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Topic: Would you time travel with no return ?
notbeold's photo
Sun 04/14/19 04:52 AM
If you had the chance to go one way in time, and never return to now, when would you want to be at, and what would you take with you ?

I'd get medically fit, top dental, cut appendix and other problematic bits, same as astronauts, and travel back - way back - about 100,000 to 150,000 years ago; early modern humans - Homo sapiens sapiens; Cro-Magnon, and Neanderthal; and maybe Denisovian.

Taking early herbal pharmacopia books, survival books, small steel tools, first aid chest, basic chemicals like sulfur, saltpetre, salt, alum, and heaps of DEET.

The air would be clean (but full of bitey insects etc), the waters would be mostly clean, no dinosaurs, but plenty of other dangers large and small.

I'd (probably) be the weakest but smartest man on the planet, and be able to set up my own civilisation with the people already there, because I would be an 'all knowing' 'god', compared to early simple humans. The President of the World ! Ha !
Or they might just spear me instead.

Rock's photo
Sun 04/14/19 05:15 AM
Rather forward, or back...
I'd follow the Army of Darkness / S-Mart model..

I'd be takin' my boom sticks with me.

bigsmile


Greenerpastures's photo
Sun 04/14/19 05:48 AM
nope, I like going home biggrin

mysticalview21's photo
Sun 04/14/19 05:52 AM
know I would not ... to many people I love ... and could not be with ...


unless I could take them all laugh but one has already said know to something like that ... laugh guess I am not going :>)

Freebird Deluxe's photo
Sun 04/14/19 06:03 AM
I would go about 100 years into the future,by this time the UK government might just have completed Brexit

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sun 04/14/19 10:46 AM
I am already traveling thru time one way non-stop.

The way I think about time is that every moment we are aware of, is the past.
If you think about the speed of light and the speed of senses to brain/brain processing, everything that we can sense is happening in the past. There is no 'now'. At least not that we can actually sense as it happens.
Its like sound at a distance. At a distance, a man strikes a metal plate. We see the man strike the plate but it takes a bit of time for the sound to reach our ears.
Likewise, the sunshine that reaches Earth is about 7 minutes old.
Everything you see, unless it is a direct source of light immediately at your eye takes time for the photons to strike an object and be reflected to our eyes. We see colors and hues because light strikes an object and refracts to absorb or reflect different parts of the spectrum. Those different colors move at different speeds, slower or faster from infrared to ultraviolet. If it didn't, everything would be pitch black (absence of light) or brilliant radiance (presence of all spectrum of light at the same time). Black is not a color, its the absence of light. White is not a color it is the presence of all light.
Then it takes time for that photo sensor (eye) to register the light and more time for that sense (impulse) to travel to the brain. Then the brain has to decipher that input signal to register it as light and tell the rest of the brain it is light.
We only sense the past.
Likewise, an artificial detector that registers light also detects the past in much the same way.

As for the future, we use our experience of the past in the present to effect the future.
The future can be over-ridden by many things so it can never be a sure thing. The only thing that is an absolute is the past.

I also think what we call the present (not the 'now') is a series of 'static states' that have an extremely short duration. Our brains put those static states together as a "Flow of Time" we call the present. At any given change there is potential for tangents but since we anticipate the next state change, it requires a tangent change that prevails before we realize a change has happened. Our brains are so 'tuned' that those changes in states appear to us as an ever-changing present.

Its more than a lifetime series of photos because it encompasses all our senses, not just sight.
Think a sensory display playing at a few quadrillion frames per second.

At carnivals, they used to have a machine that used static images to produce movement. The movement we detect when we turn the drum is an illusion our eye creates from those individual images. Now, think if you could do the same with all senses. That's what our brains do. That's what we detect as time passage.

Perspective is nearly always a consideration of assessing the past.
Viewing the past in the 'now' is not a choice.
The 'now' requires events to pass before they can be assessed.
To view events in actual 'real-time' would require the ability to observe AND process events as they are happening.
This might seem like what we do but in actuality, the real-time events we observe and process are already established events.
The light we see from a light bulb turning on has already happened by the time we see the light.
The light from the Sun has already erupted/radiated from the Sun about 7 minutes before we see it.
The issue is not the amount of light but the time delay between initiation and reception and processing.
In the case of the light from the Sun, there are many things that can occur between the time it leaves the Sun and it reaches our eyes and is processed as light by our brains.
In the reference of a light bulb, the duration is shorter but there is still duration.
That duration establishes the past.

