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Topic: Pardoning yourself???? How did we miss this?
Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Mon 02/18/08 02:49 PM
George Bush Pardons Himself Against War Crimes In this 2006 video, the House of Representatives just passed President Bush's bill and the Senate was expected to do the the same thing. Buried deep inside the legislation is a provision that will pardon George Bush and all the members of his administration of any possible crimes connected with the torture and mistreatment of detainees dated all the way back to September 11, 2001. At least Richard Nixon had Gerald Ford do his dirty, Bush is trying to pardon himself. Note: The 109th congress did pass the bill - back when the GOP controlled both houses. Its not that Bush tricked them into anything, its that the GOP leadership rubber-stamped everything and anything he wanted them to. How the hell did we miss this one??????

werewolf_by_night_1 Joined Wed 12/26/07 Posts: 1667	Mon 02/18/08 02:50 PM


Gumbyvs Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 2417	Mon 02/18/08 02:52 PM
The same way we missed Clinton banging an intern in the white house.

Crockett Joined Sat 01/13/07 Posts: 234	Mon 02/18/08 02:54 PM
Sorry,,,,,, But I dont care if any detainees were mistreated because they were trying to kill Americans!

KennethP5206 Joined Wed 03/07/07 Posts: 2082	Mon 02/18/08 02:55 PM
The same way we missed Clinton banging an intern in the white house. Oh wait he never banged that woman, he never had sexual relations with that woman And I think everybody forgot about watergate

max711 Joined Sun 08/19/07 Posts: 1	Mon 02/18/08 02:56 PM Edited by max711 on Mon 02/18/08 02:57 PM
How do you know what the detainees were trying to do?

azrae1l Joined Sat 03/24/07 Posts: 3624	Mon 02/18/08 02:56 PM
theres a bill already in place from a century ago that says a president cannot pardon himself, it either takes the vice president after the president resigns as in nixon's case or an act of congress to pardon them. what your saying is he passed a bill which says that what happened wasn't his fault in the first place, which is wasn't but like every good leader knows he's only as good as the people who serve under him....

KennethP5206 Joined Wed 03/07/07 Posts: 2082	Mon 02/18/08 02:57 PM
The same way we missed Clinton banging an intern in the white house. Oh wait he never banged that woman, he never had sexual relations with that woman And I think everybody forgot about whitewater

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Mon 02/18/08 02:57 PM Edited by Dragoness on Mon 02/18/08 03:00 PM
The same way we missed Clinton banging an intern in the white house. We sure as hell did not miss that I never got so dam tired of hearing about a grown man's sex life in my life. I could not care less who the pres is having sex with as long as they are of age and consenting. So what are you talking about???? A president pardoning himself:?? A PRESIDENT PARDONING HIMSELF???!!!! A PRESIDENT PARDONING HIMSELF????!!!!! Even if he can't legally do it this way, WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT HIM AND HIS MOTIVES??????!!!!!

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Mon 02/18/08 02:59 PM
The administration took the stance that since terrorists aren't uniformed soldiers, they aren't covered by the Geneva Convention. Since the terrorists weren't covered by the Geneva convention, certain interrogation techniques (like waterboarding) were used on terrorist leaders to get time sensitive information. When the SCOTUS decided that terrorists were covered by the Geneva Convention (a very flawed ruling, since the Geneva Convention specifically states it only covers uniformed soliders) George Bush made this move to protect his administration and also members of the CIA and Military who had been involved in these interrogations. Take what you will from this, but the whole story should be known.

Gumbyvs Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 2417	Mon 02/18/08 02:59 PM
Whitewater was a nice joke too. Any non-connected person would have been in prison for years, for what the Clintons ripped off from the public.

