALL STREET. Then maybe we can change the money system for an honest system(Constitution system)

Hey, I think I might be seeing some light down there at the end of the tunnel.drinker drinker laugh laugh

Go gettum, Barack!!drinker drinker laugh laugh


No country with an abundance of nuclear weapons will ever get invaded and taken over. No one is stupid enough to start a large scale nuclear war.




Drivenutz ,I am hoping too ,that no one is that stupid. But the problem is that since we have supposedly been getting away with invading other countries, and occupying them, we are acting like a drunk that can not quit over drinking, we seem to be addicted to over throwing and occupying countries one after another like Hitler started doing. Eventually some body is going to draw the line on us,(I heard something about a new military base in Kosovo)(it seems to never end) if we don't get the Bush Gang out of there soon, before He attacks more people, or before Israel attacks more people. Israel seems to like to attack or throw a wrench in the gears and then stand back , and Say: Let's you and him fight, and they(KHAZARS) will be happy to lend money to both sides of the war ,so that it can keep going. It is my understanding that War equip. is their main export...........noway noway noway laugh laugh laugh

armydoc4u's photo
Thu 02/28/08 09:54 AM



This is an up to date situation, China and Russia and Iran and probably most of the planet, except for England and Israel are opposing US right now!! in 2008!! Probably even worse now than back in 2005. If ,there is a WORLD WAR 3 ,America will be all ruble, back to the stone ages, BUT, if we are really, really, lucky, and get out of it easy,(no war) then China and others in Asia, and the oil people in the Mid-East will own WALL STREET, Which I think they are buying it up right now!! That might be what will get rid of the KHAZARS(liars thieves and murders) out of WALL STREET. Then maybe we can change the money system for an honest system(Constitution system)

Hey, I think I might be seeing some light down there at the end of the tunnel.drinker drinker laugh laugh

Go gettum, Barack!!drinker drinker laugh laugh


No country with an abundance of nuclear weapons will ever get invaded and taken over. No one is stupid enough to start a large scale nuclear war.




Drivenutz ,I am hoping too ,that no one is that stupid. But the problem is that since we have supposedly been getting away with invading other countries, and occupying them, we are acting like a drunk that can not quit over drinking, we seem to be addicted to over throwing and occupying countries one after another like Hitler started doing. Eventually some body is going to draw the line on us,(I heard something about a new military base in Kosovo)(it seems to never end) if we don't get the Bush Gang out of there soon, before He attacks more people, or before Israel attacks more people. Israel seems to like to attack or throw a wrench in the gears and then stand back , and Say: Let's you and him fight, and they(KHAZARS) will be happy to lend money to both sides of the war ,so that it can keep going. It is my understanding that War equip. is their main export...........noway noway noway laugh laugh laugh


did I see kosovo?

hell yeah Im glad you brought that up, we are still there after all these years, it started with clinton you know, he said we'd be out in a year,,,,, not, we're still kicking around there, in the middle of their own civil war to, but that was ethnic cleansing by the millions crazy, im glad we're there and im pretty sure we will be there long after we're out of iraq.

but you wanted to blame it on bushy boy- shame on you, the truth shall set you free!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh

Lindyy's photo
Thu 02/28/08 10:06 AM





did I see kosovo?

hell yeah Im glad you brought that up, we are still there after all these years, it started with clinton you know, he said we'd be out in a year,,,,, not, we're still kicking around there, in the middle of their own civil war to, but that was ethnic cleansing by the millions crazy, im glad we're there and im pretty sure we will be there long after we're out of iraq.

but you wanted to blame it on bushy boy- shame on you, the truth shall set you free!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh


DOC:

Oh, my God, thank you. I am soooo glad you brought this up!!!
But, again, the leftie libbers donot want to hear that. What a smack in the face you did!!!

Lindyy
:heart:

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Thu 02/28/08 10:12 AM




this copy paste piece is from 2005, the sky hasnt fallen, your still alive.



Yea but some of the dissention is there as foretold here. I would rather not take a chance and just let Iraq deal with their own civil war just like we dealt with ours and be done with it. Of course we know that there will always be a military presence there as is the habit of us whereever we go, but stop the invasion and let them put it back together how they will. We do owe them a large apology though so maybe help them build some or something but no invasion.


apology? right... i forgot you havent been there. you dont get to see te real iraqi's in the street of little real towns out of the veiws of the camera, you havent been hugged ad kissed and al the rest, people offering you everything they have as a way of saying thanks, its funny when you have blinders on you cant see the truth.


