Thats a whole new subject =)... The bible has alot of knowledge in it.. "money is the root of all evil"

Oil- money. Look at the destruction it has caused. Never mind we are liberating the country so this is not true

Lol i wasnt suppose to go there

So...Jet me get this straight...Because a butterfly flaps it's wings, or a perfectly healthy man "takes a breath", that's suppose to be "proof" of the bible? That "jesus h christ" is your god and master?


First of all...That's asinine. Secondly, why does it have to be YOUR god? Couldn't budda have done it as easily? Of ANY of the other countless gods there are?

..Why to ignorant people living in trailer parks feel the have ALL the answers..But science is dead wrong?

EGO?

Hey thanks voicing your rather stero-typical, judgemental opinion but its ok. i dont live in a trailer park

Judging you by your picture..I would say you have a distorted outlook on things:)

i think he clearly missed the 5 pages of conversation we have been having..

You don't say, LOL

<--- i would say maybe thats what someone was?

If a bunch of birds one year have to live mostly on hard nuts, the birds with bigger stronger beaks are more likely to survive and pass on that trait. Next year if all the nuts are almost gone and the birds have to work on getting bugs out of the ground now thin long beaks are more likely to survive and pass on that trait.
Neither nuts or bugs is better they are just different food source. Evolution is all about surviving in your environment. To think in terms of good or bad is taking you down a dark road.

Agreed, But how come are beaks are getting shorter? Backwards-evolution.

This thread is a perfect example of "cascade thinking". The OP probably has heard about how Christians attack atheists / agnostics, so his original post was meant to offer his beliefs and attract attacks from Christians. Is anyone surprised that Christians aren't attacking this guy? I would guess that some of you are, because you have been exposed to cascade thinking about the behavior of Christians. This is a good reason why everyone should keep an open mind about people of other faiths.

who are you refering to?

Anyone who assumes that Christians are waiting with bated breath for someone who isn't a Christian to post, so that we can pounce on them.

ahh yes , very true in what you have said, i know from experience.

i agree with you on one thing and that's about the Catholics.

sorry people but i don't like Catholics,there's things in their beliefs that i don't understand,like the confession thing,why confess to a priest?do they think God can't hear you?you don't need a middle man when talking to God.2,Catholics seem to think they're the only ones going to heaven,where did they get this idea at?

I believe in the jug of milk.

I am agnostic also .
I have never felt God's presence in my life . I was raised in a strict Pentacostal household . We attended church everytime the doors were open . I witnessed many things and what some would call "miracles" . I saw prophets speaking in tongues , snake handlers , people holding hot coals in there hands and not being burned , healings .
When I was 12 my Grandmother (who was very much like my Mother) died suddenly and I was heart broken . I prayed for God to show his presence to me . I devoted myself to the church hoping that this God I had been taught about would heal my heart . For 3 years I prayed and nothing happened so I suppose I became mad at God . For 2 more years I felt I was lost and wandering in the dark .
Now I have faith but it is not in God . I have faith in myself and in others . I have faith in nature . Science cannot prove to me that God exists or otherwise that he does not exist .
I have trouble explaining my beliefs so I have done alot of research . The below is a copy and paste from some of my research that explains my Agnostic beliefs .

"Agnosticism (from the Greek a, meaning "without" and gnosis, "knowledge", translating to unknowable) is the philosophical view that the truth value of certain claims—particularly theological claims regarding metaphysics, afterlife or the existence of God, god(s), or deities—is unknown or (possibly) inherently unknowable.

Agnostics claim either that it is not possible to have absolute or certain knowledge or, alternatively, that while certainty may be possible, they personally have no knowledge. Agnosticism in both cases involves some form of skepticism.

Demographic research services normally list agnostics alongside categories such as atheist and non-religious, although this is misleading, since religious people can be agnostic (indicating a lack of absolute certainty, therefore treating their religion as a faith).

"Agnostic" was introduced by Thomas Henry Huxley in 1869 to describe his philosophy. The term agnostic is also used to describe those who do not absolutely commit themselves about the existence of deities as well as about other matters of religion.

Early Christian church leaders used the Greek word gnosis (knowledge) to describe "spiritual knowledge". Agnosticism is not to be confused with religious views opposing the doctrine of gnosis and Gnosticism— these are religious concepts that are not generally related to agnosticism.

Is there a supernatural power—an arbitrary mind—an enthroned God—a supreme will that sways the tides and currents of the world—to which all causes bow? I do not deny. I do not know—but I do not believe. I believe that the natural is supreme—that from the infinite chain no link can be lost or broken—that there is no supernatural power that can answer prayer—no power that worship can persuade or change—no power that cares for man.

I believe that with infinite arms Nature embraces the all—that there is no interference—no chance—that behind every event are the necessary and countless causes, and that beyond every event will be and must be the necessary and countless effects.

Is there a God? I do not know. Is man immortal? I do not know. One thing I do know, and that is, that neither hope, nor fear, belief, nor denial, can change the fact. It is as it is, and it will be as it must be.

We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know.

I do not think that there is a conclusive argument by which one can prove that there is not a God or otherwise that there is a God.

An agnostic thinks it impossible to know the truth in matters such as God and the future life with which Christianity and other religions are concerned. Or, if not impossible, at least impossible at the present time. "


This statement means very much to me .

We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know.

"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?"
-- Dan Barker