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Topic: screw obama
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Mon 02/25/08 09:54 PM




noblenan.....

You make a lot of sense. I agree that our priority is securing our borders first. Then let's go after the criminal element that are here illegally since it would be impossible to deport all the illegals.



Hey, here's a novel idea, how about going after the American companies that go to Mexico to recruit workers,? I dont how many of you have worked with undocumented aliens or even know one, but I have and I knew many that were promised jobs as long as the could cross the border "no questions asked"...
They come here because the work is here...take away the jobs and the wont come....
Its a well known fact that undocumented workers are hired by big business yet how many are busted every year for committing a crime??? ZERO...



symbelmyne,

Stop making sense!!!

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huh sense ??

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Mon 02/25/08 10:05 PM



noblenan.....

You make a lot of sense. I agree that our priority is securing our borders first. Then let's go after the criminal element that are here illegally since it would be impossible to deport all the illegals.



Hey, here's a novel idea, how about going after the American companies that go to Mexico to recruit workers,? I dont how many of you have worked with undocumented aliens or even know one, but I have and I knew many that were promised jobs as long as the could cross the border "no questions asked"...
They come here because the work is here...take away the jobs and the wont come....
Its a well known fact that undocumented workers are hired by big business yet how many are busted every year for committing a crime??? ZERO...



flowerforyou

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Tue 02/26/08 06:03 AM

I think several people missed my point back there. I am all against illegal aliens using our benefits and our system, etc.
the problem I had, was that a poster, I forget who now, stated specific numbers and statistics which were impossible for him/her to have had. Especially the one about illegal aliens on welfare. Yes we all know it is happening, and that they are using our system. But there are nos statistics on how many are doing so, as the government keeps it all hushed up and claims vehemently that illegal aliens do NOT receive benefits.

Now, i happen to think that in the case of women coming over to have babies on this side of the border should be turned away. period. And any child born on this side of the border should not automatically be a citizen with rights etc, unless his/her parents are here legally in the first place.

I also do not believe we should be providing schooling for all these kids from across the border, unless ours are being schooled first and foremost.

Now I know theres a couple people who are going to accuse me of discrimination, but you know what? It's not discriminatory to expect the laws to be followed by everybody. it is not discriminatory, to expect people to be turned away if they do not have the legal right to something. Is their situation worse than ors if they stay over there? Possibly, yes. But that does not mean we have the capabilities of taking them in and such.


That was me quoting the stats and yes I do have them and if you take the time to look them up you could have them too as they are a matter of public record. Published on government websites.

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Tue 02/26/08 06:14 AM
Its a well known fact that undocumented workers are hired by big business yet how many are busted every year for committing a crime??? ZERO...


symbel...

oh really..well I was an undocumented worker and was charged with grand theft auto and assaulting a US Marshal..(both charges dismissed) and while I was inside I met quite a few undocumented workers who were charged with criminal offenses so it appears you don't know what your talking about...noway

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Tue 02/26/08 06:22 AM

Its a well known fact that undocumented workers are hired by big business yet how many are busted every year for committing a crime??? ZERO...


symbel...

oh really..well I was an undocumented worker and was charged with grand theft auto and assaulting a US Marshal..(both charges dismissed) and while I was inside I met quite a few undocumented workers who were charged with criminal offenses so it appears you don't know what your talking about...noway


I believe she means that the number of companies (big business0 charged is zero.

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Tue 02/26/08 06:28 AM

Its a well known fact that undocumented workers are hired by big business yet how many are busted every year for committing a crime??? ZERO...


symbel...

oh really..well I was an undocumented worker and was charged with grand theft auto and assaulting a US Marshal..(both charges dismissed) and while I was inside I met quite a few undocumented workers who were charged with criminal offenses so it appears you don't know what your talking about...noway


I think the rum and cokes are starting to get to you...I was talking about the businesses that hire undocumented workers, even though its illegal and are never held accountable for their actions.
I lived in the southwest for 30 years, worked in the restaurant business for 15 (one of the largest employers of undocumented workers)..I know what Im talking about.
yawn