For a medic you are not very "up" on psychology huh? If we were invaded here by a power bigger than us and we had no control of it or a way to stop it, we would kiss the feet of the invaders also out of fear of retribution. Silly mannoway


That would be if we were invading looking to attack them and forced our way into their homes. These are people who we are trying to liberate not to attack. We are not confronting them but they are confronting us.

no photo
Thu 02/28/08 10:17 AM


No country with an abundance of nuclear weapons will ever get invaded and taken over. No one is stupid enough to start a large scale nuclear war.


This is a very dangerous under-statment. We live in very precarious times when religious zealots rule over pragmatic politicians (all over the world).

no photo
Thu 02/28/08 10:44 AM


WOW and woe sister, Im glad you have an opinion, as ilinformed as it is, after all you havent been there and yet you want to argue with people who have, does that seem rational to you?
..SO YOU BEING THERE GIVES YOU MORE CREDIBILITY?? YOU SHOULD TONE DOWN THE HOSTILITY A BIT, YOURE TALKING TO AN AMERICAN CIVILIAN, NOT AN IRAQI. GUESS YOU'RE JUST USED TO TALKING DOWN TO FOLKS.

If this counry were ever invaded I can see people like you bowing down, luckily there are people like me who would die first, its a little thing but we call it courage and honor.
..YOU DONT KNOW WHAT SHE WOULD DO, ALL YOU KNOW IS WHAT YOU WOULD DO...WHY DONT YOU TRY TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW?

the whole arguement of saddam and binloser being interchangable has not been made by me nor will it. saddam was not a mass murdering ass, wheres your bleeding heart for the millions of men women and CHILDREN you profess to love so much that he slaughtered(had slaughtered).
...WHERE WAS THE US WHEN HE WAS SLAUGHTERING THE INNOCENT FOR ALL THOSE YEARS, WHAT ABOUT THE KURDS THAT BUSH SR ABANDONED AFTER THE KUWAIT WAR...??

When we helped saddam out(this is where knowing your history helps a little) it was after the iranians took americans hostage and your beloved dem pres at the time did nothing, then reagan came along and what do you know we get the hostages back. then as away of fighting the iranians saddam comes into the picture.... now realize that iranians arent arabs but rather turks so there is no love lost there and saddam wanted to fight them worse than we did, he just didnt have the means, so yea we gave him some crappy tanks and beat up guns,,,,, this was all before he went on his personal killing spree. One thing led to another there were skirmishes then out of nowhere he throws some mustard gas at the iranians(can you say WMDs) a few years later he decides that wasnt enough so comes the kuwait thing. then more kid killing woman raping man exterminating and several resolutions later, coincidently coinciding with what was going on in afghanistan, it made sense to kick his ass. we were there anyway.
...OH I **LOVE** THIS GI JOE UNDERSTANDING OF HISTORY...HAVE YOU FORGOTTON THE IRAN/CONTRA SCANDAL? REAGAN SOLD WEAPONS TO IRAN(KNOWN TERRORIST NATION HOLDING AMERICAN CIVILIANS HOSTAGE FOR 9 YEARS)..THATS HOW HE GOT THE HOSTAGES BACK, THEN SOLD WEAPONS TO IRAQ TO FIGHT AGAINST IRAN SINCE THE US COULDNT TOPPLE THE IATOLA..THE US NEEDED SOMEONE LIKE SADDAM TO DO THE DIRTY WORK FOR THEM...AH, BY THE WAY THOSE WEAPONS SOLD TO IRAQ??? SAME ONES USED AGAINST US SOLDIERS IN THE KUWAIT WAR.

No we didnt blow their country to bits, yes we blew some sh1t up but not the country, it was in a dilapitated state before we got there, the palaces were nice, which was funding by the illegal food for oil money conveniently provided for by the secretary generals son.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS SHOT...BUT YOU ARE THERE, YOU SEE IT EVEN IF YOU ARE WILLING TO DENY WHAT YOUR OWN EYES ARE WITNESS TO.

your cant teach little kids to come out and joyously wave and dance around if they dont want to. you have never seen their eyes or there faces so the one who is fooling themself isnt me at all, but rather the person whom thinks she knows what it is like over there having never been herself. dont try to preach to me about someting you know nothing about, your a fool and it shows through these threads the more you type.

dont you have some condoms to go throw at gradeschoolers, maybe if you try to scare the crap out of them you might have some luck keeping your party together, the country is waking up from you bullsh1t party lady better prepare yourself to cowar somewhere or be ostrecized by the angry mob when it comes to, i think their piss at you guys.