The past has already happened, the present is happening now but is only perceived after the fact and the future is a projection of present events that could occur based on our own perception and evaluation of the past which we experience.
The future is dependent on the past.

Liz's photo
Sun 04/14/19 11:32 AM
Nope. I'm already on the last leg of this lifetime and looking forward to heaven someday as I believe in God. In the meantime, I'm enjoying seven young grandchildren and one on the way.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Sun 04/14/19 12:27 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Sun 04/14/19 12:27 PM
And never see my kids again? No way!
I also chose before incarnating to be here in this special time, the transitioning from the age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius. I'm not going to walk out on what I chose! I kind of like it and like being part of it all :)
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Sun 04/14/19 12:31 PM
Would you time travel with no return ?

Sure.

when would you want to be at, and what would you take with you ?

I would travel back to close to when I was born. I would befriend myself and family and act as mentor, conscience, and financial advisor. Help build a massive family legacy.






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Sun 04/14/19 12:36 PM

And never see my kids again? No way!
I also chose before incarnating to be here in this special time, the transitioning from the age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius. I'm not going to walk out on what I chose! I kind of like it and like being part of it all :)
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:thumbsup: I agree with Crystal. I wouldn't want to never see my sons again or miss out on transitioning into the Age of Aquarius. I chose to be here for a reason so I'm staying!

Seakolony's photo
Sun 04/14/19 12:37 PM
As long as I know my destination beforehand.

no photo
Sun 04/14/19 06:33 PM
I was thinking of the old west of America, like 1850's. It might be good for men, but a bad time for women. I'd go to the future about 50 to 100 years. There has to be a good change.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/14/19 06:56 PM
Good question. Every era had its ups and downs. I like the 'family values' and styles of the 60s, but not the legal bigotry and segregation. I think the time where people didnt seem so shallow and self centered and were trying to be just with each other, the 70s, would be a cool time to return to. Even the styles and music were enjoyable, and people were still SOMEWHAT promoting the idea of family and community and accepting of different roles within those units.



ivegotthegirth's photo
Sun 04/14/19 09:40 PM

Good question. Every era had its ups and downs. I like the 'family values' and styles of the 60s, but not the legal bigotry and segregation. I think the time where people didnt seem so shallow and self centered and were trying to be just with each other, the 70s, would be a cool time to return to. Even the styles and music were enjoyable, and people were still SOMEWHAT promoting the idea of family and community and accepting of different roles within those units.





Yes the '70's were great for the most part. In 1970 I was 14 so everyday I watched Eddie from 2 blocks down the street and Jim from the gas station being drafted and heading to Vietnam and every night I watched Walter and Eric read us the tolls, when you're 16 and a junior in high school and watching this daily as it continues on and on it seems like it's obvious that you're going to southeast Asia in a couple of years. I've thanked God many times that I wasn't just 2 or 3 tears older but the music was great! So great I have to wonder if it will ever be equaled. It certainly won't be by the likes of the sorry and lame garbage that passes for music now.
I still have my draft card from back then and when I see it the whole decade flashes in my mind; Vietnam, dope, sex, the fast cars, the great music, the premature deaths of some of our heroes and the fun. Then at the end of the decade we faced another horror and the start of the downward spiral of the great music! It was called disco! The forerunner of the mindless and soul less repetitive sounds called music today. So here's to the '70's, all you were and all we were. Even with the bad times I'd live it all again... drinker

ivegotthegirth's photo
Sun 04/14/19 09:40 PM

Good question. Every era had its ups and downs. I like the 'family values' and styles of the 60s, but not the legal bigotry and segregation. I think the time where people didnt seem so shallow and self centered and were trying to be just with each other, the 70s, would be a cool time to return to. Even the styles and music were enjoyable, and people were still SOMEWHAT promoting the idea of family and community and accepting of different roles within those units.





