Something I discovered on my own about all this, is that wisdom heard or read, and then only memorized and recited, is often wisdom lost or excitedly overlooked.

Wow, that's deep Igor.
I'm curious if my OP is wisdom or rational thought?
Is there a difference between wisdom and rational thought?
In other words, does wisdom automatically mean rational?

Well as usual, there always needs to be a caveat that some people use the word "wisdom" to refer to things other than what other people mean by it.

In my own sense of it, the difference between knowledge of facts and processes, and actual wisdom, is one of LEVELS OF PERCEPTION AND UNDERSTANDING, as opposed to AMOUNTS of information.

"Rational" does mean something like "mechanically logical." I would say that all WISDOM is rational, or at least depends on rationality, but that not all rationality results in wise insight. I think it's necessary to use logic and rational thought to explore any area of life, in order to build toward achieving wisdom.

Most of what I'e read in things like the Bible, are part of a serious and very positively intended effort to convey wisdom, and to help people achieve wisdom more quickly, by spelling out results and conclusions through various means.

The biggest tricky thing about trying to convey wisdom, is that in order for someone to really understand anything pervasively enough to have any sense of independent wisdom, is the same problem all parents have, trying to teach their children to learn how to stay safe in the world.

A list of "do's and don'ts" is a quick way to very crudely effect a very basic form of safety, but if children are to learn to work out how to stay safe in the great dynamic confusion and new-every-minute that is the real world, they must understand, often at a visceral level, WHY trying to stay safe is a good idea, as well as HOW to build and update their OWN list of "do's and don'ts."

In a very general way, it is WISE to EXPLORE and APPLY knowledge. Not just memorize it. Where things get really fun, is that more often than many people realize, real wisdom is only achieved, when the person recognizes that all of what they have learned about themselves and others, means that they DON'T have to try to get the other people to change, and that understanding how and why they are different, is enough.

That's like asking a maths teacher to explain to you where the missing pound went. They just say your figuring it out out wrong, that it isn't really missing. Even though you know, that it is, and that they're lieing.
You know the missing pound right?

3 brothers, walking down the street. They walk past a shop, with a telly in the window. They want a telly, so they ask how much?
£30 says the guy in the shop. So each brother gives him a £10 note.
5 minutes later, the owner of the shop returns. Where's my telly, he says. I sold it says the assistant. How much for? Says the owner. £30 says the assistant. Well, says the owner, I only wanted £25, so take these 5 pound coins, chase after them, and give them their change.
So the assistant, catches up with them, and explains that they have change.
He gives each brother a pound coin. And keeps £2 for himself, in his back pocket

So, each brother gave a £10 note, and each brother got £1 back. So each brother paid £9. 3 times £9 is £27. And the assistant kept £2. £27 plus £2 is £29

So, where's the pound gone?

Magik numbers, forbidden fruits, words not allowed to be spoken

That's like asking a maths teacher to explain to you where the missing pound went. They just say your figuring it out out wrong, that it isn't really missing. Even though you know, that it is, and that they're lieing.
You know the missing pound right?

3 brothers, walking down the street. They walk past a shop, with a telly in the window. They want a telly, so they ask how much?
£30 says the guy in the shop. So each brother gives him a £10 note.
5 minutes later, the owner of the shop returns. Where's my telly, he says. I sold it says the assistant. How much for? Says the owner. £30 says the assistant. Well, says the owner, I only wanted £25, so take these 5 pound coins, chase after them, and give them their change.
So the assistant, catches up with them, and explains that they have change.
He gives each brother a pound coin. And keeps £2 for himself, in his back pocket

So, each brother gave a £10 note, and each brother got £1 back. So each brother paid £9. 3 times £9 is £27. And the assistant kept £2. £27 plus £2 is £29

So, where's the pound gone?

Magik numbers, forbidden fruits, words not allowed to be spoken

There is one truth and many religions. There are different theologies for language and making sense of information, different denominations for mere worship preferences, and different churches of people who actually engage with each other. Anything anyone says can make everyone more aware of God, though it may scare them or be disruptive to them. It is most effectively undetstood if it is interpreted in the context that it was written and with regard to the personality of the writer. Observe in this post, for example, I am slightly evangelical, I did not join a religious community until college, and I hardly even knew about it and was not forced into it when I was growing up.

