Topic: government...bad? or good?
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Mon 01/07/08 03:28 AM
Edited by leahmarie on Mon 01/07/08 04:20 AM
mnhiker..... In reference to your query, although not directed at me, "What do you think, a Huckabee-McCain or McCain-Huckabee
ticket?"

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McCain is a RINO (republican in name only) -- no way would I vote for him. Huckabee is also a bit too liberal for me.

Hopefully, the country will never see either of the above on the ballot ticket.

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Mon 01/07/08 05:39 AM
mrtxstar & leahmarie,

Thanks for the responses.

I think it's a real possibility.

It would depend upon what happens
in New Hampshire and elsewhere,
as well as the candidates getting
over the ego thing about not being
the frontrunner.

Another possibility is our Minnesota
Governor Tim Pawlently being picked
by McCain as his Vice Presidential nominee.

I don't think Mitt Romney will play
second fiddle to anyone.

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Mon 01/07/08 08:03 AM
mnhiker..... Although I do not want it to become a reality, I think you are more than right when you say it is a real possibility.

Candidates getting over the ego thing?!
Are you crazy? laugh I love your sense of humour!

Whoops! I am not supposed to get personal. Sorry about that!

Tell me something about Tim Pawlently. I have not heard anything about him. What I mean is why do you think he could be picked as McCain's VP? Is he to the left, moderate, or right?

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Mon 01/07/08 09:59 AM


What do you think,
a Huckabee-McCain
or McCain-Huckabee
ticket?


I'll have to do may homework and get back to you. I won't rule is out either way until then.


I'm still doing my homework but I think McCain is the finest liberal canidate out there. He has sworn he would get Bin Laden. His strategy in Iraq is the one we have adopted now. I know he would be strong on national defence. However, I don't agree with the immigration bill he and Feinstein tried to push on us. I want us to secure the border and crack down on the number one incentive for illegal immigration, which is illegal employment. What I don't want is amnesty. But I also know there is no candidate that's going to give me everything I want. So I guess the real question know is where to I compromise? National defence is most important to me so that's off the table. And that's where I am in my homework.


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Mon 01/07/08 06:17 PM
Yes, immigration is a contentious issue.

Everyone has an idea on how to fix it
but many of those ideas just aren't
realistic.

I think the border needs to be more
secure but am unsure how we're going
to do it, since illegals are sure to
find ways around almost any deterrent.

I believe in a grace period where
illegals can come forth to be identified.

Then, they will need to undergo background
checks, and if they don't pass or have
felonies on their record, they immediately
are deported back to their countries of origin.

If they pass, they will be allowed to pay
a fine for illegally entering this country
and, if they want to become citizens, they
go to the back of the line for naturalization.

For those that want to work here but
do not want to become citizens, they
can obtain tamper-proof temporary
work visas that cannot be counterfeited.

I'm thinking there could be a hologram
imprinted in these, much like on a
Visa credit card.

They will eventually have to return
to their countries of origin once
the temporary visa expire.

If you think that's amnesty, so be it.

I don't.

The main problem is we can't identify
the illegals if we don't allow them
the means to come forward.

Also, I believe in stiff fines and
possibly jail time for any employer
who knowingly hires an illegal immigrant,
or does not require proper identification.

Allowances can be made for those
who thought, in good faith, proper IDs
were obtained, but were fooled by
counterfeit IDs.

I believe that part of the national
defense is being able to identify
who is in this country illegally.

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Mon 01/07/08 06:30 PM
leahmarie,

Tim Pawlently is the popular
Governor of Minnesota.

Although I'm not real fond of him,
that's the status quo of the majority
of the people in Minnesota.

As for why I think he could be
picked as McCain's VP?

Only because he is co-chair of McCain's
presidential committee and is campaigning
for him in New Hampshire.

McCain still could choose someone else,
but I think Tim Pawlently would be at
the top of his list.

As for if he's left, right, or
moderate, that's a good question.

Probably moderate.

You decide.

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2003/08/11_khoom_rturnpawlenty/


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Mon 01/07/08 06:59 PM
mnhiker...
Once again you have proven to be a font of knowledge. Thanks for the info. :smile:

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Mon 01/07/08 07:01 PM
You're welcome.

I'm not as good at
data mining the internet
as some, but I try. :smile:

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Mon 01/07/08 10:02 PM
mnhiker.....

Thanks for the info on Tim Pawlently. I wasn't aware he is part of McCain's campaign committee.

The only name I am familiar with is Hillary's campaign manager and that is because she is blaming him for her third place showing in Iowa. Consequently, his name is being tossed about.

Did you see Hillary "crying" on tv today? FOX did a poll of about a dozen people in re Hillary's crying --- mixed reactions -- some claimed she was sincere, some said it was a put on, and some said she lost it and was trying to regain her composure. I suppose it is only fair to give her crying equal time, after all the air time they gave that cackle of hers. Whoops, there I go again with the mud slinging --- cackle --meaning laugh. bigsmile

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Mon 01/07/08 10:31 PM
No, it's definitely a cackle.

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Mon 01/07/08 10:33 PM
I defer to your judgment -- cackle it is!

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Mon 01/07/08 10:35 PM
:smile:

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Tue 01/08/08 07:06 AM
Since we are throwing everyone into the mix, let's get back to Hillary and Bill. I heard something on MSNBC, whose news casters are for Hillary. A panel (four) were criticizing Bill Clinton and said he is hurting her with some of the stupid things he is saying. Stupid is the word the panel used --- it seems Bill made the statement that if you want a president, Hillary can do the job. Also, Hillary can't change, she cannot make herself younger or taller. All four on the panel made remarks to the effect that they do not get what Bill is saying. Neither do I. Is Bill getting a little goofy or can it be that he doesn't want Hillary to be president?

What do you guys think about the comments and my thinking about Bill?

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Tue 01/08/08 09:24 AM
I think Bill knows Hillary can not beat Obama. As much as I detest the man, he is not dumb. Obama will win at the Democratic Nomination Convention and the Clinton era will be over. And then the Clintons will have no need for each other and get divorced.

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Wed 01/09/08 08:57 PM
Hillary must have gotten
the sympathy vote in
New Hampshire since
she won there over
Obama.

I'm not sure who
will eventually
win the Democratic
nomination.

At this point,
all bets are off.

If Obama doesn't
come up with some
smoking gun on
Hillary
(or vice versa)
anything can happen.

I think that even
if Obama eventually
becomes President
he'll put Hillary
in some cabinet
post or name her
ambassador to
some country
(Maybe Tajikistan
or something
equally remote).

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Wed 01/09/08 09:02 PM
An astute point. Would Hillary do the same for Obama?

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Wed 01/09/08 09:05 PM
No. She'd appoint
Bill as special
ambassador to
a country far,
far away.

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Wed 01/09/08 09:34 PM
sad true, so truesad

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Wed 01/09/08 09:37 PM
Yup, that's
how she won
New Hampshire.

Think it will
work for her
again?

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Wed 01/09/08 09:41 PM
Not in the national race.