These last two paragraphs make my blood chill...that you feel entitled to attack, insult and degrade someone because they have a differing point of view from yours, speaks volumes to the division that exists in the USA today. And whats REALLY scary is that you are a soldier, god help the innocent people that cross your path with that arrogant attitude you have. I really am afraid of Americans, especially Americans like you...and I wouldnt be surprised if this last little line brings a smug satisfied smile to your face.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/28/08 11:04 AM







this copy paste piece is from 2005, the sky hasnt fallen, your still alive.



Yea but some of the dissention is there as foretold here. I would rather not take a chance and just let Iraq deal with their own civil war just like we dealt with ours and be done with it. Of course we know that there will always be a military presence there as is the habit of us whereever we go, but stop the invasion and let them put it back together how they will. We do owe them a large apology though so maybe help them build some or something but no invasion.


apology? right... i forgot you havent been there. you dont get to see te real iraqi's in the street of little real towns out of the veiws of the camera, you havent been hugged ad kissed and al the rest, people offering you everything they have as a way of saying thanks, its funny when you have blinders on you cant see the truth.


For a medic you are not very "up" on psychology huh? If we were invaded here by a power bigger than us and we had no control of it or a way to stop it, we would kiss the feet of the invaders also out of fear of retribution. Silly mannoway


I think YOU would kiss their feet...

Another thing to think about is we aren't being run by Saddam.


You would to or die.

I guess I have to go through this again. Saddam did not do 9/11, Iraq is not the homeland of terrorists, Saddam and bin laden are not interchangeable, we illegally invaded Iraq on false premise, Iraqi blood is being shed for 9/11 when they did not do 9/11 had nothing to do with 9/11, WHERE IS THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11???? WHERE IS THE VINDICATION FOR 9/11??????

Saddam was a tyrant and we have utilized him in recent years before the war, as an ally. So how he ruled was okay with us when we utilized him for our purposes.

We f*cking blew their country to bits, control their streets, raid their homes daily, kill, maim, etc....... and after all of this they will not suck up every chance they get????? Come on, you fool yourself too much.


see...this is where the self fulfilling prophecy i was talking about comes into play. Who ever said he was responsible for 9/11? Did we think he was a threat? Yes. But i always got the impression that it was a separate issue from 9/11. I can rightfully say that if someone invaded this country, and WE ARE NOT RULED BY A TYRANT THAT GAVE THEM A PURPOSE, i would not be alive if they took it over. I hold true to my vows and believe in selflessness even if you don't. YOU fool YOURSELF too much.


You have been so dam brainwashed. Saddam was not a threat to us until after 9/11, right? We were utilizing Saddam before the 9/11 attack. WHERE IS THE VINDICATION FOR 9/11?????!!!!!!!

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/28/08 11:15 AM



WOW and woe sister, Im glad you have an opinion, as ilinformed as it is, after all you havent been there and yet you want to argue with people who have, does that seem rational to you?
..SO YOU BEING THERE GIVES YOU MORE CREDIBILITY?? YOU SHOULD TONE DOWN THE HOSTILITY A BIT, YOURE TALKING TO AN AMERICAN CIVILIAN, NOT AN IRAQI. GUESS YOU'RE JUST USED TO TALKING DOWN TO FOLKS.

If this counry were ever invaded I can see people like you bowing down, luckily there are people like me who would die first, its a little thing but we call it courage and honor.
..YOU DONT KNOW WHAT SHE WOULD DO, ALL YOU KNOW IS WHAT YOU WOULD DO...WHY DONT YOU TRY TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW?

the whole arguement of saddam and binloser being interchangable has not been made by me nor will it. saddam was not a mass murdering ass, wheres your bleeding heart for the millions of men women and CHILDREN you profess to love so much that he slaughtered(had slaughtered).
...WHERE WAS THE US WHEN HE WAS SLAUGHTERING THE INNOCENT FOR ALL THOSE YEARS, WHAT ABOUT THE KURDS THAT BUSH SR ABANDONED AFTER THE KUWAIT WAR...??