For those who do not believe, or feel like they need to fight against other people’s beliefs in order to maintain their own, God forgives. His love is amazingly steadfast and is there to be accepted. And whether one wins or loses an argument does not determine whether God likes them more or less.

Eve broke that agreement with God when she partook from the fruit of knowledge.
The first sin. Right?
My question is why was the tree with the fruit of knowledge even there if man was not supposed to take sustenance of it?

Consider this:
I as a lowly man, know if I do not want my children playing with something, I put it out of their reach.
It only makes sense, right?
Wouldn't a God have a higher understanding?
Why was the tree with the fruit of knowledge even available if it was not meant to be found?
We are talkin bout God here, not yer average human being.
Maybe I'm missing something?

It just only makes sense if you don't want yer kids playing with something ya don't put it where they can get to it.

Consider this, Perhaps man was intended to partake in the fruit of knowledge and is intended to use that knowledge in a quest to reach a desired level of understanding?

If that is the intention, where is the sin?
How do we know when we have reached the intended target?

Perhaps the tree of knowledge we have been warned about is not a sin but a way to find grace in the eyes of our creator?

What if we are expected to become more than what we are now?
What if the whole purpose of life is to achieve an understanding that is currently unknown to us?
What if we are still in learning mode?

There are PEOPLE that would like you to believe you are a sinner.
There are people that want you to believe the end is upon us.
What if we are only a fraction of the way we are supposed to go?
How could you know?

Is that man that tells you he is holy to actually be believed?
Is the scripture intended as the single most word on the will of the creator or is it a transcript of how man has interpreted its meaning?

Where do you draw the line?
At what point do YOU try to interpret the mind of God?
What gives you the authority?

Consider this:
Humanity has in effect, proliferated to 6.8 billion souls.
Is there any reason why a God would want this?
Unless we haven't reached the point God intended us to be?
I mean, we're talking about God right, not a politician.

A God that put all of existence into reality.
Created the heavens and the Earth.
A God that is able to create everything from nothing.
This God, able to do all that, MUST be able to govern its own creation.
If not, Is it really God?
As it is, reality, I have a lot of trouble with some of the ideas that make up the foundation of my belief.

Sadly, I watched a film tonight that tried to suggest that we are at the limits of God's intentions. (Summerland Project aka Amelia 2.0)
The issue I have is not with the statement but with the implication.
How could any man know the actual will of God?
Why should we believe any man that claims to know to will of God?

At what point do we draw the line?
How can we ever know the actual word of God?
Perhaps, we were never meant to?
Perhaps, we are only supposed to know the word of man?
Perhaps, we are only intended to know what we need to know to advance to a level at which God has originally intended.
Perhaps when we reach that level of understanding, God will no longer be a question?
Who really knows?

It's still a stupid premise and a stupid thing to do.
If you stick a bunch of kids in a room, with a big red button, and say, whatever you do, don't push that button. What do you think is going to happen?
Not only that, it's a negative suggestion. If somebody is walking a tight rope, and you say, don't look down. There impulse, is to look down. So instead, you give a positive affirmation, and say look straight ahead.
And furthermore, it is perfectly clear, that the whole thing, is just an allegory regarding magik. And there to keep us dumb, and to remind us, your only allowed certain knowledge if you can pass through certain doors. Which we will keep a tight hold on, and only let you pass, if we say, you can pass. The whole thing is complete and utter ********.
Not only that it clearly rips off many other religions. Some of which are, far, far older.
And sacrificing your own son for others ill deeds, or getting somebody else to sacrifice theirs as some sort of moral test of faith, well, you don't have to be a genius, to figure out, that they're hardly benevolent.
Once you've blindly accepted that premise, then frankly, what won't you accept. You'll accept anything, you already have

If the kids don't push that button, I feel sorry for them.
And you make no mention of magik or sacrificing your own child as some ridiculous test of faith.
Which my post somewhat hinged on