The nonsense and fear-mongering machine continues with its program: we are in code red.
Barely anyone in hospital with the virus. Deathrate is extremely low.
It's summer, doors are open (ventilation), people are outdoors a lot.
The whole thing is complete BS.
I suspect they're prepping us for another lockdown and facemask wearing for months on end.

And even if nrs were going up for real, which I do not believe for one second, then it's proof the poison they put into people doesn't work. Then why do it?

People are posting on social media about this nonsense propaganda, which is a good thing.

Vaccination is doing a great job in reducing the number of severe infections requiring hospitalisation .

If anyone has any concerns about vaccination would be happy to chat with you on this thread or in private .. but please do not hit on me ...my response may be brutal

hello again Calle ... many countries are at different stages with their vaccination rollouts . Only a few countries are close to having the required percent of population vaccinated to ensure herd immunity . Until that happens communities are still vulnerable . There are questions still to be answered on how effective the vaccines are against the variants causing concern .. in particular the delta variant . That is still being addressed .

you are welcome Jaish Hope you are staying well . Interest rates are at an all time low lol but unless you need a second fridge I would make do rather than borrow xox

It needs to be known that vaccination isn't the on;y way to achieve herd immunity. People who have been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 have immunity without receiving one of the vaccines.

From a John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health article:

If SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is like other coronaviruses that currently infect humans, we can expect that people who get infected will be immune for months to years. For example, population-based studies in places like Denmark have shown that an initial infection by SARS-CoV-2 is protective against repeat infection for more than six months.

As with any other infection, there are two ways to achieve herd immunity: A large proportion of the population either gets infected or gets a protective vaccine.

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I've been vaccinated so I'm far from being someone who is anti science/vaccination. Before getting the vaccine I did my OWN research by reading and listening to information (or in some cases what was presented as information) from various sources......including people who had been vaccinated. It's the reason I decided to receive the Pfizer vaccine rather than the Moderna (knew people who had bad side effects from the Moderna vaccine) or the J and J vaccine. People need to make inform decisions to make the correct choices for themselves. That means NOT doing what "experts" from the CDC, FDA or the WHO without question, and especially not bloviating media personalities or politicians who ACT like they know better than you what is best for your situation. Many of these experts declared unequivocally there was NO WAY that the COVID-19 originated in the Wuhan Lab when the pandemic started.....who are now saying it seems to be the most likely source.

Be an informed consumer of products including medicines......and the garbage some of the media and politicians try to feed you .

Hi John . I have mentioned this in a previous post .. yes people who have had a natural covid infection will have some degree of immunity but it is variable and depends on severity and strain of infection. Those with a mild illness likely only have limited immune protection and only against the stain they were exposed to . In contrast , the mRNA vaccine trains the immune system to respond to the presence of the covid spike protein ( which all coronavirus strains have) therefore will likely provide protection against a variety of covid strains . ... that is of course dependent on what changes the mutation has caused . A couple of the variants have shown they have changes which help them to avoid antibody protection , even so there is still some degree of immune protection offered by the mRNA vaccine .

If you consider a flu virus ...you can have the flu and will have some immunity against that strain only .. covid is likely to behave in a similar manner . ( seasonal vaccines or additional boosters may well be necessary ) . Time will tell .
Immunity against a natural viral infection in many cases is limited and certainly not lifelong . Some viruses have the ability to lay dormant in the body for long periods and reappear when immunity is lowered or resistance is weakened ) . Insufficient time Has passed yet to determine if covid has that potential . Some of the systemic damage covid causes can certainly result in long term complications .

Those who have had a natural covid infection are still encouraged to be vaccinated as this will give them a higher level of immune protection .

My friend died from covid in the early days of the pandemic. I had my shot and I feel healthier then before. I can't wait to get my second shot. If it makes me feel as good as the first time, I want it regularly. But all can still deny it. It leaves more for me and save the government more money. It may not be 100% effective but I rather take my chances with the vaccine. They are going to beg for the vaccine if they are dying. Then it would be too late.

Covid: Is UK now a breeding ground for new variants?

"Are we in the danger zone for creating new variants that could weaken the ability of vaccines to shield us from Covid? And does it matter?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57941574

It seems to me that no one is really certain what will happen with this virus, but we should know in the next few months whether we are winning or not, if not, it could mean more restrictions and a booster jab.

Your nonsense are killing people. My friend died of covid with no health issue and he is in his mid 20s. You should be a shame of yourself. Spreading garbage.