When we helped saddam out(this is where knowing your history helps a little) it was after the iranians took americans hostage and your beloved dem pres at the time did nothing, then reagan came along and what do you know we get the hostages back. then as away of fighting the iranians saddam comes into the picture.... now realize that iranians arent arabs but rather turks so there is no love lost there and saddam wanted to fight them worse than we did, he just didnt have the means, so yea we gave him some crappy tanks and beat up guns,,,,, this was all before he went on his personal killing spree. One thing led to another there were skirmishes then out of nowhere he throws some mustard gas at the iranians(can you say WMDs) a few years later he decides that wasnt enough so comes the kuwait thing. then more kid killing woman raping man exterminating and several resolutions later, coincidently coinciding with what was going on in afghanistan, it made sense to kick his ass. we were there anyway.
...OH I **LOVE** THIS GI JOE UNDERSTANDING OF HISTORY...HAVE YOU FORGOTTON THE IRAN/CONTRA SCANDAL? REAGAN SOLD WEAPONS TO IRAN(KNOWN TERRORIST NATION HOLDING AMERICAN CIVILIANS HOSTAGE FOR 9 YEARS)..THATS HOW HE GOT THE HOSTAGES BACK, THEN SOLD WEAPONS TO IRAQ TO FIGHT AGAINST IRAN SINCE THE US COULDNT TOPPLE THE IATOLA..THE US NEEDED SOMEONE LIKE SADDAM TO DO THE DIRTY WORK FOR THEM...AH, BY THE WAY THOSE WEAPONS SOLD TO IRAQ??? SAME ONES USED AGAINST US SOLDIERS IN THE KUWAIT WAR.

No we didnt blow their country to bits, yes we blew some sh1t up but not the country, it was in a dilapitated state before we got there, the palaces were nice, which was funding by the illegal food for oil money conveniently provided for by the secretary generals son.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS SHOT...BUT YOU ARE THERE, YOU SEE IT EVEN IF YOU ARE WILLING TO DENY WHAT YOUR OWN EYES ARE WITNESS TO.

your cant teach little kids to come out and joyously wave and dance around if they dont want to. you have never seen their eyes or there faces so the one who is fooling themself isnt me at all, but rather the person whom thinks she knows what it is like over there having never been herself. dont try to preach to me about someting you know nothing about, your a fool and it shows through these threads the more you type.

dont you have some condoms to go throw at gradeschoolers, maybe if you try to scare the crap out of them you might have some luck keeping your party together, the country is waking up from you bullsh1t party lady better prepare yourself to cowar somewhere or be ostrecized by the angry mob when it comes to, i think their piss at you guys.


These last two paragraphs make my blood chill...that you feel entitled to attack, insult and degrade someone because they have a differing point of view from yours, speaks volumes to the division that exists in the USA today. And whats REALLY scary is that you are a soldier, god help the innocent people that cross your path with that arrogant attitude you have. I really am afraid of Americans, especially Americans like you...and I wouldnt be surprised if this last little line brings a smug satisfied smile to your face.



Don't worry, we are not all like these examples here. There are those of us who are couth and live with respect for human life and respect other countries and their rights.

Baby shrub has made us barely better than the terrorists he is claiming to war against but there is a movement in this country that will stop it. If shrub could run again you should be very afraid, if McCain gets in office you should be very afraid. This country will become the tyrannic dictatorship that it supposedly fights against.

It is taking us much longer than we thought as these individuals that love to warmonger and fearmonger continue to twist the facts but the facts are there.

We were wrong to attack Saddam and Iraq for retribution of 9/11. It is an illegal war. We are shedding innocent blood daily ours and theirs.

WHERE IS THE PERPETRATOR OF THE GREATEST CRIME ON AMERICAN SOIL??????????? WHERE IS THE VINDICATION FOR 9/11?????????????

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Thu 02/28/08 11:18 AM



No country with an abundance of nuclear weapons will ever get invaded and taken over. No one is stupid enough to start a large scale nuclear war.


This is a very dangerous under-statment. We live in very precarious times when religious zealots rule over pragmatic politicians (all over the world).



Agreed, and with Bush giving no consideration to international counsel, we have put ourselves in a very precarious position. We are in violation of international law. This is not being received well in many powerful arenas. Baby shrub did it. He made us appear as bad as terrorists with bigger guns.

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Thu 02/28/08 11:21 AM







this copy paste piece is from 2005, the sky hasnt fallen, your still alive.



Yea but some of the dissention is there as foretold here. I would rather not take a chance and just let Iraq deal with their own civil war just like we dealt with ours and be done with it. Of course we know that there will always be a military presence there as is the habit of us whereever we go, but stop the invasion and let them put it back together how they will. We do owe them a large apology though so maybe help them build some or something but no invasion.


apology? right... i forgot you havent been there. you dont get to see te real iraqi's in the street of little real towns out of the veiws of the camera, you havent been hugged ad kissed and al the rest, people offering you everything they have as a way of saying thanks, its funny when you have blinders on you cant see the truth.