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Tue 02/26/08 06:30 AM
By the way Northen, shame on you for committing crimes in a foreign land...whats the matter, didnt they teach you any manners at home??
huh

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Tue 02/26/08 06:43 AM

By the way Northen, shame on you for committing crimes in a foreign land...whats the matter, didnt they teach you any manners at home??
huh


duh...if you read it you'll see that the charges were withdrawn..the car wasn't stolen and the Marshall was in plain clothes and hadn't identify himself when he grabbed me so I dropped him....it was at 2:30 am so when an unmarked car stops you at that time one tends to be a little careful...manners?...yes they were taught to me so after I dropped him with a left uppercut I said sorry when his partner drew his weapon...

but back to your post which you sidestepped...I guess you have to agree you didn't know what you were talking about huh...laugh

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Tue 02/26/08 06:46 AM
I never side-step, cant you see I have no legs..laugh

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Tue 02/26/08 06:52 AM

I never side-step, cant you see I have no legs..laugh



it appears you have no backbone either as you can't admit you posted something you have no knowledge of...aka bull$hit..

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Tue 02/26/08 06:55 AM
Edited by symbelmyne on Tue 02/26/08 06:56 AM
I leave that in the hands of public opinion, in case you havent noticed I dont put much stock in yours.

I dont want to hijack this post any longer, if you feel like you need to continue attacking me you are making a good effort on other threads.
yawn

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Tue 02/26/08 07:05 AM
if you feel like you need to continue attacking me you are making a good effort on other threads.
yawn


no effort is required....you do all yourself...

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Sat 03/01/08 06:44 AM
I am still waiting for him to say something of substance. What exactly is his plan? Or is he nothing more than catch phrases?

Anyone can have grand thoughts. Hell I think we should colonize the moon as a base to explore the galaxy. Do I have a plan to do so? No, its beyond my ability.

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Sat 03/01/08 07:33 AM


Its a well known fact that undocumented workers are hired by big business yet how many are busted every year for committing a crime??? ZERO...



symbelmyne,

Stop making sense!!!

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for comitting a crime, do some research on that please, there was a piece put out by some gov dept, to do with statistics ....


anyway the long and short of it was about crimes committed by illegals.
I remember that I was totally shocked and said NO WAY thats right, but there it was, i'll have to go and try to find it, there was one on there that said 26 people every day die in motor vehicle crashes involving illegals, there were a lot more, i'll check, but maybe you could to.

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Sat 03/01/08 08:22 AM
Edited by mnhiker on Sat 03/01/08 08:25 AM



Its a well known fact that undocumented workers are hired by big business yet how many are busted every year for committing a crime??? ZERO...



symbelmyne,

Stop making sense!!!

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh



for comitting a crime, do some research on that please, there was a piece put out by some gov dept, to do with statistics ....


anyway the long and short of it was about crimes committed by illegals.
I remember that I was totally shocked and said NO WAY thats right, but there it was, i'll have to go and try to find it, there was one on there that said 26 people every day die in motor vehicle crashes involving illegals, there were a lot more, i'll check, but maybe you could to.


Doc,

I think what symbelmyne meant is that no potential employers of illegals are being busted for hiring them.

The point I think she was trying to make is that these potential employers are complicit in luring illegals to this country, but do not face prosecution for doing so.

She probably should have worded it differently. :smile:

I don't know what the statistics are about numbers of people killed in car crashes by illegals, though.

It wouldn't surprise me if there are a lot.

http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp

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Sat 03/01/08 08:28 AM
Want me to post it again hiker???drinker bigsmile

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Sat 03/01/08 08:59 AM
Edited by mnhiker on Sat 03/01/08 09:00 AM

Want me to post it again hiker???drinker bigsmile


I must be missing something. I looked through this whole thread and could not find any post by you on this subject.

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Sat 03/01/08 09:02 AM
I think that thread was deleted when I was suspended!!!

You dont remember????

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Sat 03/01/08 09:03 AM
Once upon a Time.............laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 03/01/08 09:04 AM
I heard the moderators were bored
So I came back!!!laugh

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