Yes the '70's were great for the most part. In 1970 I was 14 so everyday I watched Eddie from 2 blocks down the street and Jim from the gas station being drafted and heading to Vietnam and every night I watched Walter and Eric read us the tolls, when you're 16 and a junior in high school and watching this daily as it continues on and on it seems like it's obvious that you're going to southeast Asia in a couple of years. I've thanked God many times that I wasn't just 2 or 3 tears older but the music was great! So great I have to wonder if it will ever be equaled. It certainly won't be by the likes of the sorry and lame garbage that passes for music now.
I still have my draft card from back then and when I see it the whole decade flashes in my mind; Vietnam, dope, sex, the fast cars, the great music, the premature deaths of some of our heroes and the fun. Then at the end of the decade we faced another horror and the start of the downward spiral of the great music! It was called disco! The forerunner of the mindless and soul less repetitive sounds called music today. So here's to the '70's, all you were and all we were. Even with the bad times I'd live it all again... drinker

notbeold's photo
Mon 04/15/19 06:25 AM
Hear hear, I just wish I knew back then what I know now.
Right on with the music too. douff douff sucks

notbeold's photo
Sat 04/20/19 04:02 AM
If I was devious and greedy, I could gather all the stock market and horse racing results for the last 10 years, and go back 10 years and two weeks, and start studying the forms.
And also bet on the other stuff like ball games, royal names, boxing, and heaps more.

And I liked the story in the original book 'The Time Machine', different to the movie, except he returned.

no photo
Sat 04/20/19 04:30 AM
A very difficult question, this one. I could go back to when I was small, but with the knowlledge I have today, advising my present self on things I did that were not so good after all. That would make my present life so much better....... I think!

On the other hand I could travel a thousand years into the future and discover what scientists will know at that point in time. Of course, I risk arriving at a planet on which I can't live after a nuclear World War......

Assuming I'm not allowed to take a least one friend with me, I know I would be lonely trying to make new friends. No, I don't think I would take this option, but I just might if in travelling I could 'observe' before I land. If I could take a friend or three with me in the time machine, I would keep travelling to the future, observing what is happening, and might well land if I find that the world has indeed become a more civilsed place, no weapons needed, everyone nice to each other. Think what progress could be made if us humans stopped spending money on weapons!

Sadly, I am a pessimist and think that the world is going to get worse and will never get to that better state. My guess for our future is not optimistic, so nice though it would be I couldn't accept a one-way ticket.

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 04/20/19 09:11 AM
I'm with Tom4uhere on this, overall. We're already traveling through time with no ability to return.

An additional observation about that...lots of people aren't conscious of it, but they actually DO have in the back of their mind, that they can go back in time and start over on things.

In a real way, when people mess up, and try to use an apology and a vow to get the other person to forgive them, they are often hopping to actually go back in time to before their mistake, and start again. No one can actually do that, hence many people end up complaining that their now ex partner refused to "forgive" them.

On another aspect of this, since I've both studied history AND occasionally participated directly in historically recorded events, I know all too well, that MANY seemingly fabulous eras of the past, were no where near as idyllic as they are portrayed.

I personally lived through the 1950's. It SEEMED okay, except that the censorship of the entire society was so deep, that reality was never dealt with by anyone.

I lived through the sixties as well. Lots of consciousness raising and exploration of mores and overturning of the censorships, but also tremendous strife, and the initiation of the negative forces that would show up to plague us all later.

The seventies were awful for me. Films were all about how terrible all our leading people really were, and how life just wasn't worth living. Until Star Wars and Rocky 2 came out towards the end of all that, the US society appeared to be eating itself just for fun.

The eighties saw the real beginnings of the "lets go back to pretending everything is really fine, whether it is or not" movement that is still dragging the country down.

And so on.

So I'd never want to have to go through any of that again.

Further back in the past, I would need to be empowered to be instantly made a particular powerful person, as WELL as retaining my knowledge. No good going back to the golden age of Greece as a slave.

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Sat 04/20/19 04:31 PM
I you could go back in time I think it is essential that you are in the well-off category of people, if not a king, then at least a very successful businessman.

Or just an 'observer of society' with enough independent means (i.e. cash) that nobody interferes with your observations of society.

But I'd still refuse the offer, albeit reluctantly!

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