For a medic you are not very "up" on psychology huh? If we were invaded here by a power bigger than us and we had no control of it or a way to stop it, we would kiss the feet of the invaders also out of fear of retribution. Silly mannoway


I think YOU would kiss their feet...

Another thing to think about is we aren't being run by Saddam.


You would to or die.

I guess I have to go through this again. Saddam did not do 9/11, Iraq is not the homeland of terrorists, Saddam and bin laden are not interchangeable, we illegally invaded Iraq on false premise, Iraqi blood is being shed for 9/11 when they did not do 9/11 had nothing to do with 9/11, WHERE IS THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11???? WHERE IS THE VINDICATION FOR 9/11??????

Saddam was a tyrant and we have utilized him in recent years before the war, as an ally. So how he ruled was okay with us when we utilized him for our purposes.

We f*cking blew their country to bits, control their streets, raid their homes daily, kill, maim, etc....... and after all of this they will not suck up every chance they get????? Come on, you fool yourself too much.


WOW and woe sister, Im glad you have an opinion, as ilinformed as it is, after all you havent been there and yet you want to argue with people who have, does that seem rational to you?

If this counry were ever invaded I can see people like you bowing down, luckily there are people like me who would die first, its a little thing but we call it courage and honor.

the whole arguement of saddam and binloser being interchangable has not been made by me nor will it. saddam was not a mass murdering ass, wheres your bleeding heart for the millions of men women and CHILDREN you profess to love so much that he slaughtered(had slaughtered).

When we helped saddam out(this is where knowing your history helps a little) it was after the iranians took americans hostage and your beloved dem pres at the time did nothing, then reagan came along and what do you know we get the hostages back. then as away of fighting the iranians saddam comes into the picture.... now realize that iranians arent arabs but rather turks so there is no love lost there and saddam wanted to fight them worse than we did, he just didnt have the means, so yea we gave him some crappy tanks and beat up guns,,,,, this was all before he went on his personal killing spree. One thing led to another there were skirmishes then out of nowhere he throws some mustard gas at the iranians(can you say WMDs) a few years later he decides that wasnt enough so comes the kuwait thing. then more kid killing woman raping man exterminating and several resolutions later, coincidently coinciding with what was going on in afghanistan, it made sense to kick his ass. we were there anyway.

No we didnt blow their country to bits, yes we blew some sh1t up but not the country, it was in a dilapitated state before we got there, the palaces were nice, which was funding by the illegal food for oil money conveniently provided for by the secretary generals son.

your cant teach little kids to come out and joyously wave and dance around if they dont want to. you have never seen their eyes or there faces so the one who is fooling themself isnt me at all, but rather the person whom thinks she knows what it is like over there having never been herself. dont try to preach to me about someting you know nothing about, your a fool and it shows through these threads the more you type.

dont you have some condoms to go throw at gradeschoolers, maybe if you try to scare the crap out of them you might have some luck keeping your party together, the country is waking up from you bullsh1t party lady better prepare yourself to cowar somewhere or be ostrecized by the angry mob when it comes to, i think their piss at you guys.


They are afraid and they are sucking up to you soldiers, you read far to much into it. Hell, kids are happy to see the people in general especially if they can feel the stir from the adults. You are reveling in fear and it is sick.

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Thu 02/28/08 11:24 AM
could someone tell me in less tha 10 words where the illegal

war is taking place cause at the moment i do not know of one

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Thu 02/28/08 11:25 AM





this copy paste piece is from 2005, the sky hasnt fallen, your still alive.



Yea but some of the dissention is there as foretold here. I would rather not take a chance and just let Iraq deal with their own civil war just like we dealt with ours and be done with it. Of course we know that there will always be a military presence there as is the habit of us whereever we go, but stop the invasion and let them put it back together how they will. We do owe them a large apology though so maybe help them build some or something but no invasion.


apology? right... i forgot you havent been there. you dont get to see te real iraqi's in the street of little real towns out of the veiws of the camera, you havent been hugged ad kissed and al the rest, people offering you everything they have as a way of saying thanks, its funny when you have blinders on you cant see the truth.


For a medic you are not very "up" on psychology huh? If we were invaded here by a power bigger than us and we had no control of it or a way to stop it, we would kiss the feet of the invaders also out of fear of retribution. Silly mannoway


That would be if we were invading looking to attack them and forced our way into their homes. These are people who we are trying to liberate not to attack. We are not confronting them but they are confronting us.


What are you talking about???noway That is exactly what they are doing. Liberators liberators from what??? Themselves????? Talk about brainwash.noway