KennethP5206 Joined Wed 03/07/07 Posts: 2082	Mon 02/18/08 03:01 PM
Also don't forget the fact that they also received donations from convicted drug and weapons dealers Clinton was practically endorsed by red China Coverup for our Russian Comrades as Well

soxfan94 Joined Mon 05/28/07 Posts: 3384	Mon 02/18/08 03:02 PM Edited by soxfan94 on Mon 02/18/08 03:10 PM
Is anyone verifying this? My internet is terrible at the moment...but I'll do it if need be because I don't think this is true one bit. Edit: Particularly for the fact that THE PRESIDENT CANNOT INTRODUCE OR ADD TO LEGISLATION Edit Edit: What a misstatement...the proper term was "white house-backed" bill. Not introduced by them.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Mon 02/18/08 03:03 PM
The administration took the stance that since terrorists aren't uniformed soldiers, they aren't covered by the Geneva Convention. Since the terrorists weren't covered by the Geneva convention, certain interrogation techniques (like waterboarding) were used on terrorist leaders to get time sensitive information. When the SCOTUS decided that terrorists were covered by the Geneva Convention (a very flawed ruling, since the Geneva Convention specifically states it only covers uniformed soliders) George Bush made this move to protect his administration and also members of the CIA and Military who had been involved in these interrogations. Take what you will from this, but the whole story should be known. Oh so that makes it so much better

KennethP5206 Joined Wed 03/07/07 Posts: 2082	Mon 02/18/08 03:03 PM
Whitewater was a nice joke too. Any non-connected person would have been in prison for years, for what the Clintons ripped off from the public. Right and remember them blaming Kenneth Star And then years later all the missing papers mysteriously reappered one day just laying on a table

Gumbyvs Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 2417	Mon 02/18/08 03:08 PM
The administration took the stance that since terrorists aren't uniformed soldiers, they aren't covered by the Geneva Convention. Since the terrorists weren't covered by the Geneva convention, certain interrogation techniques (like waterboarding) were used on terrorist leaders to get time sensitive information. When the SCOTUS decided that terrorists were covered by the Geneva Convention (a very flawed ruling, since the Geneva Convention specifically states it only covers uniformed soliders) George Bush made this move to protect his administration and also members of the CIA and Military who had been involved in these interrogations. Take what you will from this, but the whole story should be known. Oh so that makes it so much better Just like Clinton saying blow jobs weren't considered sex. You're trying to make sense of government, which makes no sense.

Gumbyvs Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 2417	Mon 02/18/08 03:09 PM
Hell, Ted Kennedy murdered a woman a few years back, and never spent a day prison. Political figures can do whatever they want, and most get away with it. I'm just amazed ANYone is amazed at anything coming outta that hole called DC.

KennethP5206 Joined Wed 03/07/07 Posts: 2082	Mon 02/18/08 03:10 PM
The administration took the stance that since terrorists aren't uniformed soldiers, they aren't covered by the Geneva Convention. Since the terrorists weren't covered by the Geneva convention, certain interrogation techniques (like waterboarding) were used on terrorist leaders to get time sensitive information. When the SCOTUS decided that terrorists were covered by the Geneva Convention (a very flawed ruling, since the Geneva Convention specifically states it only covers uniformed soliders) George Bush made this move to protect his administration and also members of the CIA and Military who had been involved in these interrogations. Take what you will from this, but the whole story should be known. Oh so that makes it so much better If Bush blew his nose you would *** because he used Charmin instead of Kleenex. It is this kind of bull that the terrorist feed off of. You feed their fire with all of this rhetoric bull**.

Donnar Joined Mon 09/17/07 Posts: 874	Mon 02/18/08 03:11 PM
"everybody" did not forget about watergate. Ford was never elected president because he pardoned Nixon. We were more angry at Nixon over Vietnam than watergate. Because Ford pardoned Nixon, we got Jimmy Carter for the USA's most backward president. He was a total embarassment. Not surprised that Bush slipped in a "safety" about not being held for war crimes. That should cover everything he has done as far as Iraq is concerned. He is a self rightous jackass, to say the very least!! It was his fault!! He wanted to go to war with Iraq so bad, that he made up total fabrications about weapons of mass destruction to make sure we did go to war. 8 yrs later we are still there!! Al Queda/the terrorists were in Afghanistan, not Iraq!! Thats the only place we had any business being after 9/11!! Pardons himself!! Pffft!!

KennethP5206 Joined Wed 03/07/07 Posts: 2082	Mon 02/18/08 03:13 PM
How about the Web Hubble hush money...anyone forget about that? The Clintons were the biggest crooks ever to be in office.