If you are referring to me? I would say that if you don't believe Coronavirus mutates in to other variants of the Coronavirus, you need only to look at the facts that we have already seen mutations in to new variants occur here in England, in India, and in South Africa, and it's entirely possible that we shall see even more variants emerge before this pandemic is over. The greater the number of infections the more chance of another mutation, no one yet knows which direction this virus will take in my opinion, only time will tell.

From a team led by UC Irvine (UCI) faculty Phil Felgner, Ph.D., professor of Physiology and Biophysics at UCI’s School of Medicine and director of UCI’s Vaccine Research and Development Center.

“The antibody responses induced by these vaccines can shoot up within days after administration suggesting that the vaccine may be useful as a treatment in people who are beginning to experience [COVID-like] symptoms.”

To say once infected "it would be too late" for a vaccine seems to be a non scientific based statement. SMH

They are still learning about the efficacy of natural immunity vs vaccines.
While it's being recommended by many healthcare professionals that people who have recovered from Covid-19 still get vaccinated it's really not known if it gives a "higher level of immune protection".

From the "At The Forefront U Chicago Medicine:

"With some viruses, such as chicken pox, being infected with the virus itself grants stronger immune protection than the chicken pox vaccine; however, in those cases, you then have to deal with all the complications of having the virus. When it comes to COVID-19, it’s really hard to know whether being exposed to the virus is more protective of future infection than the vaccine, simply because we don’t know the SARS-CoV-2 virus well enough yet."

They recommend getting the vaccine after being infected they ALSO admit it's UNKNOWN if "being exposed to the virus is more protective of future infection than the vaccine".

Fortunately I never got Covid-19 but if I had I might have chosen to get my antibodies levels checked before getting vaccinated. Luckily I didn't have to make that decision and I decided to get vaccinated based on my OWN research.

I was talking about the big foot believers. I didn't care if they wanted to kill themselves before but a couple of my relatives are also into these garbage. It put them at a high risk of dying. There should be laws against false information when people are dying from that information like some profession are responsible for what they say.

Could Covid vaccine be taken as a pill?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57553602?xtor=ES-208-[45684_NEWS_NLB_ACT_WK31_Mon_26_July]-20210726-[bbcnews_health_covid_pill]

"Right now, protection against Covid-19 comes via an injection. But in future, those vaccines could come from inhalers or even pills.
In a white, airy laboratory in Medicon Village, one of southern Sweden's largest science parks, chemist Ingemo Andersson holds up a thin, plastic inhaler, half the size of a matchbox.
Her team is hoping this tiny product could play a big role in the global fight against coronavirus allowing people to take powdered versions of future vaccines at home."

Although this is in development and maybe some years away, hopefully this will be another scientific breakthrough in the fight against Coronavirus, and other infectious diseases.

hello Mr Li so sorry for the loss of your friend . I hope you continue to stay safe .

it is best if you quote the post you are referring to . At the bottom of that post, press the quote key and then type your reply .

The demographics have certainly changed . Many people still associate covid with the elderly or those with comorbidities and while such populations remain at risk , now young healthy people are also susceptible . Covid does not discriminate . It certainly has the potential to become even more harmful .

Hi Duttoneer I can see the rationale for an inhaled medication as this would directly target the respiratory system . Look forward to future developments .

Unfortunately John , antibody testing only gives a snapshot of the immune response . Antibody levels do weaken over time . While antibodies ,( especially neutralising antibodies) are an important part of the immune response, the antibody test does not provide any indication of Killer T cell levels , which also have an important role . The ratio of antibody titres/ killer T cells can vary depending on how immunity was acquired (natural infection vs vaccination ) , age, gender , genetics etc .
Both antibodies and killer T cells are part of an immune response but they do have different roles
when it comes to fighting severe infection and determining how long immunity lasts .

Keep up the good work with your research

Covid in Sydney: Military deployed to help enforce lockdown

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-58021718

"But many have questioned whether the military intervention is necessary, calling it heavy-handed.

The lockdown - in place until at least 28 August - bars people from leaving their home except for essential exercise, shopping, caregiving and other reasons.

Despite five weeks of lockdown, infections in the nation's largest city continue to spread. Officials recorded 170 new cases on Friday.

Soldiers will join police in virus hotspots to ensure people are following the rules, which include a 10km (6.2 miles) travel limit.

State Police Minister David Elliott said it would help because a small minority of Sydneysiders thought "the rules didn't apply to them".

Covid19 ...The risk to younger people ... it is not just a question of whether you live or die ....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/125978447/how-seven-days-in-england-help-explain-the-covid19-risk-to-younger-people